[pct-l] PCT 2012 Thru-hike Gear List - HELP!

[Bill Burge]

My training (Sierra Club Wilderness Travel Course) was to put the closed cell foam on the bottom.

Either way, what you are saying is definitely true for camping directly on snow.

The manner in which the R-value is determined punishes the NeoAir a little.  It does better than other pads that have no internal insulation (like the Big Agnes Insulated AirCore and Exped pads) but not enough to allow camping directly on snow.  Given that, it does seem to do OK below freezing, but how FAR below freezing I can't attest.

I have one, but only slept on it once.  Didn't like the crinkle noise!

Anyone want to buy a once used NeoAir?  Full size, original model $90.  I can bring it to Kick Off or ship, if you pay the Priority Mail shipping.

Bill Burge
bill at burge.com



On Mar 25, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Chris Martin wrote:

> Kimberlie, just at a glance:
> 
> Your NeoAir X-Lite has an advertised R-value of 3.2. Unless you're a very
> warm sleeper, that isn't enough for sleeping on snow or in below-freezing
> temps. Your body heat will get sucked out through the pad to the ground, no
> matter how warm your bag is. Happens to me on my Big Agnes Insulated Air
> Core.
> 
> If you inflate the pad with your lungs (as opposed to an inflation sack),
> humid air inside the pad will decrease the effective insulation value even
> further due to evaporative cooling.
> 
> You'll want to either supplement the NeoAir with a closed-cell foam pad on
> top, or get an inflatable pad with better insulation.
> 
> Closed cell foam might be your best choice, as it doubles as a sit pad and
> serves as a backup when your inflatable pad starts to leak.
> 
> Happy trails,
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Kimberlie Dame <kimberlie.dame at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Hi all! I posted here two years ago asking for help with my Arizona Trail
>> gear list and you gave the most awesome advice. Well here is my Pacific
>> Crest Trail gear list and I'm hoping you guys will shake it down for me! I
>> won't be sensitive/defensive I promise :) Thanks in advance!!
>> Kimberlie
>> 
>> link is here : http://thenewnomads.com/
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