[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 45, Issue 18
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Sun Sep 18 15:16:55 CDT 2011
Hi Sierrashade.
The hiker you described is my son, Dropded. I will be picking him up in BC
tomorrow or Tuesday. I will convey your message. I take it he has your
contact info.
Jack Darr
Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
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2. solar panels - useful or not? (Robert Kristoferitsch)
3. Re: solar panels - useful or not? (John Casterline)
4. Re: solar panels - useful or not? (Sir Mix-a-lot)
5. Re: solar panels - useful or not? (John Casterline)
6. Re: solar panels - useful or not? (Sir Mix-a-lot)
7. I'm trying to make contact with a 2011 PCT thru hiker wearing
a panama hat, shirt and tie (Rodney Java)
8. Re: solar panels - useful or not? (Robert Kristoferitsch)
9. Re: solar panels - useful or not? (giniajim)
10. Catnip on the trail (Nathan Miller)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:19:55 -0600
From: JeremyWeaver at softhome.net
Subject: [pct-l] HikerTrash Pacific Crest Trail Workbook
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Are you thru hiking the PCT in 2012? We are looking to gather a dozen hikers
to work with this winter in hopes of creating a FREE-TO-USE Workbook. This
will be a organization tool and contain all the information one would need
to plan a successful thru-hike. If you would like to use this Workbook and
be willing to tell us the honest truth of what you really think, please send
us an email. Include you name, phone number, and age in the email. The first
draft will be sent to the editor mid October. The plan is to print a dozen
copies, and send them out to hikers the following month. We will take the
input and send the second draft to another editor in time for a final print
by the New Year. The only drawback is the dozen volunteers will be expected
to cover the cost of materials and shipping, most likely $8. Once the final
print is made there will be a FREE-TO-USE PDF online and a $8 hard copy
available. We are NOT trying to make a buck, but time is the only resource
that we have. Last year HikerTrash Gear was just a few custom backpacks, we
want to be more. Not less broke, but more helpful.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:57:43 +0200
From: Robert Kristoferitsch <robert at kristoferitsch.com>
Subject: [pct-l] solar panels - useful or not?
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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hi folks!
i will use my Garmin GPSMap62s on my 2012 hike...
with 2AA batteries it will last two days permanent tracking... so I'll need
a lot of AAs
recharging in town needs time I do not have :-(
always buying new ones costs a lot and isn't environmentally friendly :-(
are there some hikers out there using any kind of solar panels?... any
suggestions?
i'll also have a small camera and some journaling device (cell phone)...
thanks,
robert
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:10:05 -0400
From: John Casterline <tnx4asking at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] solar panels - useful or not?
To: Robert Kristoferitsch <robert at kristoferitsch.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I had very good success with Power Monkey. I blogged every night and did my
emails almost every night. I charged my Iphone every night. Total WT = 6
oz ( 3 oz panels and 3 oz capacitor).
To see picture - go to my web site postholer.com/tnx4asking and look at
the Apr 14th entry.
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Robert Kristoferitsch <
robert at kristoferitsch.com> wrote:
> hi folks!
>
> i will use my Garmin GPSMap62s on my 2012 hike...
> with 2AA batteries it will last two days permanent tracking... so I'll
need
> a lot of AAs
>
> recharging in town needs time I do not have :-(
> always buying new ones costs a lot and isn't environmentally friendly
:-(
>
> are there some hikers out there using any kind of solar panels?... any
> suggestions?
> i'll also have a small camera and some journaling device (cell phone)...
>
> thanks,
> robert
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:19:25 -0700
From: Sir Mix-a-lot <atetuna at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] solar panels - useful or not?
To: Robert Kristoferitsch <robert at kristoferitsch.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Is this for geotagging pictures? That's the only reason I can think you need
for a gps to be on all the time since Halfmile already has great tracks and
it's easy to stay on the trail. In any case, you'll already have to carry 2
pairs of AA's...one in the gps and another set in the solar charger. If you
went with rechargeables, you'd need to add a solar charger. If you went
with lithiums, and assuming 4 days between trail towns, you would only need
that second set of batteries that you would have had anyway...and lithiums
weigh less than nimh batteries. If you get an Amazon Prime membership, you
can get free 2 day shipping along with paying much less than in trail
towns. Even the weight of twice as many lithiums would weigh less than a
solar charger.
Now if you plan to keep that camera, AA's and phone charged solely with the
solar charger, you're going to need a very substantial solar charger. One
option is to use a camera that uses AA batteries so you can share batteries
and eliminate one more device to charge. I can't advise much on the cell
phone since I have a very simple dumb phone.
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Robert Kristoferitsch <
robert at kristoferitsch.com> wrote:
> hi folks!
>
> i will use my Garmin GPSMap62s on my 2012 hike...
> with 2AA batteries it will last two days permanent tracking... so I'll
need
> a lot of AAs
>
> recharging in town needs time I do not have :-(
> always buying new ones costs a lot and isn't environmentally friendly
:-(
>
> are there some hikers out there using any kind of solar panels?... any
> suggestions?
> i'll also have a small camera and some journaling device (cell phone)...
>
> thanks,
> robert
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:26:27 -0400
From: John Casterline <tnx4asking at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] solar panels - useful or not?
To: Sir Mix-a-lot <atetuna at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, Robert Kristoferitsch
<robert at kristoferitsch.com>
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NO batteries in solar charger. I had connections to charge almost anything
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Sir Mix-a-lot <atetuna at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is this for geotagging pictures? That's the only reason I can think you
> need
> for a gps to be on all the time since Halfmile already has great tracks
and
> it's easy to stay on the trail. In any case, you'll already have to carry
> 2
> pairs of AA's...one in the gps and another set in the solar charger. If
> you
> went with rechargeables, you'd need to add a solar charger. If you went
> with lithiums, and assuming 4 days between trail towns, you would only
need
> that second set of batteries that you would have had anyway...and lithiums
> weigh less than nimh batteries. If you get an Amazon Prime membership,
you
> can get free 2 day shipping along with paying much less than in trail
> towns. Even the weight of twice as many lithiums would weigh less than a
> solar charger.
>
> Now if you plan to keep that camera, AA's and phone charged solely with
the
> solar charger, you're going to need a very substantial solar charger. One
> option is to use a camera that uses AA batteries so you can share
batteries
> and eliminate one more device to charge. I can't advise much on the cell
> phone since I have a very simple dumb phone.
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Robert Kristoferitsch <
> robert at kristoferitsch.com> wrote:
>
> > hi folks!
> >
> > i will use my Garmin GPSMap62s on my 2012 hike...
> > with 2AA batteries it will last two days permanent tracking... so I'll
> need
> > a lot of AAs
> >
> > recharging in town needs time I do not have :-(
> > always buying new ones costs a lot and isn't environmentally friendly
> :-(
> >
> > are there some hikers out there using any kind of solar panels?... any
> > suggestions?
> > i'll also have a small camera and some journaling device (cell phone)...
> >
> > thanks,
> > robert
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:33:37 -0700
From: Sir Mix-a-lot <atetuna at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] solar panels - useful or not?
To: John Casterline <tnx4asking at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, Robert Kristoferitsch
<robert at kristoferitsch.com>
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I'm pretty sure the gps doesn't have a built in charger, so that means
having a second set to charge while the first set is in the gps.
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:26 PM, John Casterline
<tnx4asking at gmail.com>wrote:
> NO batteries in solar charger. I had connections to charge almost
anything
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Sir Mix-a-lot <atetuna at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is this for geotagging pictures? That's the only reason I can think you
>> need
>> for a gps to be on all the time since Halfmile already has great tracks
>> and
>> it's easy to stay on the trail. In any case, you'll already have to
carry
>> 2
>> pairs of AA's...one in the gps and another set in the solar charger. If
>> you
>> went with rechargeables, you'd need to add a solar charger. If you went
>> with lithiums, and assuming 4 days between trail towns, you would only
>> need
>> that second set of batteries that you would have had anyway...and
lithiums
>> weigh less than nimh batteries. If you get an Amazon Prime membership,
>> you
>> can get free 2 day shipping along with paying much less than in trail
>> towns. Even the weight of twice as many lithiums would weigh less than a
>> solar charger.
>>
>> Now if you plan to keep that camera, AA's and phone charged solely with
>> the
>> solar charger, you're going to need a very substantial solar charger.
One
>> option is to use a camera that uses AA batteries so you can share
>> batteries
>> and eliminate one more device to charge. I can't advise much on the cell
>> phone since I have a very simple dumb phone.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Robert Kristoferitsch <
>> robert at kristoferitsch.com> wrote:
>>
>> > hi folks!
>> >
>> > i will use my Garmin GPSMap62s on my 2012 hike...
>> > with 2AA batteries it will last two days permanent tracking... so I'll
>> need
>> > a lot of AAs
>> >
>> > recharging in town needs time I do not have :-(
>> > always buying new ones costs a lot and isn't environmentally friendly
>> :-(
>> >
>> > are there some hikers out there using any kind of solar panels?... any
>> > suggestions?
>> > i'll also have a small camera and some journaling device (cell
phone)...
>> >
>> > thanks,
>> > robert
>> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
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>
> John Casterline
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:53:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rodney Java <rodneyjava at thestickpic.com>
Subject: [pct-l] I'm trying to make contact with a 2011 PCT thru hiker
wearing a panama hat, shirt and tie
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I'm trying to make contact with a 2011 PCT thru hiker that wears a Panama
hat,
shirt and tie.? Yes, an tie but not sure about the shirt.
Also?has a?braided beard and pony?tail.? I don't think there are more than
half
a dozen that fit that description.
He may have been one of the first dozen or so hikers to peak Whitney and
Shasta
this year.? If you know
whom I'm looking for, please ask him to make contact with me via this list.
Thanks in advance,
SierraShade
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:29:14 +0200
From: Robert Kristoferitsch <robert at kristoferitsch.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] solar panels - useful or not?
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Cc: Halfmile <halfmile at pctmap.net>
Message-ID: <1F9A046F-ECE6-40D2-840E-77DBEA2DC05A at kristoferitsch.com>
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thanks to you all!
great feedback in such short time... love this community!
halfmile, your tracks are fantastic and i really appreciate your work!
my habit is to gps-track all my trails by myself... my personal log.
i always use rechargeables so i'm used to my 2-day-limit.
it's right that lithium ones last longer... haven't thought about it...
thanks!
maybe i'll plant some extra trees in austria to minimize my bad feeling
about filling up the landfill with old batteries.
the next step is to find out how to write my journal and with camera i'll
take with me.
yogi writes that everyone has a kind of luxury items...
mine will be my gps and some extra batteries :-)
so i still hope to become a thru-hiker in 2012 !
cu
robert
Am 18.09.2011 um 02:41 schrieb Halfmile:
> Robert,
> Last time I looked into this (which was a couple of years ago) small
> solar panels didn't really have the capacity to charge AA batteries
> very quickly.
>
> I have done a lot of GPS trail logging and I end up using AA lithium
> batteries. They last about twice as long as alkaline or rechargeables.
> I typically get 3.5 days use from a pair in my GPSMap60CSx and expect
> the new 62 series will get about the same life. As a bonus lithium
> batteries are about 1/3 lighter weight. The downsides are cost (about
> $10 per week) and filling up our landfills with all those old
> batteries.
>
> It could be that something new and revolutionary has come along but if
> I were hiking and serious about GPS logging I would use Eveready
> Lithiums and probably something like this for the other devices:
>
> http://www.newtrent.com/Default.asp
>
> I will be interested in hearing what you decide to do.
>
> -Halfmile
> www.pctmap.net
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Robert Kristoferitsch
> <robert at kristoferitsch.com> wrote:
>> hi folks!
>>
>> i will use my Garmin GPSMap62s on my 2012 hike...
>> with 2AA batteries it will last two days permanent tracking... so I'll
need a lot of AAs
>>
>> recharging in town needs time I do not have :-(
>> always buying new ones costs a lot and isn't environmentally friendly
:-(
>>
>> are there some hikers out there using any kind of solar panels?... any
suggestions?
>> i'll also have a small camera and some journaling device (cell phone)...
>>
>> thanks,
>> robert
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:32:29 -0400
From: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] solar panels - useful or not?
To: "Robert Kristoferitsch" <robert at kristoferitsch.com>,
<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Cc: Halfmile <halfmile at pctmap.net>
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Just a note, don't put batteries in the landfill. They can be recycled.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kristoferitsch" <robert at kristoferitsch.com>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Cc: "Halfmile" <halfmile at pctmap.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] solar panels - useful or not?
> thanks to you all!
>
> great feedback in such short time... love this community!
> halfmile, your tracks are fantastic and i really appreciate your work!
> my habit is to gps-track all my trails by myself... my personal log.
>
> i always use rechargeables so i'm used to my 2-day-limit.
> it's right that lithium ones last longer... haven't thought about it...
> thanks!
> maybe i'll plant some extra trees in austria to minimize my bad feeling
> about filling up the landfill with old batteries.
>
> the next step is to find out how to write my journal and with camera i'll
> take with me.
>
> yogi writes that everyone has a kind of luxury items...
> mine will be my gps and some extra batteries :-)
> so i still hope to become a thru-hiker in 2012 !
>
> cu
> robert
>
>
>
> Am 18.09.2011 um 02:41 schrieb Halfmile:
>
>> Robert,
>> Last time I looked into this (which was a couple of years ago) small
>> solar panels didn't really have the capacity to charge AA batteries
>> very quickly.
>>
>> I have done a lot of GPS trail logging and I end up using AA lithium
>> batteries. They last about twice as long as alkaline or rechargeables.
>> I typically get 3.5 days use from a pair in my GPSMap60CSx and expect
>> the new 62 series will get about the same life. As a bonus lithium
>> batteries are about 1/3 lighter weight. The downsides are cost (about
>> $10 per week) and filling up our landfills with all those old
>> batteries.
>>
>> It could be that something new and revolutionary has come along but if
>> I were hiking and serious about GPS logging I would use Eveready
>> Lithiums and probably something like this for the other devices:
>>
>> http://www.newtrent.com/Default.asp
>>
>> I will be interested in hearing what you decide to do.
>>
>> -Halfmile
>> www.pctmap.net
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Robert Kristoferitsch
>> <robert at kristoferitsch.com> wrote:
>>> hi folks!
>>>
>>> i will use my Garmin GPSMap62s on my 2012 hike...
>>> with 2AA batteries it will last two days permanent tracking... so I'll
>>> need a lot of AAs
>>>
>>> recharging in town needs time I do not have :-(
>>> always buying new ones costs a lot and isn't environmentally friendly
>>> :-(
>>>
>>> are there some hikers out there using any kind of solar panels?... any
>>> suggestions?
>>> i'll also have a small camera and some journaling device (cell phone)...
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> robert
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Pct-L mailing list
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>>> Reproduction is is prohibited without express permission.
>>>
>>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:09:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nathan Miller <erccmacfitheal at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Catnip on the trail
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If you though you had trouble with bears and squirrels trying to get your
food, here's a good reason why NOT to carry catnip on the trail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tklx3j7kgJY
-Nate the Trail Zombie
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