[pct-l] Artificial concern for hikers dealing with snow and water

[Randy Forsland]

So, basically.....you're talking out your posthole when it comes to
thru-hiking ?? Shouldn't you should add that disclaimer to all of your
monday-morning quarterbacking assessments ?? I've listened to your yearly
whining for the last decade..and as a vet of both the PCT and Viet Nam, I
will say the same thing...If you haven't been there then shut the F*ck up..

Redwood

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Scott Parks <public at postholer.com> wrote:

> Hey Randy,
>
> I didn't thru-hike.
>
> I did Campo to McKenzie Pass in '02, May 1st to Aug 4th. Then went back in
> '03 and did McKenzie to Stehekin Jul 17th to Aug 11th. I've yet to do
> Stehekin to Manning. Both years had stellar weather with a few bizarre days.
> In '05 I did Campo to Cajon Pass with lots of snow that year in SoCal. I'm a
> total snow wimp. http://postholer.com/**stillroaming<http://postholer.com/stillroaming>
>
> In '02 I departed KM on June 4th in a lower than normal snow year. The
> longest stretch of snow I had to deal with was over Muir Pass, about 6
> miles. All the major passes had snow, but only the passes. All easy, above
> tree line snow navigation. Only a couple difficult moments.
>
> Unfortunately for this years hikers it's downright awful. Navigating
> through hundreds of miles of snow clogged forest is about the worst hiking
> conditions a thru-hiker will face. I know these guys have had alot of that
> and I can only imagine the frustration they feel. You can hear it in their
> journals.
>
> Starting later would have insured a much nicer experience, even if that
> means not making to Canada before the snow flies.
>
> Scott
>
> On 7/6/2011 7:08 PM, Randy Forsland wrote:
>
>> Points taken..just wondering though..What were the snow levels like when
>> you thru-hiked..Was it ahigh level year or a low ?/ When did you start
>> and when did you finish ? Was the weather in WA reasonable ?
>>
>> I would like to know your experiences..
>>
>> Redwood
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:05 PM, PCT List <pctlist at gmail.com
>> <mailto:pctlist at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    When I read these posts with the aura of great concern for hikers
>>    safety, I just roll my eyes.
>>
>>    If a fraction of this faux concern was exercised in oh, say, March or
>>    April, I'd bet the ranch that many hikers would not have bailed or
>>    flipped (attempted to) or quit altogether. BS? No. Read the journals
>>    of those who departed KM in early June versus those who departed late
>>    June.
>>
>>    Wait.
>>
>>    It is a simple word, a simple concept and the path of least
>>    resistance, and the most overlooked idea  this spring by those who
>>    could have made a difference simply be voicing your respected
>>    opinions.
>>
>>    But that doesn't sell snow classes and of course the party must go on
>>    as scheduled. I really hope some of you learned something, but, old
>>    dogs, new tricks, etc.
>>
>>    -postholer
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