Well, I've ridden in trains with people who had their headphones turned up so loud that I could hear the music clearly four or five seats away. I confess, I found it very anoying. I can't imagine what it was doing to their hearing. -- Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <CMountainDave@aol.com> ... > As for radios with headphones, have at it. Why on earth would I object to > that??