[pct-l] New Mountain Education videos on YouTube!

[walt Durling]

Wow, Signore seems to be suffering a bit from over-ego and pomposity.  As far as I can discern, Tibbett covers typical PCT conditions, not the frikin' French Alps or Himalaya's!  Ive met the  man on the trail and found him very knowledgeable and personable.  His techniques are basic, but NTL important for what one may encounter in the high Sierra or Cascades.  

Roping?  Forsooth!  There are hundreds of solitary hikers out there on the trail, and I'm one of them.  What am I gonna do with it?  Lasso a pine tree?  What I need to know is how not to fall down a snow-covered slope, and if I do, how to recover.  One can graduate from any mountaineering school anywhere complete with bona fide certified instructors......and still fall and die. It happens.   It ain't Disney World out there!  

Ned provides a vital service anyone can profit from who hikes trails such as the PCT, and has done so for years.  That's not to say that his services are absolutely needed to successfully hike the trail, but we all can stand to learn something, and having basic snow skills adds a bit of safety.  

Signore's lambast is off the mark.

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> On Jun 30, 2014, at 16:02, Dave Fajer <davefajer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  If you have credentials...you didn't list them......can you?  
> 
> I have taken 3 courses from Mountain Education...All perfectly safe but challenging IMHO and perfect for preps for my intended forays.
> 
> I see some rancor in your words for sure......perhaps some personal issues and experiences too!.  Please help me understand better where you are coming from.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Coastal
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
> 
> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Matt Signore <mpsignore at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:06/30/2014  12:38 PM  (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: Ned Tibbits <ned at mountaineducation.org> </div><div>Cc: johnmuirtrail at yahoogroups.com, pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net> </div><div>Subject: Re: [pct-l] New Mountain Education videos on YouTube! </div><div>
> </div>I would rather see the video of the guy plummeting down Harts Pass breaking
> 3 ribs and his scalp laceration.  You know the guy that should have been
> roped to you as his guide. he as your client.  Especially since he didn't
> know how to self arrest yet.  His blood is literally on your hands.
> 
> No credible guide service would allow a client to travel un-roped with the
> objective hazards Harts Pass can present.  If you cannot teach roped
> travel, and manage a rope team you should reconsider guiding clients.  You
> could more safely teach snow basic courses at a ski resort and eliminate
> the risk to your clients?  That would cost each person a lift ticket at
> most.
> 
> Instead of linking Youtube videos I would rather see a link to the permits
> you have gotten from the Federal Land Agency where you are offering
> classes.  Maybe even an AMGA guide certificate.  Because if that same
> incident would have occurred with an AMGA certified guide I am quite sure
> the AMGA would revoke his guide's license.  You just don't seem to care
> enough to carry a rope.
> 
> I hate to nit pick, but you obviously are not taking the necessary
> precautions to keep your clients safe.  A guide needs to teach and take
> necessary precautions to ensure your clients the best and safest possible
> experience.  Everytime you post about your guide service I will make sure
> this comes up.  You are not doing anyone any favors in this fashion.  You
> are putting them in harms way.  The client is just too blind to see that
> until it is too late.
> 
> Matt Signore
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