[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 45, Issue 13
Christy Georg
christygeorg007 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 14 10:09:40 CDT 2011
Nina
I'm thru-hiking this year. I use the Tarptent Contrail (staked), and it's a fine tent at 1.5 pounds but I really wish I'd gotten the Tarptent Moment (1.75) instead, it sets up in under a minute. Has a freestanding option, or sets with one pole and two stakes. Its much more robust in wind. Also it's footprint is smaller, for us ladies (I'm 5'4") we don't need a huge tent, my Contrail fits all my gear and its still roomy, and doesn't fit in some tenting spots.
I like the company and they make the lightest tents.
Wandering Dot
Wanderingdot.wordpress.com
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> 1. Re: Pictures from my hike last May near Big Bear (david woods)
> 2. tents: freestanding vs. staked (nina white)
> 3. Re: AFTER ACTION REPORT - Las Vegas Mountains Expedition
> (Hootie Martin)
> 4. Re: tents: freestanding vs. staked (aslive at charter.net)
> 5. Re: tents: freestanding vs. staked (Mike Cunningham)
> 6. Re: tents: freestanding vs. staked (Scott Bryce)
> 7. Re: tents: freestanding vs. staked (Marge Prothman)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:53:02 -0700
> From: david woods <dkwoods33 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pictures from my hike last May near Big Bear
> To: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> The umbrella is a red herring. I am sorry I even mentioned it. The point is
> that it can be cold and wet in Southern California in the spring and it
> behoves hikers to be prepared for such conditions regardless of choice of
> weapons. An umbrella will be adequate for some, a rain jacket for others and
> for a few a helicopter ride to the nearest Starbucks.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <
> diane at santabarbarahikes.com> wrote:
>
>> Go-lite chrome. It doesn't break in the wind. I have found an umbrella with
>> rain pants to work really well. The only place it doesn't work all that well
>> is in Washington. The rain comes up from the ground in Washington.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Jim Keener ( J J ) wrote:
>>
>> Oh ho! The umbrella issue. Again. I've carried one in SoCal and will
>>> again. In driving rain and snow, between the border and Hauser Creek, I had
>>> it open in front of me to block the wind and rain. No skyhook needed. Many
>>> timed. Many times where there was no shade, and I wanted a break, I thought,
>>> "Aha! I have my own."
>>>
>>> Walk well,
>>> Jim Keener ( J J )
>>>
>>> On Sep 10, 2011, at 5:45 PM, david woods <dkwoods33 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I do not intend to insult you or denigrate your accomplishments in any
>>>> way
>>>> but I can play Southern California Ned here for a moment (no offense Ned)
>>>> and say I am not sure an umbrella is appropriate cold weather/rain gear
>>>> in
>>>> an area where high winds are more common than not....unless you have one
>>>> of
>>>> the new cast iron models. I think Switchback is selling those with a sky
>>>> hook option.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:55:38 -0400
> From: nina white <nina.white at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] tents: freestanding vs. staked
> To: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I'm looking into different ultralight tent options. The Big Agnes tent is
> freestanding, but weighs over 2 pounds. Other options: gossamer gear,
> tarptent, etc., are far lighter, but all require staking. Are there
> environments on the PCT where staking is impossible? Is the extra weight of
> the free standing tent worth it?
>
> thanks,
> Nina
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:47:29 -0700
> From: Hootie Martin <hootie2006 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] AFTER ACTION REPORT - Las Vegas Mountains
> Expedition
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> Hey Switchback,
> Nice after action report, but there really isn't much action identified.
> How bout mileage walked during this expedition? Was this a backpacking
> expedition or a car-camping expedition? Hard to tell from your report. So,
> when do you expect to actually begin serious training for your big 2013
> thru-hike attempt?
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:48:41 -0400 (EDT)
> From: aslive at charter.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tents: freestanding vs. staked
> To: nina white <nina.white at gmail.com>
> Cc: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I have used a staked shelter for years mainly because I don't want to
> carry the weight of a free standing tent. If I can not stake down my
> shelter, I lay the stake flat and place rocks on top of it. This has
> always worked well for me even is strong winds, just use more rocks.
> Digging a hole in snow and then covering the stakes with it, also will
> work well. That said, staking is a bit slower and more work than
> setting up a free standing tent. I have never not had enough energy to
> do it but have often wished that I did not have to.
>
> Shepherd
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:55 AM, nina white wrote:
>
>> I'm looking into different ultralight tent options. The Big Agnes tent
>> is
>> freestanding, but weighs over 2 pounds. Other options: gossamer gear,
>> tarptent, etc., are far lighter, but all require staking. Are there
>> environments on the PCT where staking is impossible? Is the extra
>> weight of
>> the free standing tent worth it?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Nina
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:01:36 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mike Cunningham <hikermiker at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tents: freestanding vs. staked
> To: nina white <nina.white at gmail.com>, PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> One of the reasons that I got the Tarptent Rainbow is that it can be set up as freestanding using trekking poles as well as staked out.
> ?
> hm
>
> From: nina white <nina.white at gmail.com>
> To: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:55 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] tents: freestanding vs. staked
>
> I'm looking into different ultralight tent options. The Big Agnes tent is
> freestanding, but weighs over 2 pounds. Other options: gossamer gear,
> tarptent, etc., are far lighter, but all require staking. Are there
> environments on the PCT where staking is impossible? Is the extra weight of
> the free standing tent worth it?
>
> thanks,
> Nina
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> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:33:59 -0600
> From: Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tents: freestanding vs. staked
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> On 9/13/2011 7:55 AM, nina white wrote:
>> I'm looking into different ultralight tent options. The Big Agnes
>> tent is freestanding, but weighs over 2 pounds. Other options:
>> gossamer gear, tarptent, etc., are far lighter, but all require
>> staking. Are there environments on the PCT where staking is
>> impossible? Is the extra weight of the free standing tent worth it?
>
> Even a free standing tent should always be staked down. Tents can make
> amazing kites, even with all your gear inside. And you will encounter
> strong winds along the PCT.
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:55:41 -0600
> From: "Marge Prothman" <marge at prothman.org>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tents: freestanding vs. staked
> To: <aslive at charter.net>, <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I agree with Shepherd on the staking of a tarp. I used the tarp for a lot
> of years. My
> daughter had made it. It was big enough to sleep 3 and our gear. When it
> was freeing
> cold out we even utilized frozen cow pies it there was not enough rocks.
> That worked for us (big grin).
>
> Marge (the old gal)
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> I have used a staked shelter for years mainly because I don't want to
> carry the weight of a free standing tent. If I can not stake down my
> shelter, I lay the stake flat and place rocks on top of it. This has
> always worked well for me even is strong winds, just use more rocks.
> Digging a hole in snow and then covering the stakes with it, also will
> work well. That said, staking is a bit slower and more work than
> setting up a free standing tent. I have never not had enough energy to
> do it but have often wished that I did not have to.
>
> Shepherd
>
>>
>
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