[pct-l] Troublemakers

[Andrea Dinsmore]

I see a comparison between NOBOs and SOBOs.   SOBOs aren't into the
drinking, smoking, bad attitudes or smart ass behavior. They seem to be
more into the trail and their performance and planning​.  Partying is the
furthest thought of their hike. Maybe part of this difference is that they
start a few at a time and have to immediately get serious about their
survival. This has been the way the SOBOs have been for 14 years.  The
NOBOs (that drink a lot) would hit here and show up with 1-2 cases of beer
each were always under 30 yrs old and showed up in a group. Solo hikers
occasionally with 1 six pack.

Andrea

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Linda Sheehan <lwshee at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there anything we can do about this problem at an individual hiker
> level? I respect the attempts by the PCT organization to try and lessen the
> blow on the trail. But when we see things happening what do people of this
> forum think we can do to try to stem the tide?
> I have never (being a section hiker) attended, sad to say, the party in
> April at Moreno. Would that be a venue to enforce the golden rule in some
> way?
> Will this issue be dealt with in any way at the San Diego get together?
> lover of the hills, Linda S.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 5:29 AM, Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > From: "Ned Tibbits" <ned at mountaineducation.org>
> > To: "Roger Carpenter" <pinecone at elkpass.com>, Pct-L at backcountry.net
> > Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 10:07:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Troublemakers
> >
> > Just a quick question on this topic of "trail policing..."
> >
> > What does the AT do about it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > As an organization, not much that I'm aware of. With many more hikers,
> the
> > number of self-centered jerks is proportionally larger than on the PCT,
> and
> > more concentrated (shorter trail, more trail towns to resupply).
> >
> > A recent issue of the AT magazine ("AT Journeys") highlighted the
> problems
> > that hikers are creating in Baxter State Park and Mt. Katahdin
> > particularly. Even a thru-runner, seeking to break the time record,
> > blatantly violated several BSP rules for Katadhin. Apparently, it's
> gotten
> > so bad that park officials are considering closing Katadhin as the
> northern
> > terminus of the AT, which would be a real tragedy.
> >
> > The ATC is following many of the same strategies that the PCTA is (or
> > maybe vice-versa) - trying to get people to spread out their start times,
> > esp. at the southern end; increased education about LNT and town
> behavior,
> > etc.
> >
> > One thing for sure - this is a problem in the greater society, not just
> > the trails. Bad trail behavior is just reflecting what's happening in
> > society. And I don't see it being eliminated any time soon.
> >
> > Mango
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> >
> > Ned Tibbits, Director
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> >
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