[pct-l] ned asking for clarification from scott.

ned at mountaineducation.org ned at mountaineducation.org
Wed Aug 24 14:52:13 CDT 2011


Hi, Matt!

Thanks for trying to clarify this! Unfortunately, I still don't get it.... I 
guess I'm just dense on this one.

You said, "Another way to say this would be "I will not allow Ned or anyone 
else to use postholer.com resources to encourage the average hiker to enter 
terrain that even Ned and his group bailed on."

Ok. Makes sense.

But my question to Scott still remains, when and where was this terrain that 
my students and I bailed out of that I (or any other person who may use 
Postholer.com in the future) used to encourage the average hiker to travel 
over?


"Just remember, Be Careful out there!"

Ned Tibbits, Director
Mountain Education
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Geis" <mgeis at yahoo.com>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] ned asking for clarification from scott.


Original statement (Scott): "I will not allow Ned or anyone else to 
encourage theaverage hiker to enter terrain that even Ned and his group 
bailed on,
especially using postholer.com resources."

Response (Ned): Refresh my memory, when and where did I and our students 
'bail' out of any
terrain after using postholer resources?"


My read on it: I don't think Scott was saying that Ned bailed out of terrain 
after using postholer resources. My read on it was that Scott would not 
allow anybody to use postholer resources to encourage average hikers into 
dicey terrain.

Another way to say this would be "I will not allow Ned or anyone else to use 
postholer.com resources to encourage the average hiker to enter terrain that 
even Ned and his group bailed on."

It sounds like it came across to Ned as "I will not allow... especially 
after having used postholer.com resources."

Good rule of thumb: re-read before sending and think about how it might come 
across.
Another good rule of thumb: re-read before reacting and think about how it 
might have been intended.

Give each other the benefit of the doubt, people.

Iron Chef
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