[pct-l] Sleeping Bag recommendations

[Melanie Clarke]

First of all, I want to applaud you for a strong desire to purchase
ethically produced animal products.  However, please be aware that there is
a tremendous amount of deceptive "legalese" with, well, many consumer
products including animal products.  This "Meat Processing Facility", most
likely includes food for dogs, cats and other pets as well as humans.
After harvesting down from alive screaming geese for the life of a goose,
it is then, most likely, sold for dog food.  Therefore, you are still
supporting this cruel industry. Please don't allow yourself to be deceived!

Has anyone met anyone who has even eaten a goose?  Eating a goose in
America is a rare event.  There are no restaurants that I know of that sell
them.  They are not in any grocery store.  I had some European Foreign
Exchange Students when my children were in High School. They told me that
Europeans do not eat as much beef as Americans and they eat more "lamb".
I've never known Europeans to eat geese. Two of my daughters have been in
Europe, Iceland etc.  They never talked about the geese served in Europe.
People in China eat a lot of duck, pork, chicken but I've never heard of a
large goose consumption.

Meanwhile, the world is generating millions of tons of down for billions of
down products.  With all the down products, everyone in the world would
have had to consume 10-20 geese to harvest that much down.

Many labels with "Humane meat", "Cage Free Eggs" even "Organic" have been
exposed as fraud or "deceptive legalese".  I'm sure this place in Europe is
completely certified from dead animals.  However, this is after a lifetime
of cruelty!  The number of yearlings sold for human consumption, who have
never had their down plucked live; is a small, small small percentage of
their "meat industry"!  If this company only sold down from "virgin" geese;
you would not have enough product to fill your orders.  The price would be
astronomical!

PLEASE DO NOT BUY DOWN!!!!  You would not pull the hair out of your dog or
cat every 6 months.  Please do not subject other animals to this cruelty.
Do not support this industry!

Diet Plan

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Jay Bruins <jbruins at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you're vegan, down is probably out of the question. If you're not, many
> manufactures use reasonable sources.
>
> "Is your Goose Down ethically sourced?
> Yes. Our white goose down comes directly from a meat processing facility
> in Europe. It is a byproduct of the goose meat industry and would be thrown
> away if it didn't have a use. No birds are force fed, live plucked, or any
> of that nasty business."
> http://zpacks.com/FAQs.shtml#sleepingbags
>
> I would be glad to know what Enlightened Equipment says about their down.
>
> Armstrong
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