[pct-l] Tuna Helper's PCT Speed Attempt 2014 (Ryan Weidert)

[Ryan Weidert]

I follow the "rules" that Scott Williamson uses, which I feel is a good way
to approach it. This keeps the new records similar to old ones in regards
to how they are completed so as to minimize possible arguments down the
road. Everyone has their interpretation to what is self-supported or
unsupported is, which means lots of grey area, however I think a good
explanation is found on the FKT PCT page.
"
The PCT is usually done in typical thru-hiker style, which we would
classify as "self-supported" -- rather than having a dedicated support
crew, the hiker may use mail drops, facillities in towns along the way, and
the kindness of strangers. Technically, any pre-arranged support such as
friends meeting you along the trail with supplies would be considered
"supported". Scott Williamson and Joe Kisner previously held the record for
the fastest thru-hiker-style (which they call "unassisted") "

More specifically I agree with Yogi, if its not planned food and is there
for everyone, its fair game. Pre arranged is a no no, but theres a little
lee way. I read somewhere that when Williamson met his wife at Donner Pass
near their home during one record hike, she brought a Pizza... Im sure it
wasn't pre-planned and he would have shared with other hikers, but its in
the grey area. It'd mainly be a problem if they were bringing you a
resupply. When it all comes down to it, its all about what you feel is
right and according to the rules. No one is going to watch you, and the
honor system is king.

-TUNA




On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com>wrote:

> My opinion -- and that's all it is, an opinion -- is that if you come
> across something on the trail which is there for ANYONE to use/drink/eat,
> then use/drink/eat it and you're still unsupported.  If you plan to have
> someone meet you with stuff, then that is supported.
>
> Good luck to all you record-seekers!  I'm proud of all of you for just
> attempting this!
>
> Yogi
> www.yogisbooks.com
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Ryan Allouche <ryanallouche at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Rhino here from 2011. I will be attempting as well and I can't wait! This
> > is going to be a battle for sure and I wish everyone the best of luck.
> >
> > I will be going unsupported as well. But is there a definition for the
> pct
> > version of unsupported? If one took food from a trail angel is that
> > considered having support. I wouldn't  think so but I'm sure others could
> > argue. As far as I understand unsupported is carrying your own food and
> > water and gear, not hitchhiking into town to resupply, but walking to and
> > from the trailhead into town to resupply and simply walking back to where
> > you got off.
> >
> > There is always someone that will argue supported vs unsupported. On FKT
> > some people say unsupported is just that, no help what so ever and
> carrying
> > all your food for the duration of the trip. Obviously that's not possible
> > doing the PCT.
> >
> > No matter what people think or say, doing 45-50 miles a day is no joke.
> If
> > a trail angel offers me food at a trail junction, I'm freaking eating it.
> > And I would consider my journey still as "unsupported".
> >
> > Good luck guys on the attempt : )
> > Embrace the brutality.
> >
> > Rhino PCT 2011
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone by Ryan Allouche
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Ryan Weidert <ryan.weidert at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for those kind words Dale - If I remember correctly, it was
> > > raining/sprinkling and you were in your tent? and thanks to all the
> well
> > > wishing and support! It'll be a good year for another go and Ive
> learned
> > in
> > > the last couple days there are 3 possibly 4 others attempting the same
> > > thing!
> > >
> > > As for the story about me by Matt (Iceaxe), thats mostly true. My pack
> > was
> > > actually about 18lbs (with alll the camera gear) but I did carry the
> > > absolutely useless 2lbs  "Squid" weight from the lead weight cache at
> > mile
> > > 77 all the way to Canada and left it in the monument...which I was told
> > > last year by Lint that it still resides there. Thus another goal of
> mine
> > is
> > > to hike to Canada to retrieve my hiking companion. As for Sonora pass,
> > > someone had left a 12pack and we indulged in one...had we been carrying
> > out
> > > own private beer supply, I doubt we'd have made it very far haha.
> > >
> > > Cheers~
> > > -Tuna
> > > On Apr 10, 2014 8:44 PM, "Dale Combs" <comebackwalking at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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