[pct-l] First required place for bear canister

Sat Feb 19 17:08:37 CST 2011

Up to 1700 bears per year can be killed by hunting in California.  Last year, 1278 were taken.  There may be 30,000 bears in CA.  Interestingly, "No person may take a bear within a 400-yard radius of a garbage dump".  Mountain lions are protected in California.
FreeRange
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerry Zamora" <gerry0625 at gmail.com>
To: <dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com>
Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear canister

>I don't think you are allowed to hunt them.  I could be wrong 
same with mt
> lions...  they can hunt us though.
> 
Gerry0625
> On Feb 18, 2011 10:26 AM, <dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com> 
wrote:
>> Sounds like CA needs some more bear hunters. We really don't 
have those
>> bear problems in AZ, they are hunted and we have a very 
healthy population
>> of these wonderful animals. Same goes for the 
mountain lions.
>>
>> Just a 
thought.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
-----Original Message-----
>> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net 
[mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
>> On Behalf Of Edward 
Anderson
>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:05 AM
>> To: 
Scott Williams
>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> 
Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear 
canister
>>
>> There are reported resident bears at both 
Joshua Tree Spring and at Golden
>> Oak
>> Spring.  I camped 
at both locations.
>>
>>  At JTS, when I arrived in 2008, as I 
dismounted Primo,  a bear was coming
>> down
>> the hill , 
with resolve, to greet us.  I made a quick decision to
>> immediately 
go
>> on the offensive.  I picked up a couple of rocks and ran towards 
the bear
>> and
>> shouted at the top of my loudest and 
angriest voice - " BEAR, GET OUT OF
>> HERE -
>> GO, GO!"  I 
thru the rocks in his direction.  He turned and ran back up
> 
the
>> hill as fast as I have ever seen a bear run.  I set up camp, put 
out my
> bear
>>
>> charms and had a good nights sleep.  
The water is good there with a little
>> grass
>> for 
Primo.
>>
>> When Jerry Stone and his crew of volunteers fixed 
the flow of Golden Oak
>> Spring
>> early in 2008, they had 
camped above the spring at a place that had some
>> grass.
>> 
He cautioned me that there were problem bears there.  I camped there and
> 
saw
>>
>> none. I had put out my bear charms. Rockstar also 
camped there that night.
>>
>> As far as I know, Bear 
Canisters are not required until you get into the
>> Sierra
>> 
National Parks.  And then only in designated areas. This summer I plan 
to
>> ride
>> SOBO from Sierra City to either Horsershoe 
Meadows or Kennedy Meadows.  I
>> will
>> bring Canisters the 
entire distance and also use OpSaks.
>>
>> Schroomer,  I will 
pick mushrooms and eat lots of trout and think of you.
> 
I
>>
>> will be taking my time.  In the backcountry I cook 
trout three ways:  I
> fry
>> them
>> after coating with 
Shake & Bake (I use peanut Oil),  If I am below
> 10,000'
>> 
I
>> cook them on coals wrapped in aluminum foil,  I make Trout Stew 
-
> delicious!
>>
>> MendoRider/Ed Anderson
>> 
From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
>> To: 
Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; enyapjr at comcast.net
>> Sent: Thu, 
February 17, 2011 9:10:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required 
place for bear canister
>>
>> Plain Slice and Little Engine 
have bear claw holes in the mosquito netting
>> of their tent courtesy 
of a juvenile delinquent bear, because they
> attempted
>> to 
camp at Joshua Tree Spring.  Coolest tent decorations on anybodies tent
> 
I
>> saw all summer as you can really see the spread of the bears 
claws.  It
> was
>> always quite a tourist destination for 
newcomers to our camps who marveled
>> at the holes they had stitched 
up with yarn.
>>
>> Yogi warns against camping here, and 
although you'll need the water by
> that
>> point, and it's a 
really nice looking camp, the fresh bear scat all around
>> was enough 
to make it clear that it is Mr. Bruin's territory, and not
> 
ours.
>>
>> Shroomer
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 17, 
2011 at 6:38 PM, Jim & Jane Moody
>> <moodyjj at comcast.net>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
It's not required, but I suggest you consider picking it up at 
Walker
>>> Pass.  One or more bears hang around Joshua Tree Spring 
and Spanish
>> Fingers
>>> creek, looking for a free 
lunch.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> 
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