[pct-l] Canada issues

[Jim & Jane Moody]

Slightly off topic, but important for northbounders.  If you enter Canada at Manning Park intending to fly home from Vancouver, make sure you have your PASSPORT, not a passport card.  The pc is valid only for border crossing by land or water; it is NOT valid for flying.  I found out the hard way at the Minneapolis airport a few years ago. 

Mango  



----- Original Message -----


From: "Jackie McDonnell" <yogihikes at gmail.com> 
To: pct-l at backcountry.net 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:02:10 PM 
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Canada issues 

The "Application to Enter Canada via the PCT"  is something from the 
Canadian government.  This is for northbound hikers.  True, there are not 
Canadian agents waiting to accept your permit, and most hikers don't 
attempt to find their way to a Canadian immigration office to surrender the 
permit.  Most hikers hike into Manning Park, then take a bus/train/plane 
back to the US. 

It's different for southbound hikers. 
The US government states that entering the US from Canada via the PCT is 
illegal. 
For the specifics, go here:  http://www.pcthandbook.com/links.php 

then click on:  USFS Notice Regarding Illegal PCT Southbound Entry from 
Canada 

Yogi 
www.pcthandbook.com 

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 3:49 PM, David Thibault <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>wrote: 

> The reason US immigration does not know what this form is, if you hand it 
> to them,  is because it is a Canadian government form and has nothing to do 
> with US immigration - it has to do with Canadian immigration.  US 
> Immigration doesn't really care how you got into Canada, they just are 
> concerned about whether you are allowed into the US. 
> 
> Most people getting this permit don't seem to fully understand that it is 
> from the "Canadian Government" giving you, a non-Canadian citizen, the 
> permission to enter Canada on the PCT. The "US Government" has nothing to 
> do with this permission - the US Government will not give permission to 
> anyone to enter the US via the PCT - even US citizens. Actually the US 
> Government has complained to Canada about allowing folks to entering Canada 
> in this way as they consider it insecure. 
> 
> Unfortunately I foresee no change in the US government policy about 
> entering the US via the PCT on a preapproved basis as this current 
> reasonable Canadian policy now allows.  IMHO the paranoia or just normal 
> bureaucratic tendencies of the US Government are never going to tend toward 
> reasonableness on this issue. 
> 
> Day-Late 
> 
> 
> 
> > That Canadian entry permit that your supposed to surrender upon arrival? 
> > 
> > If you fly home from Vancouver, you go through US customs there, not 
> > when you land in the US.  There's no Canadian involvement. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> http://www.yvr.ca/en/navigating-yvr/customs-immigration/us-customs-border-protection.aspx 
> > 
> > As has been stated many times before, this thing is hard to get rid 
> > of.  US customs knows nothing about the entry permit.  I offered mine 
> > up, and the agent said he'd never heard of it, but would pass it 
> > along. 
> > 
> > .. 
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