[pct-l] Sleeping Bag recommendations

Sabrina Harrison troopharrison at gmail.com
Mon May 16 10:04:46 CDT 2016


Diet Plan - thank you so much for this input. I did some digging around online and found a few companies that harvest down from nests and replace it with hay. An interesting alternative. 
I also contacted enlightened equipment and ask them where they source their down.
Cheers 
Sabrina 

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> On May 15, 2016, at 11:18 PM, Melanie Clarke <melaniekclarke at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Please don't buy down!
> 
> I implore you to buy a cruelty free, down alternative!  Mountain Laurel
> sells an ultralight, synthetic sleep quilt, 19 ounces for the extra warm
> option, extra warm Balaclava 4 ounces.
> http://www.mountainlaureldesigns.com/    Before investing in a sleeping bag
> or quilt please, consider!
> 
> Nearly all down in the world is harvested by pulling out the down from
> alive screaming geese.  They are thrown back into their pens and 6 months
> later this cruel process is repeated.  This cruel process has given us
> cheap down but this is wrong!  These are animals who feel pain.  Imagine
> having the hair from your whole body torn out every 6 months.  Would you
> pull the hair out of your cat or dog?  It is inhumane to support this
> industry so you can shave 4 ounces from your pack weight!  Yes, we harvest
> down from dead geese, after we have pulled down out of their bodies for a
> couple of years!  So sad!
> 
> Yes, down initially has marginally better warmth to weight ratio but this
> ratio crashes when it gets wet or after months of compression in your back
> pack.  Also, Mountain Laurel's bag is cheaper than a down bag.  This bag
> kept me fairly comfortable in Glacier N.P. when my quilt was wet after 2
> days of rain in about 32 degrees (at night).  A quilt can get a little
> drafty so this year I'm turning my quilt into a bag by sewing a slightly
> smaller "Neoair" sized fabric piece and zipper.  Then I'm placing the
> Neoair inside this bag so the fabric is on the bottom of the Neoair so it
> won't matter and the insulated part of the quilt (bag) will be nicely
> tucked under the Neoair.  Ron mailed me some extra Denier fabric and I
> ordered a 5mm 72" separating zipper from zippershipper.com.
> 
> Ray Jardine sells a sew it yourself kit on his web site but I like my "do
> it yourself" modification on my Mountain Laurel quilt better.
> 
> If we all buy cruelty free options, the industry will make ultralight
> synthetic versions available to us.  I'm still waiting for my zipper to
> arrive but when I'm done, I'm going to send the photos to Mountain Laurel
> to see if they might want to manufacture this design to help stop the
> abusive treatment to geese!
> 
> There are also plenty of ultralight synthetic jackets on the market now
> also.  Once again, PLEASE DO NOT BUY DOWN!!!!
> 
> Diet Plan
> 
> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Jerry's gmail <geraldbking at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm planning a 2017 PCT thru-hike and after 40 years of backpacking (less
>> than 3 weeks a year) I want to go much lighter on all my gear. I'm looking
>> for opinions on quality 20F-30F down bags. I've looked at Western
>> Mountaineering's 20F Ultralite @ 29oz; 30F Megalite @ 24oz and ZPacks 20F
>> (6'1") @ 18oz.
>> I'm 5'9" and ok with a "regular" width mummy.
>> Are there other models you would recommend?
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