[pct-l] Arguments for Bikes on the PCT

Cat Nelson sagegirl51 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 22 15:27:20 CDT 2012


It is a dance, toes will get stepped on no matter who leads. There can only
be one leader. Shall we be proactive or reactive?
On Oct 20, 2012 2:34 PM, "CHUCK CHELIN" <steeleye at wildblue.net> wrote:

> Good afternoon,
>
> I entirely agree with Brick.  As a trained and experienced negotiator, I
> object to the most basic premise of the discussion about bikes on the
> PCT.  Between
> any two conflicting sides of a question the aggressive side tends to plan
> ahead, stake out a position, and frame the entire discussion, while the
> other side tends to be defensive and will only react to those parameters.
>  Does
> that seem a bit like bikers vs. hikers?
>
> The result is, most often the aggressive side can gain something – great of
> small – but at the absolute very best the defensive side can only maintain
> status quo.  That’s like a bizarre football game where one team could
> played offense while the other team could only play defense.  There is no
> limit to what the offense can potentially score, but the best the other
> team can possibly hope for is a 0-0 tie.   But it doesn’t end there because
> they’ll be back:  In next week’s game the offense may score 3 points – not
> much but better than zero.  The week after that, they score a touchdown or
> two – and now they have what the sports-talkers call “momentum”.  The
> defense can never score, and the series continues until the offense becomes
> the league champions.  Again, does that seem a bit like bikers vs. hikers –
> everything to gain and nothing to lose?
>
> I wouldn’t play that defensive game:  If the bikers came to me saying,
> “Lets compromise and allow bikes on the PCT,”  I would reply, “I understand
> your position, but not only do I want to keep bikes off the PCT, I want all
> bikes banned from the CDT as well, so let’s start talking on that basis”.
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> -Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT – 1965
>
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