[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 83, Issue 8
Dan Durston
durston.dan at gmail.com
Tue Nov 11 12:43:03 CST 2014
Can someone tell me the mailing address for Ziggy and the Bear? I seem to
have lost it.
Thanks!
Dan
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> 1. Down booties (JPL)
> 2. Double Tap Hikes : PCT Personal Online Classes (Matt Parker)
> 3. Re: Down booties (Ken Powers)
> 4. Re: Down booties (Rod Miller)
> 5. Re: Down booties (Brian Watt)
> 6. Re: Down booties (isabella at bendnet.com)
> 7. Austin TX Downtown REI class: Pacific Crest Trail (PCT)
> Hiking Basics (Brian Watt)
> 8. Re: Down booties (JPL)
> 9. Re: Down booties (JPL)
> 10. Down booties (Dan C. aka Thumper)
> 11. Dinsmore's 2014 PCT hiker video (Andrea Dinsmore)
> 12. Re: Down booties (Tortoise)
> 13. Re: Down booties (JPL)
> 14. Re: Down booties (Melanie Clarke)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:30:16 -0500
> From: "JPL" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Down booties
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I have problems with cold feet. Even in the warmest sleeping bag in
> moderate temps, my feet will get uncomfortably cold. I'm thinking of
> getting a pair of down booties to see if that helps. Any one have any
> experience with such and have any recommendations?
>
> ______________________________
> JL
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 17:16:26 -0800
> From: "Matt Parker" <zerosignal74 at comcast.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Double Tap Hikes : PCT Personal Online Classes
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Hello all,
>
>
>
> Double Tap here. After completing a PCT thru hike in 2014 I decided to
> start
> an online long distance backpacking class website to help people prepare
> for
> hiking the PCT. This is an interactive personal online class where I run
> through a presentation with you in real time. If you are interested in thru
> or section hiking the PCT check out my website at
> <http://www.doubletaphikes.com/> www.doubletaphikes.com.
>
>
>
> Classes include:
> PCT-101 The water report, hiking the snowy Sierras, gear
> (backpack,
> tent,shoes), permits, resupplying on trail, food, clothing, maps, expenses,
> electronics, smart phone apps, information on poison oak & poodle dog bush,
> and checklists.
> PCT-RESU Resupply locations for the entire PCT, resupply fees, buy as
> you go options, bounce boxes, a custom tailored resupply strategy fit to
> your requirements and hiking rate, and all resupply box labels (ready to
> print).
> PCT-CASA California-Section A (Important water sources, the water
> report, campsites, resupplying strategies and resupply box labels, lodging,
> best time of the year to hike, special gear for this section, and places on
> this section of trail to avoid during the heat of the day).
> PCT-xxxx Classes for all 29 sections of the PCT in California,
> Oregon, and Washington.
>
>
>
> SPECIAL OFFERS:
> * The first 3 people who email me at matt at doubletaphikes.com will get the
> PCT-101 presentation and online class for FREE.
> * PCT-CASA (California-Section A) is currently FREE for anyone who signs up
> for it by emailing me.
>
>
>
> I have also started a Facebook page for this service at
> <https://www.facebook.com/doubletaphikes> www.facebook.com/doubletaphikes.
> Feel free to email me or post on the Facebook page if you have any
> questions.
>
>
>
> Good luck in preparation for your hike!
>
>
>
> Double Tap
>
> matt at doubletaphikes.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:02:47 -0800
> From: Ken Powers <ken at gottawalk.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
> To: JPL <jplynch at crosslink.net>, PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I haven't tried down booties, but we have carried wool socks that we
> only used for sleeping. Helped keep our bags clean and our feet warm.
>
> Ken
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:30 AM, JPL <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
> > I have problems with cold feet. Even in the warmest sleeping bag in
> > moderate temps, my feet will get uncomfortably cold. I'm thinking of
> > getting a pair of down booties to see if that helps. Any one have any
> > experience with such and have any recommendations?
> >
> > ______________________________
> > JL
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:21:36 -0800
> From: Rod Miller <rod at rodmiller.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <54611E50.1080403 at rodmiller.com>
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> On 11/10/14, 11:30 AM, JPL wrote:
> > I have problems with cold feet. Even in the warmest sleeping bag in
> > moderate temps, my feet will get uncomfortably cold. I'm thinking of
> > getting a pair of down booties to see if that helps. Any one have any
> > experience with such and have any recommendations?
> >
>
> Be aware that they are very slippery on snow.
>
> Years ago someone wearing booties left his tent
> somewhere on Mt. Shasta to pee. Found his body
> at the bottom of the snow slope next day.
> --
> Rod Miller
> Handcraftsman
> ===
> Custom 2-rail O Scale Models: Drives, | O Scale West / S West
> Repairs, Steam Loco Building, More | 2015 Meet is Feb 5 - 7
> http://www.rodmiller.com | http://www.oscalewest.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:23:51 -0600
> From: Brian Watt <bwatt at 1fifoto.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <54611ED7.3010305 at 1fifoto.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Same as Ken... I used fancy wool socks (PossumDown from NZ:
> http://www.possumdown.co.nz/collections/socks) each night which kept my
> feet toasty and the bag clean.
>
> Bri/"Tartan"
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:30:02 -0800
> From: <isabella at bendnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
> To: <rod at rodmiller.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <005201cffd25$1cdb11d0$56913570$@bendnet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Love my Montbell Down Booties........I would never walk outside with them.
> I keep them clean for just my sleeping bag. And only 3 ozs!!
> Isabella
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Rod Miller
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:22 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
>
> On 11/10/14, 11:30 AM, JPL wrote:
> > I have problems with cold feet. Even in the warmest sleeping bag in
> > moderate temps, my feet will get uncomfortably cold. I'm thinking of
> > getting a pair of down booties to see if that helps. Any one have any
> > experience with such and have any recommendations?
> >
>
> Be aware that they are very slippery on snow.
>
> Years ago someone wearing booties left his tent somewhere on Mt. Shasta to
> pee. Found his body at the bottom of the snow slope next day.
> --
> Rod Miller
> Handcraftsman
> ===
> Custom 2-rail O Scale Models: Drives, | O Scale West / S West
> Repairs, Steam Loco Building, More | 2015 Meet is Feb 5 - 7
> http://www.rodmiller.com | http://www.oscalewest.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:31:13 -0600
> From: Brian Watt <bwatt at 1fifoto.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Austin TX Downtown REI class: Pacific Crest Trail
> (PCT) Hiking Basics
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <54612091.3060201 at 1fifoto.com>
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> For anyone in Austin TX who is considering hiking on the PCT see
> "Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) Hiking Basics" at
> http://www.rei.com/event/55754/session/102330 at the downtown REI
> presented by a member of their staff.
>
> *Description: *This class is designed to give the prospective Pacific
> Crest Trail hiker and backpacker a solid foundation for planning a trip
> on the trail. We'll focus on trip planning skills for day hikes, section
> hikes, and thru hikes. Learn some basic resources and tips to get you
> started on your trip planning. This course helps start you on a journey
> of a lifetime.
>
> I'm helping out by bringing some poster-sized pictures to decorate the
> room from my hike this year.
>
> Bri/"Tartan" 2014 PCT Thru-hiker.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:40:36 -0500
> From: "JPL" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
> To: <isabella at bendnet.com>, <rod at rodmiller.com>,
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <D7C8BE1940904FFDA4BE638670708178 at jpl3PC>
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> Thanks all; looking for something for only sleeping bag use... not walking
> around!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isabella at bendnet.com
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 3:30 PM
> To: rod at rodmiller.com ; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
>
> Love my Montbell Down Booties........I would never walk outside with them.
> I keep them clean for just my sleeping bag. And only 3 ozs!!
> Isabella
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Rod Miller
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:22 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
>
> On 11/10/14, 11:30 AM, JPL wrote:
> > I have problems with cold feet. Even in the warmest sleeping bag in
> > moderate temps, my feet will get uncomfortably cold. I'm thinking of
> > getting a pair of down booties to see if that helps. Any one have any
> > experience with such and have any recommendations?
> >
>
> Be aware that they are very slippery on snow.
>
> Years ago someone wearing booties left his tent somewhere on Mt. Shasta to
> pee. Found his body at the bottom of the snow slope next day.
> --
> Rod Miller
> Handcraftsman
> ===
> Custom 2-rail O Scale Models: Drives, | O Scale West / S West
> Repairs, Steam Loco Building, More | 2015 Meet is Feb 5 - 7
> http://www.rodmiller.com | http://www.oscalewest.com
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:30:06 -0500
> From: "JPL" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
> To: <isabella at bendnet.com>, <rod at rodmiller.com>,
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <4F73F65C52FA4EEF97E26E3027CC6210 at jpl3PC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Do you have a source for the Montbell Down Booties. Can't seem to find
> anything on the web...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JPL
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 3:40 PM
> To: isabella at bendnet.com ; rod at rodmiller.com ; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
>
> Thanks all; looking for something for only sleeping bag use... not walking
> around!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isabella at bendnet.com
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 3:30 PM
> To: rod at rodmiller.com ; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
>
> Love my Montbell Down Booties........I would never walk outside with them.
> I keep them clean for just my sleeping bag. And only 3 ozs!!
> Isabella
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Rod Miller
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:22 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
>
> On 11/10/14, 11:30 AM, JPL wrote:
> > I have problems with cold feet. Even in the warmest sleeping bag in
> > moderate temps, my feet will get uncomfortably cold. I'm thinking of
> > getting a pair of down booties to see if that helps. Any one have any
> > experience with such and have any recommendations?
> >
>
> Be aware that they are very slippery on snow.
>
> Years ago someone wearing booties left his tent somewhere on Mt. Shasta to
> pee. Found his body at the bottom of the snow slope next day.
> --
> Rod Miller
> Handcraftsman
> ===
> Custom 2-rail O Scale Models: Drives, | O Scale West / S West
> Repairs, Steam Loco Building, More | 2015 Meet is Feb 5 - 7
> http://www.rodmiller.com | http://www.oscalewest.com
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:40:51 -0800
> From: "Dan C. aka Thumper" <dofdear at cox.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Down booties
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <20141110174051.1EEP8.135352.imail at fed1rmwml303>
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> JPL,
>
> Montbell calls them Foot Warmers. Try,
> http://www.montbell.us/products/list.php?cat_id=3223
>
> Thumper
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:20:05 -0800
> From: Andrea Dinsmore <andrea at dinsmoreshikerhaven.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Dinsmore's 2014 PCT hiker video
> To: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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> Finished our 2014 PCT hiker video. Hope you enjoy seeing all your friends
> again. It was a great year. Thanks to all the wonderful folks who brought
> us so much happiness.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvmHSqNK3Xg&list=UUcHFY6WDr4zLuj7DYRr9z6w
>
> Peace and Love
>
> The Dinsmores
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 06:22:39 -0800
> From: Tortoise <tortoise73 at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
> To: JPL <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Cc: "<pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <9144E383-EF81-429B-8E83-039ECBCA4455 at charter.net>
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> Maybe the problem is that your head is exposed to the cold. Do you cover
> your head to keep from losing heat there? If not that may be the problem.
> The body well keep your head warm and let other parts get cold.
>
> Tortoise
>
> All content is copyrighted by their respective authors.
> Use elsewhere than this list without permission prohibited.
>
> Dictated / Typoed on my iPad.
>
> > On Nov 10, 2014, at 11:30, JPL <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
> >
> > I have problems with cold feet. Even in the warmest sleeping bag in
> > moderate temps, my feet will get uncomfortably cold. I'm thinking of
> > getting a pair of down booties to see if that helps. Any one have any
> > experience with such and have any recommendations?
> >
> > ______________________________
> > JL
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:24:23 -0500
> From: "JPL" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
> To: "Tortoise" <tortoise73 at charter.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <18D41F9A1F9C48C19D77CA4356D7BDC3 at jpl3PC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Head was covered and warm, as was my upper torso. Just the feets were
> cold!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tortoise
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:22 AM
> To: JPL
> Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
>
> Maybe the problem is that your head is exposed to the cold. Do you cover
> your head to keep from losing heat there? If not that may be the problem.
> The body well keep your head warm and let other parts get cold.
>
> Tortoise
>
> All content is copyrighted by their respective authors.
> Use elsewhere than this list without permission prohibited.
>
> Dictated / Typoed on my iPad.
>
> > On Nov 10, 2014, at 11:30, JPL <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
> >
> > I have problems with cold feet. Even in the warmest sleeping bag in
> > moderate temps, my feet will get uncomfortably cold. I'm thinking of
> > getting a pair of down booties to see if that helps. Any one have any
> > experience with such and have any recommendations?
> >
> > ______________________________
> > JL
> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 07:08:20 -0800
> From: Melanie Clarke <melaniekclarke at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
> To: JPL <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Socks will work nicely!
>
> Down booties might be an overkill but I ALWAYS carry an extra pair of socks
> just to wear to sleep. Down booties also violate the #1 ultra-light rule
> where an item needs more than one function. So this pair of socks will
> become part of my hiking rotation. Everyday I will wash/rinse out my pair
> of dirty socks and strap it to the outside of my pack to dry. I feel it is
> very important to have a clean pair of socks every day as dust and dirt can
> act like little razor blades to rub and create hot spots which make your
> feet sore. Go ahead and wear the same shirt for a week but clean the
> socks! I always have 3 pairs of socks (this goes for underwear also but I
> am a female); one on my feet, one drying on my pack and a clean pair inside
> and to use at night for sleeping. Usually, I can get by with just rotating
> the 2 socks and keep the one pair for night use until the last day before
> pulling into a town. But it's nice to have an extra pair in case you get
> wet on a stream crossing on a cold day. On most days, I just plow through
> the stream, shoes, socks and just keep hiking. It usually dries in a
> couple of hours but you can't have waterproof shoes to do this.
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:24 AM, JPL <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
>
> > Head was covered and warm, as was my upper torso. Just the feets were
> > cold!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tortoise
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:22 AM
> > To: JPL
> > Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Down booties
> >
> > Maybe the problem is that your head is exposed to the cold. Do you cover
> > your head to keep from losing heat there? If not that may be the problem.
> > The body well keep your head warm and let other parts get cold.
> >
> > Tortoise
> >
> > All content is copyrighted by their respective authors.
> > Use elsewhere than this list without permission prohibited.
> >
> > Dictated / Typoed on my iPad.
> >
> > > On Nov 10, 2014, at 11:30, JPL <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have problems with cold feet. Even in the warmest sleeping bag in
> > > moderate temps, my feet will get uncomfortably cold. I'm thinking of
> > > getting a pair of down booties to see if that helps. Any one have any
> > > experience with such and have any recommendations?
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