[pct-l] Mountain Bike Posts

[Nick Thelen]

Hi Chiefcowboy,

Please consult your attorney on the pros/cons of attempting a Citizen's arrest - pretty sure it's not that straight forward. Maybe Timothy Nye will chime in (pretty sure he was an attorney).

I believe it's akin to seizing someone's car and detaining them against their will for doing 80 in a 55.  It can really backfire on you if you are not very, very careful.

Besides, common sense dictates such an attempt in the backcountry is just downright dumb....it's potential to end poorly for ALL involved is high.

So, good luck with your MTB rider detention and property seizing efforts...I look forward to reading about it in the news.

Love,
Nick




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 From: "chiefcowboy at verizon.net" <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:45 PM
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I  would rather exercise my right as a citizen to perform a Citizen's 
Arrest, and deliver them and their offending bike to the nearest law 
enforcement official.  It would be worth the detour required and the case 
wouldn't even be heard until I had completed my thru-hike.  Oh, and I would, 
of course, seize the bike as evidence of their wrong-doing.

Just a thought folks.

-----Original Message----- 
From: tsparks56 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 5:11 PM
To: judsonwb at gmail.com ; nthelen03 at yahoo.com
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They aren't another trail user- they are a trail abuser. Any biker on the
PCT is breaking the law, egregioiusly and willingly. They have no reason
whatsoever to expect level-headed and respectful treatment from the *
legitimate* users of the trail, no more than someone trespassing knowingly
on my property should expect civil treatment from me.

Dang Judson, if you feel that strongly about the murdering, raping and 
pillaging Mt.bikers, why don't you just spray the fools head to toe with a 
can of bear spray?





-----Original Message-----
From: Judson Brown <judsonwb at gmail.com>
To: Nick Thelen <nthelen03 at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Tue, May 14, 2013 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mountain Bike Posts


They aren't another trail user- they are a trail abuser. Any biker on the
PCT is breaking the law, egregioiusly and willingly. They have no reason
whatsoever to expect level-headed and respectful treatment from the *
legitimate* users of the trail, no more than someone trespassing knowingly
on my property should expect civil treatment from me.


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Nick Thelen <nthelen03 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Barry Teschlog Wrote:
>
> And as Mendo Rider as said - REPORT, REPORT, REPORT bikers on the PCT to
> the proper authorities.  Pictures, dates, descriptions, numbers, 
> vandalism,
> damage, etc.  Your report may be the one that provides the final clue as 
> to
> when & where these scofflaws typically poach, which will allow the long 
> arm
> of the Law to find and punish the guilty parties.
>
>
> ________________________________________
>
> Good Afternoon Mr. Teshclog,
>
> Thank you very much for advising the 'Report' approach when it comes to
> encountering another trail user you do not care for.
>
> It is refreshing to read a such a level-headed and appropriate response.
>
> Love,
> Nick
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