[pct-l] [SPAM] Needs to be said

[allunknowing at yahoo.com]

Your morally superior judgements have been noted.   Give me a break.  

- mad science

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> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 10:10:10 -0700
> From: marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
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> I am so thankful that this problem is getting discussed. After my 2012 hike I wrote a letter to a trail publication concerning the behavior that I saw on the trail. The former editor thought it was too controversial to publish. Therefore,I don't want this thread to stop at this level. The point is to brainstorm solutions. It is way past time to stop this mess.
> Whether some hikers are conscious of it or not, they are afraid. That means they use painkiller behavior--drinking,dope,mob/group think activity. It's time to talk about ways to deal with that fear. Just the act of walking reconnects one 's brain. You lose your defenses.  Most of what happens in the non trail world is avoidance activity that kills pain. On the trail the whole process puts you closer to your feelings. That means all of your feelings--the painful and the good ones. 
> Each year a certain percentage of hikers actually needs to hear what is considered human behavior. 
> Every year I have voted against moving to sites for the Gathering that allowed alcohol.  Last year that was changed. It worked out OK. But, we are dealing with at the most a couple if hundred people. I didn't want it to change into the "Stover Pond" drunken nightmare that ALDHAEAST dealt with. It is clear that the towns a and TA are sick of the behavior.  Do we need a talk at the KO nighttime slideshows about this?  We talked about it briefly at the Women's Trekker's meeting. 
> This forum reaches a lot of hikers. Keep talking about it. If nothing else the drunks/stoners/idiots will p***,sh**,leave trash,steal from each other and vomit all over themselves in their tents not at the TA's or in town. Might not stop the sociopaths but we could  reach the garden variety neurotic.   Marmot
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