[pct-l] Avoiding humans, snakes, dogs, push ups and trekking poles on the PCT

[AsABat]

California IS an  open carry state but since it IS California of course there are lots of restrictions including the weapon being unloaded. 

But generally I don't see much need for a gun on the PCT.

But please control your dog. A leah is a good thing even if you only use it when approaching unknown hikers. Last year my wife and I had to cut a couple day hikes short because of the number of"friendly" dogs that wouldn't leave our dog alone even after asking their owners. At least parts of California it is the law that a dog be leashed including San Diego County except for some small dog parks.

Dogs and b1cyc1es have a similar problem in that a few irresponsible folk can by their actions result in even more trails being closed to them.

AsABat
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"Ron Dye" <chiefcowboy at verizon.net> wrote:

>California is NOT an open carry state.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
>[mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
>On Behalf Of Tom Hudson
>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 7:53 PM
>To: rob gratz
>Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; abiegen at cox.net
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Avoiding humans, snakes, dogs, push ups and
>trekking
>poles on the PCT
>
>Woah.
>
>I don't know what I did to deserve being threatened with knives and
>guns,
>mate.
>
>I thought the OP was being funny by combining the heated snake-hunting
>and
>the dog-bashing discussions into a single, clever post.  And I honestly
>didn't know that snakes had kidneys.  Perhaps you meant to respond to
>someone else, but you called me by name, and I'm not cool with your
>threats.  I don't care if you're being sarcastic, it's not appropriate.
>
>It sucks you've had such a bad experience with dogs. I don't blame you
>for
>not wanting to share the trail with them.  But perhaps if you didn't
>start,
>end, and continue conversations with both arms swinging, you'd find
>that
>others (possibly dogs included) might treat you with a greater degree
>of
>deference.  I'm a big fan of exercising one's personal rights.  But
>I've
>generally found that those who froth their mouths over it seem to
>thrive on
>conflict with others, as if there were no other way to exercise
>personal
>liberties.  I don't buy it, and I don't like it. It's ok to carry the
>big
>stick, but remember the first part of the corollary is to speak softly.
>Gently, sir.
>
>/Tom
>
>On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:52 AM, rob gratz <hikergratz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hey tom,how about i walk down the trail and shove a knife in your
>back for
>> no reason?im sure you would be fine with that, wouldnt you? would you
>be
>ok
>> with me putting a gun in your face  and then saying"its ok  im
>friendly".
>> but if a dog does it im the bad guy.
>>
>> this might be a good time to get this all out in the open. what is
>the
>> p.c.t. communitys position on unleashed dogs? from all the feedback
>ive
>> gotten, it seems like im the bad guy.and to tell you the truth every
>time
>> if
>> been attacked the dog owners attitude has been"you must have done
>> something".
>>
>> i didnt start this thread to be a troll,i sincerely wanted
>information to
>> not cause problems.you want a troll?is California an open carry
>state?i
>> have
>> the right to protect myself.
>>
>>
>> >
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