[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 56, Issue 14

[Jane Overton]

Re: water cache.

Oh no! I did not mean to come off as tough. I was just asking because what
would I do if I were depended on water caches and there wasn't one or it
was empty?  Am planning fir next year and trying to figure stuff out. Am
old and slow so will be behind the pack the whole way, probably. Am
depending in walking farther each day at a slower pace.
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>    1. Re: AsABat (abiegen at cox.net)
>    2. Re: Where to cross Muddy Fork (mile 2119) (Len Glassner)
>    3. AsABat (linsey)
>    4. AsABat RIP (Greg Hummel)
>    5. Report on trail conditions for Washington section J (Blue Feather)
>    6. Re: Smoke (edjarrett at msn.com)
>    7. santiam pass parking (Ted Williams)
>    8. Re: santiam pass parking (CHUCK CHELIN)
>    9. Re: Asabats Passing (hiker97 at aol.com)
>   10. Vacuum sealer info and an urgent request (Jennifer Zimmerman)
>   11. Re: AsABat RIP (Ground Pounder)
>   12. Re: Third gate Water Caches (Brick Robbins)
>   13. Re: Third gate Water Caches (Jeff Eckert)
>   14. Re: AsABat RIP (Kathi)
>   15. I'm back from the Tahoe Rim Trail (Brick Robbins)
>   16. Re: Asabat? (David Thibault)
>   17. Re: Third gate Water Caches (Carl Siechert)
>   18. Re: Asabat? (Sir Mixalot)
>   19. Ta's in ashland (Jack Cimo)
>   20. Re: Recruiting New Water Cachers! (Greg Hummel)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:46:09 -0400
> From: <abiegen at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] AsABat
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <20120813144609.NMBQ5.1169368.imail at eastrmwml304>
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>
> All,
>
> So sorry to hear of the tragic loss of AsABat. Only met him a couple of
> times at kick-off but carried his water report with me on the trail at all
> times. More valuable than anything else I was carrying. My thoughts go out
> to his family. Obviously the loss of a young healthy man is not something
> that is expected or easy to accept. I hope his family knows how much he was
> appreciated by hundreds of hikers and friends.
>
> I know we can find someone to pick up the gauntlet of the water report and
> carry it on in his honor.
>
> TrailHacker
> --
> "When my feet hurt, I can't think straight"
> Abraham Lincoln
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:01:30 -0700
> From: Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Where to cross Muddy Fork (mile 2119)
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> I was able to use foot and hand holds to get down, without dropping ten
> feet.
>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:18 AM, I Discovered That By Going Out I Had
> Really Gone In <timpnye at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The problem with the tree is that the far end has a huge fan of roots
> splayed out around it higher than a man. Some of these in a small arc have
> been broken off at thigh height, but then there is a sheer drop down to the
> shore of ten feet or so. I went through there 3 days ago at 4 in the
> afternoon and forded. It was only knee deep. The couple I camped with that
> night, Norm and Strange Terrain were right behind me and also forded
> without any problems.
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
> >
> > Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Halfmile shows two places - 'MuddyFord' (for stock) at 2119.2, and
> >>'MuddyBridge'  (for hikers) at 2119.5.
> >>
> >>Cross on the huge downed tree that is at 2119.2.
> >>
> >>The bridge at 2119.5 is gone.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:10:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: linsey <mowoggirl at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] AsABat
> To: pct list serve <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> What a profound loss. ?While I'm not sure it's proper, I feel compelled to
> cut/paste/&post the following?excerpt from AsABat's illustrious
> internet?presence. ?Please note his reminder to fill out your organ donor
> cards.
>
>
>
> AsABat
> www.4jeffrey.net
>
> What's an AsABat?
> It's common on the long trails to take, or be given, a trail name. There
> are many people I consider friends who I know only by their trail names.
> Because they are easy to remember, it helps the trail grapevine communicate
> information up and down the trail.
> Contrary to the belief of a few hiking partners, my trail name does not
> refer to hiking "as a bat out of Hades." Rather, it refers to "blind as a
> bat." In 1996 and 1997 I had new corneas installed. Prior to the
> transplants I spent a short time legally blind because of keratoconus.
> Hence, I was blind as a bat. When others ask how I got my name, I relate
> this information and remind them to fill out their organ donor cards.
> Not drawing any comparisons to myself, I can relate to John Muir who,
> before his conservationist career, was quite the inventor. He punctured an
> eye in an industrial accident and lay in darkness for two months until his
> vision slowly returned. That was a turning point in his life, and he later
> wrote,
> "Now had I arisen from the grave!?
> God has to nearly kill us sometimes, to teach us lessons,"
> and later,
> "I bade adieu to all my mechanical inventions,?
> determined to devote the rest of my life to the study of the inventions of
> God."
> BTW, yes, I spell it as one word. I started out writing it "Asabat" but
> confused too many people, so adopted the funky capitalization "AsABat."
> Back to AsABat's Pacific Crest Trail?
> Back to 4 Jeffrey Net Hiking Pages
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:33:38 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Greg Hummel <bighummel at aol.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] AsABat RIP
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> We, the organizers of the ADZPCTKO, wish to express our deep shock, sorrow
> and sadness upon hearing the news of the passing of Bill "AsABat" Jeffrey.
> Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and his wife, Cindy.
>
>
> Bill joined the ADZ organizers in the early years of the event and brought
> a high energy and deep passion for the PCT to all he did. He handled
> emergency communications for the event and showed a cool, calm response to
> several "lost or missing" hiker reports over the years.  He helped with AV,
> local logistics, and many other important aspects of the event, as well as
> serving on the board of directors.
>
>
> His innovative online southern California water report brought him a PCTA
> award and recognition.
>
>
> He passed doing what he and all of you love to do; hiking.  He will be
> sorely missed and forever in our memories and prayers.
>
>
> Greg Hummel
>
>
>
> "I'm afraid of nothing and scared of everything"- GNH
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:04:48 -0700
> From: Blue Feather <joewwaters at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Report on trail conditions for Washington section J
> To: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <1E741C17-B119-49F3-A02D-4AF05B67BA3D at earthlink.net>
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> FYI, I have just submitted to pcta.org a report on trail conditions for
> Washington section J..
>
> Because of time limitations, I am saving WA K for another time - and now
> bouncing to Stehekin and doing WA L.
>
> - Blue Feather (sent from my iPhone)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:50:06 -0700
> From: "edjarrett at msn.com" <edjarrett at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Smoke
> To: "Brian Montgomery"<bmontgomery746 at gmail.com>,
>         pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net, rcluster at comcast.net
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP16306D69A5ACB34FAEE228FAAB70 at phx.gbl>
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>
> Thanks.  It had mostly cleared up the next day although there was a bit of
> haze out today as I get closer to Calif.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE Phone
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Brian Montgomery <bmontgomery746 at gmail.com>
> To: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net,  rcluster at comcast.net
> Sent: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 20:25:28 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [pct-l] Smoke
>
> I grew up in the Willamette Valley... It's mid-August and the valley grass
> seed farmers are burning their fields...  along with a common summer
> north-north-west wind puts the smoke at Crater Lake.  Ruins your photos and
> maybe effects your breathing, but generally it's nothing to worry about.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:21:35 -0700
> From: Ted Williams <drtedwilliams at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] santiam pass parking
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> What is the best place to park for a multi day hike at santiam pass?
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:49:56 -0700
> From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] santiam pass parking
> To: Ted Williams <drtedwilliams at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Good evening, Ted,
>
> There?s a generous trailhead parking lot at Santiam Pass summit. It has
> toilets, and the PCT is just a few yards past the east end of the parking
> lot.  I suppose that lot is the best place to leave a car, at least it?s
> probably better than leaving it parked along the pass highway.
>
> The photo at http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?id=335261 shows where
> the short trailhead road leaves the pass highway about 0.3 miles west of
> the PCT crossing marker.  The parking lot is maybe a half-mile beyond the
> sign, but I had to stop at that point for obvious reasons.
>
> Enjoy your hike,
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> -Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT ? 1965
>
> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
>
> http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09/
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Ted Williams <drtedwilliams at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > What is the best place to park for a multi day hike at santiam pass?
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:13:56 -0400 (EDT)
> From: hiker97 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Asabats Passing
> To: groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net, michaelblake at gmail.com,
>         mblake1956 at gmail.com, peter at onthetrail.org,
> reinholdmetzger at cox.net,
>         mctrob at yahoo.com, nitnoid1 at yahoo.com, montytam at gmail.com
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
>
>
>  GroundPounderBill writes: To my PCT friends, I don?t like passing news
> like this but if you haven?t heard Bill Jeffrey ?Asabat? has passed away on
> the trail in Oregon, for those of you that didn?t know him that well He was
> one of the Organizers of the Kick Off at Lake Morena each year. He also so
> did the water report for SoCa. And did a Great job. He will be Greatly
> missed. My prayers go out to His Family and all of the trail community.
>  -----------------------------------------
> Switchback replies: I want to pass along my deep sympathy to my pal,
> AsABat's family.  Each year at the Kickoff we sat at my campsite 22 and had
> long talks about everything.  For many years he attacked my site with
> toilet paper and destruction.  It was great fun.  Recently, we had talked
> about retirement at the Kickoff.  Each of us was planning to finally retire
> after many years of work and we both were looking forward to it.  My pal,
> Can'tQuit, and I had hiked with him and Trail Dad up near Lake Tahoe years
> ago.  What a great hike full of all kinds of tricks and fun.
>
> Again, my great sadness for the passing of my friend doing what he loved
> best ---- the trail.
>
> Switchback the Trail Pirate
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:15:40 -0500
> From: Jennifer Zimmerman <jenniferlzim at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Vacuum sealer info and an urgent request
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
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> Hello, PCT community!  I'm a long-time lurker and a first time poster.  I
> wanted to thank the folks that monitor this list and share
> their experiences - you've provided me with many hours of escape when I'm
> not able to get out and hike. My husband and I have dreamed of thru-hiking
> for years now and are committed to doing it next year before the trail gets
> any more crowded.
>
> I hope this isn't too out of line or off-topic, but I have no idea where
> else to turn for assistance at this point.  We have a permit to hike the
> Wonderland trail around Rainier next week and our plans for transportation
> to the park have just fallen apart.  Does anyone know of any Seattle-area
> trail angels or outdoors-loving people who might be willing to drive us?
> We were hoping to get a ride out on the morning of this Saturday, 8/18, in
> order to pick up our permit before starting the hike on Sunday.  Our entry
> point is the Mowich Lake campground with a quick stopover at the Carbon
> River RS to get the permit. This is about 2 hours (maybe less) from
> Seattle. It would be our pleasure to pay for gas, park pass, and any other
> incidentals if you'd like to spend the day hiking for free.  You would save
> us a huge amount of anxiety and money since our only other option is taking
> a cab from Enumclaw, which is itself a long bus ride from SeaTac.
>
> More on-topic - does anyone have experience with vacuum-sealing meals? When
> I have the luxury (because it's definitely not a time-saver) I like to
> dehydrate our food at home.  We tend to carry less weight this way and I
> have more of an appetite for our own meals than for Kraft Dinner or Lipton
> noodles.  After doing some research earlier this summer I bought a sealer
> under the brand name Sinbo.  The big appeal of this model was that the bags
> are not proprietary and therefore much cheaper than those for the
> Foodsaver-type sealers.  However, my googling skills weren't enough to
> uncover many reviews or quality/seal integrity info.  Has anyone had
> first-hand experience with this machine?  I used it extensively in
> preparing our Wonderland food drops and have been happy with it so far, but
> I'm curious to know more.  The only issue I encountered was some pinhole
> punctures and loss of vacuum on some of our more "prickly" meals and this
> was easily solved by double-bagging. I always follow the food threads with
> great interest so I'd love to hear tips about dehydrating/packing your own
> food in general.  Thanks in advance!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:08:15 -0700
> From: "Ground Pounder" <groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] AsABat RIP
> To: <bighummel at aol.com>,        "PCT LIST" <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
> >,
>         "PCTSection at yahoogroups. com" <pctsection at yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: Laurel Buchanan Morin <Laurel9257 at aol.com>, DARLENE RINDAL
>         <dar66 at msn.com>,        Bryan Rindal <eaglesflight05 at msn.com>,
>         tahoe.cat at verizon.net,  Margaret Hansen <marje77 at sbcglobal.net>,
>        Dave
>         Chappman <califdav at aol.com>, Alan Davis <adavis at avsta.com>,
> Rosemarie
>         Davis <noroda at rpmwin.com>, Margean Blake <mblake1956 at gmail.com>,
>         Michael Blake <michaelblake at gmail.com>
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> "How's Your Trail?"  It's hard to write my heading because my trail is Sad,
> but knowing that the "Catholic Church has now a real Trail Angel" makes me
> know that AsABat will still be watching over the hikers on the trail, Bill
> will always be with us in our hearts, think of Him as you hike the Trail.
> Thanks for all You have done for the PCT.     In Christ  Ground Pounder
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Greg Hummel
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 3:34 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] AsABat RIP
>
> We, the organizers of the ADZPCTKO, wish to express our deep shock, sorrow
> and sadness upon hearing the news of the passing of Bill "AsABat" Jeffrey.
> Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and his wife, Cindy.
>
>
> Bill joined the ADZ organizers in the early years of the event and brought
> a
> high energy and deep passion for the PCT to all he did. He handled
> emergency
> communications for the event and showed a cool, calm response to several
> "lost or missing" hiker reports over the years.  He helped with AV, local
> logistics, and many other important aspects of the event, as well as
> serving
> on the board of directors.
>
>
> His innovative online southern California water report brought him a PCTA
> award and recognition.
>
>
> He passed doing what he and all of you love to do; hiking.  He will be
> sorely missed and forever in our memories and prayers.
>
>
> Greg Hummel
>
>
>
> "I'm afraid of nothing and scared of everything"- GNH
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:28:33 -0700
> From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Third gate Water Caches
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Is there no longer disgusting water in the creek at Scissors Crossing
> like there was when I filled my bottles there in '95?
>
> If there is, why does anyone a cache?
>
> Tough it out, just like we did.
>
> Hell, we had to walk 5 miles to school in the blinding snow, uphill,
> both ways! I can't imagine what hardships Strider an the Kelty kids
> had to endure back in the 70s. Those were real men.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:40:10 -0700
> From: Jeff Eckert <jape1 at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Third gate Water Caches
> To: Pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <A6540D68-6BC9-429A-A180-7A9CBFF58018 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hell, with all the fires they've been having around Scissors, the runny
> cow mud ought to be right accessible next year.
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2012, at 7:28 PM, Brick Robbins wrote:
>
> > Is there no longer disgusting water in the creek at Scissors Crossing
> > like there was when I filled my bottles there in '95?
> >
> > If there is, why does anyone a cache?
> >
> > Tough it out, just like we did.
> >
> > Hell, we had to walk 5 miles to school in the blinding snow, uphill,
> > both ways! I can't imagine what hardships Strider an the Kelty kids
> > had to endure back in the 70s. Those were real men.
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:49:23 -0700
> From: Kathi <pogo at pctwalker.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] AsABat RIP
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> It is amazing how someone I didn't really know at all has touched my
> life and his loss has made me so sad. I can think of no better way to
> honor his memory than to contribute to that which he loved so much. So I
> will be making a donation in his name and memory to the PCTA so they can
> continue to do their work to keep the trail what it is and better. I
> would like to encourage others to do the same if you are able.
>
> Huge prayers for his family, I cannot even begin to know how hard this
> is for them.
> Kathi
>
> On 8/13/12 3:33 PM, Greg Hummel wrote:
> > We, the organizers of the ADZPCTKO, wish to express our deep shock,
> sorrow and sadness upon hearing the news of the passing of Bill "AsABat"
> Jeffrey. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and his wife, Cindy.
> >
> >
> > Bill joined the ADZ organizers in the early years of the event and
> brought a high energy and deep passion for the PCT to all he did. He
> handled emergency communications for the event and showed a cool, calm
> response to several "lost or missing" hiker reports over the years.  He
> helped with AV, local logistics, and many other important aspects of the
> event, as well as serving on the board of directors.
> >
> >
> > His innovative online southern California water report brought him a
> PCTA award and recognition.
> >
> >
> > He passed doing what he and all of you love to do; hiking.  He will be
> sorely missed and forever in our memories and prayers.
> >
> >
> > Greg Hummel
> >
> >
> >
> > "I'm afraid of nothing and scared of everything"- GNH
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:17:23 -0700
> From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] I'm back from the Tahoe Rim Trail
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> I bet you didn't even know I was gone, except some of Reinhold's stuff
> that I wouldn't have let through was approved :-)
>
> Thanks to pctplanner.com Craig for looking after the list while I was
> gone.
>
> If anyone wants a short "warm up hike" to try out their PCT
> strategies, I think this is a good hike. There are planning issues,
> mail drops, permits, bears & water issues.
>
> At 165 miles, it is doable in a week at thru hike daily mileages, and
> there is easy exit almost everywhere if things go badly. I was able to
> average 23 miles a day out of the trailhead, with only a few blisters,
> and a loss of 8lbs to show for it. I'm sure the weight will be back
> before the blisters heal.
>
> And I am still in shock about AsABat.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:22:10 -0700
> From: David Thibault <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Asabat?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> The PCT lost a true and great friend.  Thank you Asabat for your love and
> support of the PCT.
> You truely knew how to give back to others in the community  -- You have
> touch many.
>
> Day-Late
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:42:11 -0700
> From: Carl Siechert <carlito at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Third gate Water Caches
> To: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Aww, it wasn't so bad. That's because we did it before the seas had
> receded. By drinking ocean water along the trail, we were able to rehydrate
> and replenish electolytes at the same time.
>
> Kelty
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > Hell, we had to walk 5 miles to school in the blinding snow, uphill,
> > both ways! I can't imagine what hardships Strider an the Kelty kids
> > had to endure back in the 70s. Those were real men.
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:59:41 -0700
> From: Sir Mixalot <atetuna at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Asabat?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
> He is really going to be missed.
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 8:22 PM, David Thibault <dthibaul07 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > The PCT lost a true and great friend.  Thank you Asabat for your love and
> > support of the PCT.
> > You truely knew how to give back to others in the community  -- You have
> > touch many.
> >
> > Day-Late
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> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:03:05 -0700
> From: Jack Cimo <cimoguitar at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Ta's in ashland
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Hello!
>
> I will be in ashland on thursday and looking for a place to crash and take
> a zero day on friday. Are there any trail angels there that might let me
> set up in the backyard or sleep on the floor?
>
> Looking forward to a cool town!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack Flash
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:16:20 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Greg Hummel <bighummel at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Recruiting New Water Cachers!
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
> Apparently I misunderstood, the greater need is for someone to supply the
> Sandy Road cache, that Adrian has been doing.
>
>
> Greg Hummel
>
>
>
> "I'm afraid of nothing and scared of everything"- GNH
>
>
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