[pct-l] To flare or not to flare

[Gerry Zamora]

Altathunder, thanks seems like you get it I jumped in also on this post and
got carried away trying to prove a point.  Hope to see all of you with or
with out your flares.  At the end of the we all have the same end goal.
Gerry0625
On Feb 12, 2011 7:59 AM, "Jim Keener ( J J )" <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
wrote:
> Perhaps we could change "flare" to "flame" in the email message sense.
>
> Jim Keener ( J J )
>
> On Feb 12, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Mike Chapman <altathunder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I also wanted to add that up here in Tahoe,our old growth forests were
>> too much fuel after decades of no fires,that when the big one hit,it
>> was so devistating that it has changed the laws for prescribed
>> burning(more of it). Selective logging and planting is our only "real"
>> solution,so get off your boo hoo poor me a$$es in socal and plant some
>> trees if your so moved by the power of fire. Why do they allow fires
>> to burn in yosemite? Because its natural and needed,are humans
>> natural? Id say so. Now if you want to rip something,ive given you
>> plenty of firepower,rip away,and dont forget,Hike on.
>>
>> On 2/12/11, Mike Chapman <altathunder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I just saw that you started this thread with only part of the post!
>>> Thats some real backstabbing stuff. At least put the whole thing on
>>> there so I dont look like an even bigger idiot,WOW,im truly speechless
>>> for the first time on the list,what a slap in da face,oh well,im
>>> already over it,moving on.
>>>
>>> On 2/12/11, Mike Chapman <altathunder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I have used flares for years,ive never had to lite one,but I wouldnt
>>>> think twice about saving my a$$ with one,and I sure as sin wouldnt ask
>>>> permission. I was just responding to another post,about bringing
>>>> stoves to save your life. I cant beleive the ego of someone trying to
>>>> speak for 18 million people. My friends and family would like to be
>>>> excluded from the list of 18 mill. in socal who dont want me or my
>>>> gear. A box of matches are just as dangerous,no argument needed,just
>>>> common sence,no need to disrespect the brainpower and actions of
>>>> fellow hikers. I thought this was a close knit family. By the way,I
>>>> think Alta-nater is a good name,or stick with my fantasy league
>>>> name,Altathunder. Road-Flare will only bring up this bogus thread in
>>>> my mind,Hike on and try not to belittle your fellow hiker.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/11/11, Brian McLaughlin <brianmclaugh at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> While I see the point you are making, I think you have
>>>>> oversimplified reality, which is much messier than that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Smart people do stupid things. Well-informed people
>>>>> sometimes act ignorantly, or rashly, or impulsively,
>>>>> or out of fear. All it takes to become a stupid person
>>>>> is a moment or two. And stupid actions, once they are
>>>>> done, cannot be undone.
>>>>>
>>>>> The difficulty with lighting a flare is that they are
>>>>> designed to burn hot and not go out once they're lit.
>>>>> You can't hold it until it is burned out, because it
>>>>> would burn your hand. You will have to put it down.
>>>>> In SoCal's dry forests that is just begging for trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you bring a flare, in some sense it means you are
>>>>> intending to use it. Unless you have very specific criteria,
>>>>> for when you'll light it, why you would light it, how you
>>>>> will manage to handle it, and have practised all this
>>>>> beforehand, the chances for screwing it up are too
>>>>> high compared to the harm it could do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just believing that, if you're "not stupid" you can't
>>>>> go wrong seems kind of... er, maybe I should stop
>>>>> there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aimless
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Gerry Zamora" <gerry0625 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "David Thibault" <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] To flare or not to flare
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...stupid people start fires not flares...
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