[pct-l] Water Cache at Scissors Xing

[Lyn Turner]

And why not? If they feel fit and strong enough to walk miles and carry a pack, if they can use a map, if they know how to look after themselves and LNT, be respectful of the trail and others hiking...why not?

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> On 28 Apr 2014, at 01:59, Gail Van Velzer <vanvelzer at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> I have thought many times about putting teeth behind permits.  Just the fire 
> permit alone should make a person prove they know what they are doing. 
> Permits are issued for the asking.  That doesn't ensure safety.  Not even a 
> question is asked when you get a permit and certainly nothing is enforced! 
> I agree that a PCT permit should only be issued after a person has proven 
> they have the experience to tackle such a thing.  Too many people begin with 
> no experience with a long distance hike let alone any backpacking knowledge. 
> I just met a person today at the Kickoff that told me they have only 
> backpacked a few times....and they are tackling the PCT?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Luce Cruz" <lucecruz13 at gmail.com>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water Cache at Scissors Xing
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2014 6:20 PM, "Judson Brown" <judsonwb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> . Make the permitting process much more stringent, with some teeth
>>> behind it, or even start charging for the permit. Maybe before being
>>> allowed a permit, you have to pass a class on LNT, fire/stove safety,
>>> long-distance hiking logistics, etc., which could be administered, say,
>>> through REI outlets. Or taken online.
>> 
>> This is not the way I picture open access to public land. The need is
>> enforcement of current laws and regulations, not more hoops for users to
>> jump through. I've always imagined that enforcement could be self
>> sustaining in that fines should pay for the enforcers, but they are human,
>> too, and might abuse that system.
>> 
>> I am not "on the ground" so to speak for the trip on the trail, but I can
>> easily imagine that the reason folks get away with their terrible behavior
>> and treatment of their surroundings is simply because most of the time, if
>> someone sees their transgressions, no one says or does anything about it.
>> If that is the case, it makes me sad.
>> 
>> Where have all the "stand up" people gone?
>> 
>> Luce Cruz
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