[pct-l] A plan for detouring around the Sierras

Jim & Jane Moody moodyjj at comcast.net
Mon May 23 09:51:13 CDT 2011



For comparisons, in 2010 both the Tuolumne Meadows store and the Red's Meadow store opened on 24 June. 



Mango 



  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donna \"L-Rod\" Saufley" <dsaufley at sprynet.com> 
To: "CHUCK CHELIN" <steeleye at wildblue.net>, "sabra985" <sabra985 at gmail.com> 
Cc: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net> 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:02:36 AM 
Subject: Re: [pct-l] A plan for detouring around the Sierras 

One of the more significant problems for the hikers this year are the opening dates of normal resupply depots.  Right now current forecasts show: 

MUIR TRAIL RANCH                **UNKNOWN** 
VERMILLION VALLEY RESORT        2ND WEEK JUNE 
REDS MEADOW                        JUNE 24 
TUOLUMNE MEADOW                JULY 4 

These dates present something of a problem for the nobos here currently or in the past few weeks who planned to resupply at these locations.  Any updated forecasts for openings are much appreciated. 

L-Rod 


-----Original Message----- 
>From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net> 
>Sent: May 23, 2011 6:54 AM 
>To: sabra985 <sabra985 at gmail.com> 
>Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net> 
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] A plan for detouring around the Sierras 
> 
>Good morning, Evenstar, 
> 
>Without knowing exactly why you consider  – or are willing to resort to – 
>skipping around the Sierras it’s hard to make observations, but I have to 
>guess the high reported Sierra snowpack is the reason.  Why else would 
>someone willingly bypass one of the more scenic sections of the PCT? 
> 
>Historically, the extent of seasonal snowpack along the PCT is a mixed bag 
>as can be seen by examining the May charts from: 
>http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/cgibin/westsnow.pl 
> 
>Note that years’99 and ’11 had high snowpack on substantially the entire 
>PCT. 
> 
>Similarly, years ’01 and ’07 had low snowpack the entire way. 
> 
>Years ’97 and ’08 were high in the Pacific NW and low in most of California. 
>These would have been good years for typical NoBo hikes because most of the 
>NW snowpack would have been mostly down by the time a hiker arrived. 
> 
>Snowpack in ’98 and’05 was low in the Pacific NW and high in most of 
>California.  These years would have been candidates for skipping around the 
>Sierras if a hiker were snow-adverse, or for a SoBo hike.  See the Chris 
>Bailey article below for comments from a ’98 team that pushed through the 
>Sierras in spite of the snowpack. 
> 
>This ’11 season will be a problem for snow-adverse hikers.  While most of N. 
>California, Oregon, and Washington are at lower elevation compared to the 
>Sierras, their being increasingly further north pushes the melt season back 
>on the calendar -- meaning that June in the north will look a lot like May 
>in the Sierras, etc. 
> 
>This year in Oregon seems much like ’99 when I encountered significant 
>snowpack around Hood, Jefferson, and Three Sisters in late August.  For 
>example, on the average Hood gets about 400” of total seasonal snowfall, but 
>this year the total – so far – is 722”. 
>http://www.timberlinelodge.com/conditions/ 
> 
><http://www.timberlinelodge.com/conditions/> 
> 
>Steel-Eye 
> 
>Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT – 1965 
> 
>http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye 
> 
>http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09 
> 
>============================================================ 
> 
>*"Impassable" is a State of Mind* 
> 
>By Chris Bailey* * 
> 
>*1998 ranked among the three snowiest years on record in the High Sierra in 
>the last 25 years. In this article, thru-hikers Chris Bailey and Jenelle 
>Wilhelm share some of their experiences from the trail.* 
> 
>It is no longer news that 1998 was a big snow year on the Pacific Crest 
>Trail. For many ALDHA-West members, it is no longer news that all that snow 
>had a disruptive effect on ‘98’s north-bound thru-hikers. The Gazette’s 
>editor has asked us to provide a little of the flavor of what it was like to 
>thru-hike in a big snow year. 
> 
>First, some background. Jenelle and I set out from Campo on April 26, 1998 
>and finished our hike at Manning Park on September 22, 1998. We became the 4 
>th and 5th hikers to have made it straight through from Mexico. Four others 
>finished in late October, for a total of nine who left the Mexican border 
>and hiked straight through to the Canadian border in 1998. Josh Dhasalear, 
>Jason Lakey and Jonathan Breen finished ahead of us, and Jennifer Pittman, 
>Mark Dixon, Jim Horan, and Graham Johnson behind us. 
> 
>During the winter, we had been following the snow reports from the Sierras 
>and had become increasingly concerned, Poring over the data via the 
>internet, we’d have conversations like, "what the hell is snow water 
>content," and "well, 180% doesn’t seem so bad: maybe it will melt." 
>Obviously, we were in denial. Adding to our paranoia was Ray Jardine’s 
>published advice that if the snowpack was exceeding 200% of normal (which it 
>was in most of the High Sierra during April), we’d be better off to postpone 
>our hike for a year, or failing that, "that you not start until late May, 
>that you prepare to hike many miles of snowpack in southern and central 
>California, and that beyond the High Sierra you press ahead with a will in 
>order to finish before the early-winter snowstorms hit the North Cascades." 
>However, we decided to stick with our departure date: we were too anxious to 
>wait until June and go southbound, plus the idea of hiking home (we live 
>near Stevens Pass) was very appealing. Again, we were in denial. 
> 
>So we read again and again Ray’s advice, which was prefaced with a warning 
>to the effect (I cut those pages out and lost them somewhere) that hiking in 
>heavy snow years was really winter mountaineering and beyond the scope of 
>his book. We just didn’t see how bad it could be. 
> 
>Our first tangible evidence came on our flight from Seattle to San Diego on 
>April 25th. Our flight path took us directly over the High Sierra. We could 
>clearly make out Mono Lake and we’re pretty sure we picked out Mt. Whitney. 
>That was where we were going to be hiking in a few short weeks? We took 
>turns with our noses pressed to the window saying things like, "damn, 
>there’s a lot of snow down there," and "yeah, but most of it will melt 
>during the six weeks it’ll take us to get there, right?" Our state of denial 
>rose to new heights.* 
>* 
> 
>*The Journey Begins 
>* 
> 
>**At 9:20 a.m. on April 26th we set out, excited, nervous, anxious, but 
>confident. There was no snow at Campo – how bad could it really be? In fact, 
>there wasn’t a single patch of snow in the Laguna Mountains, which gave us 
>hope. But there were register entries from a couple of weeks before 
>describing how some PCTers had arrived on snowshoes. 
> 
>It wasn’t until we climbed over the shoulder of Combs Peak (map B3) that we 
>got our first really good look at the San Jacintos. Gulp! Damn, there was a 
>lot of snow there. Somehow we almost convinced ourselves that we were really 
>looking at San Gorgonio, which we’d skirt around anyhow. But no, that was 
>San Jacinto and we’d be there in about 2-3 days. Yeah, but we don’t go over 
>the top, we traverse around a couple thousand feet below. How bad could it 
>be? This is starting to sound familiar, huh? 
> 
>Unseasonable storms ran us off the Desert Divide into Idyllwild prematurely 
>and after waiting for 3 snowy, rainy days in Idyllwild we made our way back 
>to our bail-off point and continued north. My (Chris) journal entries for 
>May 8 - 10: 
> 
>*"Finally left Idyllwild today, getting a ride back to Cedar Springs Trail. 
>Jenelle and I spent last night at the State Park Hiker/Biker site in the 
>rain, thunder and hail.  The weather still didn't look great but we were 
>really itching to get hiking after three nights in town.  Jason and Johanna 
>also squeezed into the van for the ride back.  All day as we continued north 
>along the Desert Divide, we remained in the clouds.  We would occasionally 
>catch glimpses down toward Palm Springs.  North of Apache Peak we hit our 
>first steep snow and broke out the ice axes.  They were definitely required 
>as one slip would have sent us sliding over rocks, cliffs in some cases, and 
>into trees."* 
> 
>*"The majority of the trail today was snow-free but the snowy stretches were 
>tricky. We camped with Kojac and Jason and Johanna near the head of Andreas 
>Canyon. Our stove sprang a leak in the hose (after only eight days of use) 
>and turned into a fireball. So much for hot food and melting snow for 
>water."* 
> 
>*May 9, 1998* 
> 
>*"We spent all day today in the snow. Just after leaving our campsite this 
>morning, we were in deep snow after one treacherous traverse on solid ice 
>(refrozen over night). Tracks went everywhere, but we didn't trust any of 
>them because one set were Brian's, who was lost, and another set was Brian 
>and Martina's, who were lost and another was Lynn and Mike's, who were lost, 
>and another set belonged to a ranger, who was lost. We eventually made our 
>way to the vicinity of Deer Springs, but we didn't know exactly where we 
>were. We ended up camping on top of 10 feet of snow (with no stove). It was 
>a long, hellish day during which we would find the trail only about 10 
>percent of the time and hiked hard all day to cover fewer than ten miles."* 
> 
>*May 10, 1998* 
> 
>*"After waiting for the sun to soften the snow enough to get decent 
>footing,  we made our way across a really sketchy side-hill traverse before 
>finally finding the trail again just below the crest of Fuller Ridge. We 
>were so happy to be on it again, but it soon disappeared under 15 feet of 
>snow on the east side of the ridge. We picked up Brian and Brian and 
>Martina's tracks and followed them to Black Mountain Road below Fuller Ridge 
>campsite. Finally out of the snow, we found a great campsite and made a 
>small fire so we could have a hot meal for the first time in three days."* 
> 
>We continued to have poor weather on and off, all the way to Kennedy 
>Meadows, including an 18-inch snowstorm in the San Bernardino mountains near 
>Mission Creek Trail Camp on May 13th and several other days of really lousy 
>weather. All, I’m told, remnants of the El Nino cycle, which didn’t really 
>release its grip on Southern California until mid-June. 
> 
>*The High Sierra* 
> 
>We arrived at Kennedy Meadows on June 10th and spent four nights there 
>waiting for the weather to improve. By this time, we had decided we were 
>going to make a foray into the Sierra to see what it was like. The vast 
>majority of other thru-hikers had decided by now to skip to somewhere in 
>northern California or flip-flop to Canada and the hand-wringing, nervous 
>speculation, and endless debates about how to proceed had consumed a lot of 
>energy over the past couple of weeks. It had grown to be a nauseating topic. 
> 
>The weather pattern had settled down on the 13th, and on the 14th, with our 
>new hiking partner, Randy (a section hiker who had started at Tehachapi 
>Pass), we headed up the trail. We were carrying six days worth of food and 
>our plan was to go at least as far as Trail Pass and then depending on how 
>we were doing, we’d continue to at least Cottonwood Pass and, best case, 
>continue to Crabtree Meadows and head over Trail Crest to resupply (and 
>decide whether to proceed) in Lone Pine via Whitney Portal. Within the first 
>half-day, we met two nay-sayers who said we didn’t stand a chance. 
> 
>We knew of two hikers who had left Kennedy Meadows heading north ahead of 
>us. One said he was only going as far as Olancha Pass, where he would head 
>for Highway 395 and begin his flip-flop. The other hiker, we knew, was an 
>experienced nordic skier and had skis with him. He was a very strong hiker 
>and we felt certain he was out there ahead of us, which was (somewhat 
>irrationally) a comforting feeling. He was about a week ahead of us at this 
>point. We learned about two weeks later that he had only traveled about two 
>days (to Trail Pass or Cottonwood Pass, I think) before he wisely decided 
>that traveling solo was not a good idea. He later told us he didn’t think 
>anyone would come along to travel with, so he decided to flip-flop. 
> 
>Before setting out from Kennedy Meadows, we had contacted a backcountry 
>ranger at the Lone Pine ranger station. He informed us that while there was 
>100% coverage in the high country, the snow was "bomber," i.e., in good 
>condition for travel. This (and the avalanche danger) was our major concern. 
>We knew we would struggle (post-hole) badly if the snow was unconsolidated. 
>The ranger’s information turned out to be quite accurate. While the PCTA 
>(and many, many others) were telling hikers that the Sierras were still 
>impassable, we found the hiking strenuous and slow, but quite doable. Here 
>is an excerpt from my (Chris) journals describing the conditions from 
>Kennedy Meadows to Kearsarge Pass: 
> 
>*"We encountered out first patchy snow at around 9,000 feet, on June 14th, 
>the day we left Kennedy Meadows. The next morning, traversing around Olancha 
>Peak, we walked on patchy to mostly continuous snow for a few hours (at 
>9-10,000 feet) and had more of the same north of Ash Meadow that afternoon. 
>The following day, we found the same snowpack composition as the day before 
>as we approached Trail Pass and Cottonwood Pass, with solid snow on north 
>and east exposures above 9,000 feet, especially in heavy timber. This 
>pattern continued all the way past Crabtree Meadows to just south of Bighorn 
>Plateau, where the snowpack became pervasive. In all this distance the snow 
>was of a uniform nature: consolidated enough to hike bare-booted, with only 
>occasional post-holing around "warming" objects like rocks and logs. We 
>encountered no sun-cupping yet either, until the north side of Forester Pass 
>in the Bubbs Creek drainage. One nice thing about this southern section was 
>that the southern and western exposures below 10,000’ were often melted out 
>almost completely, so many of our climbs were on bare switchbacks, while our 
>descents (since we’re headed north) were on snow. One disadvantage of 
>spring-like snow is that, especially in timber, the snow falls and drifts to 
>irregular depths, leaving us to climb and descend over miles of one to six 
>foot hummocks – an exhausting proposition."* 
> 
>*"Forester Pass, our first major obstacle and the highest point on the PCT, 
>had worried us for a couple of days. When we first glimpsed it from a 
>distance, it made us cringe. We hadn’t seen any of the advice posted [on our 
>website’s guest book] about Forester and had forgotten about Jardine’s 
>recommendation of a possible alternate pass. When we got close enough to see 
>the six to eight foot cornice at the top, the steep couloir, the avalanche 
>debris, and the snow-plastered switchbacks blasted out of the steep rock 
>face, we decided we weren’t going to risk it, though we weren’t sure how to 
>proceed. As we ate lunch and stared at this problem, the pass just a short 
>distance to the east of Forester (and west of Junction Peak), started to 
>seem like an option, though we only had the topo map to indicate what the 
>north side might be like. The pass had a bare talus slope for the last 100 
>feet and no cornice and didn’t seem unbearably steep, so we decided to give 
>it a whirl. The snow was almost perfect for us to bare-boot up (our only 
>option as we don't have crampons with us and have found little real need for 
>them) protecting ourselves from a fall by self-belaying with our ice-axes. 
>The north side of the pass was steep, but soft and easy to descend."* 
> 
>*"One word here about avalanches. The three of us decided the risks 
>associated with doing Forester and the rest of the passes in the afternoons 
>was reasonably low, based on the conditions we saw and how the snowpack felt 
>to us. There was evidence of recent slides, but mostly of snow coming off 
>very steep rock or pieces of cornices breaking off – both situations we 
>rarely had to traverse under. It also appeared that the majority of the 
>heavily loaded areas had already slid. We saw no evidence of snowfields such 
>as the ones we were regularly traversing triggering, even when they were hit 
>by slides from above. Finally, the slide depositions we saw were very 
>shallow and the one time we actually saw a slide, it was moving about four 
>m.p.h."* 
> 
>*"The snow in the vicinity north of Forester was pretty rotten in the late 
>afternoon, the worst post-holing through this whole section. Otherwise, the 
>snow conditions the rest of the way to Red’s Meadow became slightly better 
>consolidated, vastly more sun-cupped (in meadows and open stands of timber) 
>and deeper north of Silver Pass (we found snow almost all the way down to 
>Red’s Meadow Resort)."* 
> 
>On that first leg from Kennedy Meadows we managed to exceed our expectations 
>and were able to make it all the way to the Kearsarge Pass cut-off, where we 
>headed out to the Onion Valley trailhead to resupply in Lone Pine (where we 
>had sent our drift box). Unfortunately, the Onion Valley road had just 
>opened and had very little traffic on it. We ended up walking about 8 (of 
>15) miles down the road before catching a ride the rest of the way into 
>Independence. 
> 
>After a couple of days rest in Lone Pine, we decided to continue north along 
>the PCT rather than flip-flopping, which we had left open as an option. We 
>made an 8-day leg to Red’s Meadow, where we hitched out to Mammoth Lakes for 
>more rest and resupply. Continuing with my (Chris) journal entries for the 
>passes north of Kearsarge: 
> 
> *"As for the rest of the passes: Glen Pass was steep on both sides, but we 
>took a line to the right, following some skiers' steps and topped out 
>through a band of rocks. It was a pretty easy pass, really, as it wasn’t 
>very exposed. The north side had some pretty rotten snow and a few cliffs to 
>descend around."* 
> 
>*"Pinchot was quite easy as well. We took a line to the right making first 
>tracks. The back side was no problem."* 
> 
>*"Mather Pass was terrifying. The whole pass was corniced, except for one 
>tiny spot above the pass on the left through the rocks. We traversed steeply 
>up the left side, partially exposed to cornices above, crawled through one 
>rock band, climbed steeply up very rotten snow to the next rock band and 
>continued on mixed rock and snow, following (roughly) a skier’s steps over 
>steep rock – quite a challenge! At one point while leading, I sank in to 
>rotten snow with both feet, up to my waist. I was very off-balance (tipping 
>backward on a very steep section) and couldn’t get a purchase on anything 
>with my ice axe (the snow was sno-cone consistency about one foot deep on 
>top of rock). My feet were stuck and I had to get Jenelle to dig them out 
>from behind."* 
> 
>*"Muir, Selden and Silver Passes were very easy and straightforward. In all, 
>the snow has been hard work and has made route finding slow and tedious at 
>times. We saw the trail only briefly, except in the valley bottoms. Patience 
>is the key."* 
> 
>*"We’ve heard there’ve been a few deaths in whitewater accidents from the 
>high run-off so maybe a few words about stream-crossings are in order. We’ve 
>actually had little difficulty with them. A little scouting for a good spot 
>or log goes a long way. The one that sounded the scariest from the guidebook 
>description, Silver Pass Lake Creek ("a hair-raising stream-crossing at the 
>head of a fatally high cascade") was mostly just noisy, but not difficult."* 
> 
>The snowy trail continued in earnest after Red’s Meadow and the snow level 
>actually dropped the further north we went in the Sierras. While there was 
>little snow on the ground in Tuolumne Meadows, there was still plenty in the 
>Yosemite backcountry and all the way to Sonora Pass. Our worst river fords 
>came between Tuolumne Meadows and Falls Creek, where we had several very 
>deep (chest high) crossings. A couple of the guys ahead of and behind us 
>inadvertently swam on one or two of the crossings. Thankfully, we were able 
>to scout for logs on a few of these. A few times we bushwhacked on the 
>opposite banks from the trail for a long way, crossing miles upstream where 
>it was safer. By this time we had become comfortable with not having actual 
>tread to follow. We had very little tread for most of the High Sierra. 
> 
>Our last long stretch of snow wasn’t until shortly before Belden (map M10) 
>at about 6800 feet, though we encountered drifts and snowfields on and off 
>all the way through the Marble Mountain Wilderness in northern California. 
> 
>Despite all the mental stress and hard work, the Sierras in ’98 were 
>indescribably beautiful, vast and awe-inspiring. The physical hardships, the 
>exhaustion, and the frustrations of constant route-finding, were rewarded by 
>solitude, by views that few thru-hikers ever see, and by the reassuring 
>knowledge that we were still heading north to Canada. We wouldn’t have 
>traded the experience for anything, and would suggest that future 
>thru-hikers (with adequate skills) at least consider taking the PCT on its 
>own terms, even when the conditions are difficult. Not that there’s any 
>"right," "better," or "best" way to hike the trail, but there is perhaps a 
>little value in continuity and accepting the challenges of the trail as you 
>find them. 
>====================================================== 
> 
>On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 10:45 PM, sabra985 <sabra985 at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> Due to a number of factors, I've decided to detour around the Sierras. I 
>> know this is sacrilegious to some, but there are factors both within and 
>> beyond my control that make this the most sensible option for my hike. The 
>> mountains will be there, and it means that I get to ENJOY the remaining 
>> 1500 
>> miles of my hike this year without stressing about being able to get home 
>> on 
>> time AND I get to come back next summer. How lucky am I?!? 
>> 
>> For those who might be facing a similar scenario in their own hikes, here's 
>> some information that might be useful for travel planning: 
>> 
>> 1) From Walker Pass, get to Bakersfield (it's rumored that if you hitch 
>> towards Lake Isabella, practically everyone is heading into Bakersfield 
>> anyway, since that's the next big city on 178) 
>> 2) Take Bakersfield Amtrak to Redding (the RABA stop). The train leaves 
>> 4x/day. www.amtrak.com 
>> 3) The Redding Area Bus Authority has two buses, Monday thru Friday, which 
>> run express out to Burney. www.rabaride.com 
>> 4) Hitch from Burney back to the trail. 
>> 
>> Schedule-wise, it looks like it makes sense to plan to stay overnight 
>> somewhere in Bakersfield (and get cleaned up, haha). Be on the 7:15 am 
>> Amtrak, you arrive in Redding at 4 pm, then catch the 5:45 pm bus to Burney 
>> and maybe the guy (or gal) sitting next to you on the bus will give you a 
>> ride to the trail when you arrive in Burney at 7:10 p.m. Hope that helps! 
>> 
>> ~Evenstar 
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