[pct-l] Tuna Helper's PCT Speed Attempt 2014 (Ryan Weidert)

Fri Apr 11 17:55:15 CDT 2014

Sounds good to me : )

Sent from my iPhone by Ryan Allouche


> On Apr 11, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Ryan Weidert <ryan.weidert at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I follow the "rules" that Scott Williamson uses, which I feel is a good way
> to approach it. This keeps the new records similar to old ones in regards
> to how they are completed so as to minimize possible arguments down the
> road. Everyone has their interpretation to what is self-supported or
> unsupported is, which means lots of grey area, however I think a good
> explanation is found on the FKT PCT page.
> "
> The PCT is usually done in typical thru-hiker style, which we would
> classify as "self-supported" -- rather than having a dedicated support
> crew, the hiker may use mail drops, facillities in towns along the way, and
> the kindness of strangers. Technically, any pre-arranged support such as
> friends meeting you along the trail with supplies would be considered
> "supported". Scott Williamson and Joe Kisner previously held the record for
> the fastest thru-hiker-style (which they call "unassisted") "
> 
> More specifically I agree with Yogi, if its not planned food and is there
> for everyone, its fair game. Pre arranged is a no no, but theres a little
> lee way. I read somewhere that when Williamson met his wife at Donner Pass
> near their home during one record hike, she brought a Pizza... Im sure it
> wasn't pre-planned and he would have shared with other hikers, but its in
> the grey area. It'd mainly be a problem if they were bringing you a
> resupply. When it all comes down to it, its all about what you feel is
> right and according to the rules. No one is going to watch you, and the
> honor system is king.
> 
> -TUNA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> My opinion -- and that's all it is, an opinion -- is that if you come
>> across something on the trail which is there for ANYONE to use/drink/eat,
>> then use/drink/eat it and you're still unsupported.  If you plan to have
>> someone meet you with stuff, then that is supported.
>> 
>> Good luck to all you record-seekers!  I'm proud of all of you for just
>> attempting this!
>> 
>> Yogi
>> www.yogisbooks.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Ryan Allouche <ryanallouche at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Rhino here from 2011. I will be attempting as well and I can't wait! This
>>> is going to be a battle for sure and I wish everyone the best of luck.
>>> 
>>> I will be going unsupported as well. But is there a definition for the
>> pct
>>> version of unsupported? If one took food from a trail angel is that
>>> considered having support. I wouldn't  think so but I'm sure others could
>>> argue. As far as I understand unsupported is carrying your own food and
>>> water and gear, not hitchhiking into town to resupply, but walking to and
>>> from the trailhead into town to resupply and simply walking back to where
>>> you got off.
>>> 
>>> There is always someone that will argue supported vs unsupported. On FKT
>>> some people say unsupported is just that, no help what so ever and
>> carrying
>>> all your food for the duration of the trip. Obviously that's not possible
>>> doing the PCT.
>>> 
>>> No matter what people think or say, doing 45-50 miles a day is no joke.
>> If
>>> a trail angel offers me food at a trail junction, I'm freaking eating it.
>>> And I would consider my journey still as "unsupported".
>>> 
>>> Good luck guys on the attempt : )
>>> Embrace the brutality.
>>> 
>>> Rhino PCT 2011
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone by Ryan Allouche
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Ryan Weidert <ryan.weidert at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for those kind words Dale - If I remember correctly, it was
>>>> raining/sprinkling and you were in your tent? and thanks to all the
>> well
>>>> wishing and support! It'll be a good year for another go and Ive
>> learned
>>> in
>>>> the last couple days there are 3 possibly 4 others attempting the same
>>>> thing!
>>>> 
>>>> As for the story about me by Matt (Iceaxe), thats mostly true. My pack
>>> was
>>>> actually about 18lbs (with alll the camera gear) but I did carry the
>>>> absolutely useless 2lbs  "Squid" weight from the lead weight cache at
>>> mile
>>>> 77 all the way to Canada and left it in the monument...which I was told
>>>> last year by Lint that it still resides there. Thus another goal of
>> mine
>>> is
>>>> to hike to Canada to retrieve my hiking companion. As for Sonora pass,
>>>> someone had left a 12pack and we indulged in one...had we been carrying
>>> out
>>>> own private beer supply, I doubt we'd have made it very far haha.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers~
>>>> -Tuna
>>>> On Apr 10, 2014 8:44 PM, "Dale Combs" <comebackwalking at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
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