[pct-l] Permit

[Scott Diamond]

This is well stated Brick. Personally I'm a little perplexed by the extreme
focus on stoves without a shutoff valve. For my alcohol stove I put in
18-24 grams of alcohol to boil water for my dinner. It doesn't generate
much more heat than a Sterno can. IMO it is very low risk. I think the
white gas stoves with a shutoff valve are far more hazardous. Am I the only
one to have gone to prime one of these stove and applied way more fuel than
I intended? Yikes!! I then have a flame about 2 feet high for a minute or
two until it consumes all the fuel. If I'm worried about starting fires by
accident I'd choose the alcohol stove every time. Butane stoves (e.g.
JetBoil) are very safe and I think one could make a good case for them
instead of fixating on a shutoff valve.

As Brick stated, lets all be careful out there.

     -Rover

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 12:17 PM, marmot marmot
> <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > . There is almost no place where a campfire is allowed.
>
> While this is somewhat true for the first 600 miles or so of the PCT
> (it is actually more complicated because each jurisdiction has their
> own rules, but "no campfires and only stoves with a shutoff valve" is
> the most restrictive, so that works for all of them) it is most
> certainly not true north of Kennedy Meadows (South). I am speaking
> about the legal aspects of a campfire, not the ethical aspects. That
> is a different question.
>
> But as Smokey Bear says: "only you can prevent forest fires," so lets
> all be careful out there, even with our camp stoves with shutoff
> valves.
>
> You can get your free "California Fire Permit"  here:
> http://www.preventwildfireca.org/Campfire-Permit/
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