[pct-l] Waste disposal

[Nicole E. Phillips]

As a dog owner I can say that I am repulsed by the thought of people
leaving the bags of poop for pick up on the way out. I'm sure I'm preaching
to the choir. IMO, someone who leaves the bag 'to pick up on the way out'
never intends to pack it out in the first place. They are leaving it there
with the assumption that someone else will come along and get it while they
are enjoying their hike. Chances are that even if it is still there they
would walk right past and completely ignore it.
On Jun 7, 2013 8:00 PM, "JPL" <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:

> Yep, if you leave it, you've left a trace!  Even for a day, you've degraded
> the experience for other users that day.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shon mcganty
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 7:49 PM
> To: Ben G ; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Waste disposal
>
> "I would prefer not to store my feces 6 inches away from my face but the
> alternative, that
> somebody else has to do so, is unacceptable."
>
> --that's exactly what I wanted to say.
>
>
> Also, I've been so frustrated with dog owners, who, while out on a hike,
> bag
> their dog's poo in a very brightly colored bag, and store it along the
> trail.  I assume they plan on picking up on the way back, but that doesn't
> matter.  "Pack it in, Pack it out" doesn't mean you can leave trash, go on
> a
> day hike, and get it later.  It should never be left there for others to
> see
> or take out.
>
> I wish some of these people were on this list, but probably not.  Happy
> hiking all.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ben G <bengrunbaum at gmail.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 6:49 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] Waste disposal
>
>
> I went to a presentation last night at Adventure 16 in San Diego where a
> married couple who have climbed to the summit of Whitney over 150 times
> gave a presentation about climbing the mountain to those who aspire to do
> so. There was a ranger there from the Whitney ranger district. He mentioned
> to me that over 23000 people attempted to climb whitney last year and that
> 99 percent of the people who go bring their Wag Bag back down.  He did say
> that last year the rangers had to remove over 250 plastic bags from the
> side of the trail. He spun the reasons somebody would leave a bag there a
> little more positively than I would.  Anyways, pass this along to the other
> hikers you encounter.  Most of the hikers out there are responsible,
> considerate and careful but the select few who do not possess such
> qualities put a negative image on the hiking community.  I would prefer not
> to store my feces 6 inches away from my face but the alternative, that
> somebody else has to do so, is unacceptable.  The same applies to fires in
> areas where they are prohibited. We are the first line of defense against
> those who violate the rules.
>
> By the way, I was under the impression they have been removing feces from
> the campsites on the west side of whitney but I guess they have not done so
> in 5-10 years when they removed thousands of pounds.  Most people seem to
> be obeying the rules.
>
> You can all eat your dinner now.
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