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RE: [pct-l] Ray Jardine vs. Mad Monte
- Subject: RE: [pct-l] Ray Jardine vs. Mad Monte
- From: "Dude Spellings" <dude@coruscant.net>
- Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 19:34:53 -0700
I have never thru-hiked the PCT, which makes me no expert on what shoes it takes to do it. However, in 1998 I did hike from Lake Tahoe to Mt. Whitney. The first half, I used a bomb-proof pack and big leather hiking boots. Along the way, I met some thru-hikers with something like 14 lb packs that convinced my to try the Jardinian approach. So, in Yosemite, I swapped packes and shoes, and unloaded a ton from my pack. I got my pack down to 16 lb with no food or water. I would finish my journey in regular Asics running shoes.
I have to say that the lighter pack totally rocks!! I used an Osprey Aether that weighs 1 lb 9 oz. and has no frame. The running shoes killed my feet for the first few days, but after about 5 days, they got used to them. I have to agree with Monte on the snow, though. I would definitely prefer some boots on the snow. I almost slipped many times going over passes with lots of snow on them.
The nest time I do a long hike, I will probably use a light boot and will definitely use the lighter pack. In my opinion, Jardine is right about one thing: When you cut the wieght dramatically, you can go much further in a day... at least I did.
If anyone finds this useful, I will be surprised. But I thought I would throw it out there.
peace,
Dude in TX
>From: Montedodge@aol.com
>Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:03:21 EDT
>Subject: [pct-l] Ray Jardine vs. Mad Monte
>To: pct-l@edina.hack.net
>
> What does Monte and Ray both have in common?? We both carry an 8 lb pack!!!
>( Only mine is a totally empty Old Lowe Expedition that is strong enough to
>pack out a dead hiker if you could shove em in!!! ) The pack will still be
>around when I'm in the ground. Alot can be said about " reserve strength " of
>gear and boots. I do believe my old Lowe " which weighes slightly less than
>a carbonfiber Mountain bike " will outlast any golight pack around. I like
>Greg's theory on boots and tires and must agree totally with his view. The
>leather " Warhorse " boots of yesteryear had a certain cush when walking and
>did a super job of edging into frozen morning snow. A good leather job is
>equal to a good leather saddle, bike or horse, which when broken in fits like
>a glove. New ultralight type boots are "Cute" for limited use, but offer
>zippo protection in snow or 104 degree desert heat. Even many Jardinite "
>Wantabe's " suffered in their boots as bad as the " Throwbacks" of the 70's.
>The grocery store theory again comes into play as people come into the PCT in
>good shape, but feet are still ill prepared. I know my advice will be
>treasured by all and will instantly change hikers minds. Ha Ha Ha!!!! Mad
>Monte rides again!!!
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