[pct-l] PCT-L now in forum format/unauthorized taking

[Ken Murray]

Well, no wonder it resonates, I'm also a professional writer and editor.

http://zocalopublicsquare.org/thepublicsquare/2011/08/23/my-doc-says-i-have-heartworm-or-was-it-heartburn/read/nexus/

And people in our category take this stuff seriously, because we know where it leads.  Control of content.  Note that HYOH is NOT Scott Park's philosophy.  He has an agenda to FORCE people into doing what he considers his vision of the correct style of doing this quest, with the correct associated activites allowed (KO-no, HH-yes, water caches-no, haven't figured out if he finds it acceptable to maintain trails------).

 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Doersch" <charles.doersch at gmail.com>
To: "Ken Murray" <kmurray at pol.net>
Cc: "." <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:10:59 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT-L now in forum format/unauthorized taking

Yes, me and my family of hikers who follow these postings daily in preparation for our 2012 thru-hike are concerned as well for many of the reasons listed elsewhere, and the reasons Ken lists here. 

Two of us are professional writers, who get well paid for our work. I intentionally have not added my voice to the postholer site's blogs/conversations -- as I profoundly disagree with his treatment of members of this community on the PCT-L. There's no question (as many of us have noted in previous postings) that he's free to say and act as he will on his own site. But I think he is not free to take my postings and your postings and reproduce them on his site, to his advantage. It's unethical, and possibly illegal. 

~Charles & the Gang 


On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ken Murray < kmurray at pol.net > wrote: 


When I first saw the notice of this, I did not carefully read 
what was happening, but I now realize that there has been an 
unauthorized taking of people's property from this PCT_l list. 
I say property, as anything we write is our property, protected 
by copyright law.  We allow the use of it when we post it here, 
but we do not give it away. 

Normally, this would not be a big deal.  I don't actually believe 
that there is a lot of commercial value to our writing here, although 
it potentially could drive some traffic.  What I do object to, is 
taking something that belongs to someone else, without asking.  That is 
just rude, unethical, and crude.  We have no idea what motive is 
behind this, because none has been stated. 

I do have concerns about someone who has actually demonstrated 
a willingness to suppress other points of view, not in theory, 
but in actual practice.  You will note 
in this "Brave New World" of the PCT_L Board, there will be the 
ability of the moderator to remove a persons post if the moderator 
disagrees with that point of view.  No appeal, no review. 
On the PCT_L   that does NOT 
exist, because once an email has been sent, it cannot be recalled. 
Brick has generally used a "light" hand in moderating, stepping 
in to talk about blocking posting moving forward, but this would 
be different, eliminating the historical record, and there 
would be NO appeal.  His website talks about "the collective 
wisdom of the hiker community", but he runs his website as 
an absolute dictatorship, absolutely.  The PCT_L functions 
as a collective community, the Postholer does not. 

This doesn't feel like a service to the PCT community the way 
this was done, if feels like a takeover of the content of this 
site, to enhance the value of Scott Parks' exclusively owned website, 
and it doesn't pass the smell test to me. 





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