[pct-l] Stove less

[Tim Crum]

Here is a new option for going stoveless, but still having hot meals.
Someone has improved on the concept of the MRE heater system to make a
portable silicon food heating system (Heater and reusable dish all in one)
https://newatlas.com/yabul-cook-flameless-camping-cooker/53004/

Tim Crum

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 7:38 AM, Gary Schenk <gary_schenk at verizon.net>
wrote:

>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
>
> I do not see how stove usage is evidence that "PCT hikers cannot be
> trusted with fire" and I still don't see how fire rings have anything
> to do with stoves.
>
> Also, as a resident of Southern California, who frequents the PCT year
> round, not just the thru-hiker season, I can assure you that the vast
> majority of the use the trail gets is not from thru-hikers, but from
> weekenders, hunters and day hikers. The proximity of Angeles NF to Los
> Angeles gives easy access city folks who have no clue about things
> like Leave No Trace, Fire Safety or even cleaning up their own
> garbage.
>
> The weekend after the opening of Deer Season here in San Diego
> country, much of the area around the PCT is littered with fire rings,
> spent shell casing, and empty beer cans. I avoid the backcountry on
> Opening Day. A person just can't wear enough orange to feel
> comfortable.
>
> While I support education, and "getting the word out," it will require
> outreach to the non-hiking population, not demeaning messages telling
> thru hikers that they can't be trusted with fire.
>
> IMHO.
> ************************************************************
> ***********************
>
> Brick, you are right, of course. But a lot of the fire rings I find are
> where PCTers camp. Most hunters don't even get out of their trucks! :-)
>
> There was a fellow on the trail a few years ago, forget his name, who was
> posting a journal. I removed a couple of his fire rings. All illegal. Even
> after putting a post on his journal guestbook suggesting that the fires
> were not cool, he kept on.
>
> There's a series of youtubes posted by a woman who thruhiked last year. I
> didn't view all of them, yet saw at least three illegal fires in the
> Angeles and Kings Canyon. Not to mention setting her tent up next to a
> small stream in the southern sections trampling riparian habitat. And she
> was an "expert."
>
> Most hikers can be trusted with fire, I agree, but as the trail population
> increases so does the number of those who can't.
>
> Which of course has nothing to do with a stove ban.
>
> Gary
>
>
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