[pct-l] Late permit application.

Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes diane at santabarbarahikes.com
Wed Apr 17 18:11:38 CDT 2013


It is not likely that someone coming from England is going to know  
where they are going to camp. I would just put Strawberry Cienega on  
the State Parks application and then get both permits so that I am  
legit no matter where I am.

I'd get the thru-permit sent to Big Bear and pick it up at the post  
office there. Then no more permits and all the confusion they entail  
are needed.

It might be worth calling the PCTA to see how long they think it  
would take to get a permit sent to England.

On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Stephen Clark wrote:

> The way I understand permits for San Jacinto Wilderness is that you  
> only
> need a State Park permit if you are planning to camp within the  
> State Park
> boundaries or do not have a thru permit otherwise your thru permit is
> sufficient.
>  I have hiked extensively in the San Jacinto Wilderness and 'never'  
> been
> asked for a permit.  The San Gorgonio Wilderness is another story  
> however.
> I have been stopped by rangers nearly every time I hike in the area  
> but,
> again, your thru permit is sufficient as long as you are on the PCT or
> hiking to or from town or a water source.
> Let it also be noted that in So. California you need a stove  
> permit, and
> open fires are not allowed in Cleveland National Forest.
> Snake Charmer
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <
> diane at santabarbarahikes.com> wrote:
>
>> To hike the trail without the thru-hiker permit, you need a hodge-
>> podge of permits. If you want to go with your option 1 you will need
>> to get two permits ASAP for the San Jacinto wilderness. This is
>> because it is managed by two agencies.
>>
>> 1. San Jacinto wilderness permit from California state parks
>> Applications for overnight permits will be accepted up to 56 days (8
>> weeks) in advance; if you apply by mail, send your request in at
>> least 10 days in advance. Sorry, no telephone or FAX requests can be
>> accepted.
>> http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=636
>>
>> 2. A wilderness permit from the Forest Service
>> The United States Forest Service has a similar permit system in
>> effect for wilderness areas in national forests; these permits are
>> issued at U.S.F.S. Headquarters, P.O. Box 518, Idyllwild, California
>> 92549. The U.S.F.S. phone number is: (951) 659-2117.
>> http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5177273.pdf
>>
>> You can obtain these both by mail. It does take them a while to
>> process so do it ASAP.
>>
>> Your option #2 might be just as fast as option 1 and you'll only have
>> to deal with one agency.
>>
>> I have been stopped for permits every time I've been in the San
>> Jacinto wilderness.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So..
>>> 1) My question is: would there be a way that I could obtain a
>>> permit in
>>> person when I arrive in
>>> S.California for a large chunk of the PCT, so that I could perhaps
>>> apply to
>>> get a long-distance
>>> permit sent somewhere along the route? (I have found that it's
>>> possible to
>>> get a 'wilderness permit',
>>>  but there seems to be very little information on how to go about
>>> getting
>>> one in person, and the
>>>  areas it covers etc.)
>>> 2) OR would I be better off applying for the permit from the PCTA  
>>> and
>>> waiting until it arrives before
>>>  booking flights to the US? (If so, does anybody know how long it
>>> would
>>> take for someone living in
>>> the UK to receive the permit?)
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