[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 40, Issue 55
Sherri Worrell
sherri20 at msn.com
Sun Apr 24 16:05:12 CDT 2011
Hello all,
I will be thru hiking this year and with all the prep I have neglected this forum. I was wondering if anyone had a tally of where one would need crampons. My guide books only make one mention of it. Also looking for when the ice axe is necessary. I have a few spots on my list but I'm nervous I've missed some. And since the guide books are sliced up and inaccessible, I was hoping someone might share the info.
Thanks
Sherri
, 24 Apr 2011 00:27:28 -0500
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> 1. Solio Tip (Melissa Rexilius)
> 2. my last day of wor (david genny)
> 3. Rabid t.Rex's (Melissa Rexilius)
> 4. Re: Sierra mileage (Brandon McGinnity)
> 5. tendonitis...minor injuries (Toby Maxwell)
> 6. Re: tendonitis...minor injuries (Brandon McGinnity)
> 7. Re: TM PO/Store (goslowgofar)
> 8. Re: 1/3 of hikers start at end of April in monumental snow
> year? (Eric Lee)
> 9. Re: tendonitis...minor injuries (Greg Gressel)
> 10. Re: tendonitis...minor injuries (Toby Maxwell)
> 11. Re: cascade locks (David Thibault)
> 12. Re: Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite (giniajim)
> 13. Outrageous Marketing Ploy (Amanda L Silvestri)
> 14. Re: cascade locks (Brandon McGinnity)
> 15. Food in the Sierras (Amanda L Silvestri)
> 16. Re: Trail Angel in Wrightwood (R Johnson)
> 17. Re: Solio (Perry Chamberlain)
> 18. Re: Getting a flight or rental car around Wrightwood/Aqua
> Dulce (Emily Mathews)
> 19. Snow worries (Perry Chamberlain)
> 20. H1000 solio iphone tip (Perry Chamberlain)
> 21. Re: Snow worries (Brandon McGinnity)
> 22. Re: Sierra mileage (Ron Dye)
> 23. Re: bear canister pickup? (Erin Saver)
> 24. Re: tendonitis...minor injuries (Glenn Bradford)
> 25. Re: Sierra Snow Update (Melanie Clarke)
> 26. Re: bear canister pickup? (gwschenk at socal.rr.com)
> 27. Re: tendonitis...minor injuries (Brandon McGinnity)
> 28. Re: Solio Tip (Kolby Kirk)
> 29. Re: 1/3 of hikers start at end of April in monumental snow
> year? (Kolby Kirk)
> 30. Re: Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite (Kolby Kirk)
> 31. Day Late (Kolby Kirk)
> 32. Re: H1000 solio iphone tip (Kolby Kirk)
> 33. Re: tendonitis...minor injuries (Toby Maxwell)
> 34. Re: Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite (Melanie Clarke)
> 35. Re: Outrageous Marketing Ploy and Job Offer (Melanie Clarke)
> 36. Hiker's Oasis in Anza? (Jay Davis)
> 37. Re: Hiker's Oasis in Anza? (AsABat)
> 38. Re: Hiker's Oasis in Anza? (eckert)
> 39. Re: Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite (Thelma Fredricksen)
> 40. Re: Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite (giniajim)
> 41. Re: Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite (Aaron Wallace)
> 42. Re: Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite (giniajim)
> 43. Re: Food in the Sierras (Nathan Miller)
> 44. Re: Rabid t.Rex's (Nathan Miller)
> 45. Melanie & Reinhold (Reinhold Metzger)
> 46. Re: Hand held GPS - update ib Dakota 20 (Tortoise)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:01:16 +0000
> From: Melissa Rexilius <melissa.rexilius at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Solio Tip
> To: <admin at thehikeguy.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>,
> <juniper_canoeman at yahoo.com>
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> I was just looking through all of the different tips that Solio provides and I only see one tip that will work for an iPhone, iPod, iAnything. So, maybe you might want to test out using another USB cable or something. Perhaps it's not the charger, but the cable, or older software. <-- which shouldn't matter at all... I don't know, just trying to think outside the box. Will you be at Kickoff? We can compare there if you like...
>
> t.Rex
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 10:01:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: david genny <bobbers530 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] my last day of wor
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Yesterday was officialy my last day of work I head for campo on the 27th, im too nervous and excited to put into words
>
> -Cheers everyone hike on hope to see u out there-David Stephens
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:10:41 +0000
> From: Melissa Rexilius <melissa.rexilius at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Rabid t.Rex's
> To: <steeleye at wildblue.net>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Steel-Eye, have no fear! I would never pursue you for your pack and food. although I have been known to be rabid...-t.Rex
>
> Good morning, all,We each get to choose what we fear so my fear-pick is being pursued by arabid *Tyrannosaurus rex. *Compared to that grim possibility everythingelse ? particularly the wanderings of our timid black bears ? is reduced toinsignificance.The PCT transits the home range of many thousands of black bears. Very fewof them are ever observed, but be assured that they are probably aware ofyou. Think about all those thousands of bears and the many thousands ofshort, medium, and long distance hikers on the trail vs. the number ofreliable reports of attack resulting from bear aggression. Doom-sayers canpossibly dredge up reports of bear attack ? some possibly from tabloids orshock TV ? but I believe the probability is extremely low. One report Iremember was when a park bear carried off a careless hiker?s food pack. Thehiker chased the retreating bear to retrieve the food when the bear turnedaround and swatted her in defense. A comment about bear psychology: If ahuman has p
> ossession of food the bear will respect that and not aggressivelytry to get it. However, once the bear gets its paws on the food ? literallyand figuratively ? it will actively defend what is then ?its food?. That?swhy the hiker got swatted.My personal opinion is based upon the experience of having slept out underthe stars, mostly alone, in the territory of both wild and park bears,regularly since the mid-1950?s, without once having seen even mildaggression from *Ursus americanus*. I take appropriate measures to securemy food: Sleeping with it in wild bear territory and using a ?can whererequired in park bear territory.Wild bears won?t come near a hiker or a hiker?s camp. Park bears mayapproach camp, but bears don?t want hikers; bears want hiker?s food. Idon?t really care if a bear wanders through camp on its nightly business; Iam very unlikely to even awake.The old, tried-and-true comment that, ?A fed bear is a dead bear? grosslyunderstates the situation. Half ? and probably
> more ? of the problem bearsare females with cubs, and those cubs quickly learn bad habits. If theoriginal habituated bear is killed, likely her cubs will eventually have tobe killed as well. If it takes over two years to find them, then the thirdgeneration must also go, *ad nauseam*.Steel-EyeHiking the Pct since before it was the PCT ? 1965http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eyehttp://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:27:31 -0500
> From: Brandon McGinnity <bmcginnity at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Sierra mileage
> To: gwschenk at socal.rr.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
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> pray for a hot May/June, I guess.
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:26 AM, <gwschenk at socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Wow. There is a slight possibility Tioga Pass may not be open before July
> > according to this chart. That's crazy.
> >
> > http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tiogaopen.htm
> >
> > ---- Jason Moores <jmmoores1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The real worry is the Tuolumne Meadows PO/store.
> > >
> > > While in Independence check out the TM status. If open ship a box from
> > here,
> > > if not push on to Mamm. and check again. At this point if the p.o, isn't
> > > open load up hear to get ya to Sonora. If open you could resupply at the
> > TM
> > > store but it is rather expensive, good selection but expensive.
> > >
> > > Jackass
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Brandon McGinnity <bmcginnity at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Relax.... this is going to be fun."
> > > >
> > > > I'm freakin' out, man!
> > > >
> > > > No, not really. I just don't have experience in high alpine snow, so
> > don't
> > > > know how I'm going to handle it, thus don't know how to plan for it. I
> > > > kinda
> > > > like your ideas expressed in that link. I always lean away from doing
> > > > maildrops, as I'm (obviously) not good at planning. But I figure it
> > sounds
> > > > good to take a chill in VVR, buy enough to get to Red's Meadow into
> > Mammoth
> > > > Lakes, then proceed. The real worry is the Tuolumne Meadows PO/store.
> > If
> > > > that's not open yet with all the damn snow, then what? Can't mail a box
> > to
> > > > a
> > > > PO that isn't open, which sorta screws me, since I have to do all this
> > > > myself, either now or from the trail.
> > > >
> > > > To Bill from VVR, I'm betting I'll be towards the middle of the pack,
> > maybe
> > > > more to the back. Hard to say, but I know I won't be leading it. By
> > > > "stocked" I meant 2 or 4 days worth of food (depending on if I go to
> > > > Mammoth, or straight on towards Tuolumne). Figuring, of course, that
> > 2-4
> > > > days of hiking in the Sierra requires more food than usual. By the way,
> > > > it's
> > > > really cool that you're on here answering questions. I appreciate it.
> > > >
> > > > The real annoying part is that I bought all this food, and am now
> > > > considering just buying as I go at VVR and Tuolumne both, where I'd
> > > > originally planned maildrops. But I don't want to waste this food. May
> > just
> > > > send it to Crater Lake or somewhere up there... hope it doesn't mold :)
> > > >
> > > > Funny... "Kennedy Meadows Day" seems to be July 1 this year. I'm gonna
> > be
> > > > WAY early.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, and yeah, I'll be at kick off. See you there.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Paul Bodnar <paulbodnar at hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Relax.... this is going to be fun.
> > > > >
> > > > > To answer your question about snow levels.
> > > > > Does this look like a heavy snow year? Yes, but things can and will
> > > > > change.
> > > > >
> > > > > Last year (April 2010) 62.5 inches at Big Horn Plateau (BGH)
> > > > > This year (April 2011) 106.0 inches at BGH
> > > > >
> > > > > All the other years can viewed plotted next to each other at
> > > > > http://hikethru.com/about-the-pct/high-sierra-snow-pack
> > > > >
> > > > > It is hard to predict what you will experience. Snow levels change
> > > > rapidly
> > > > > depending on many weather factors. This data should be just looked
> > at
> > > > from
> > > > > a factual point of view.
> > > > >
> > > > > To answer your resupplying problems, check out what I did, link
> > below.
> > > > > This might or not work out for you but it worked great for me. And I
> > > > have
> > > > > hiked the trail twice...the first time getting my packages mailed to
> > me,
> > > > > which was very stressful on the mailer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://pct.mvmdata.com/forum/38-planning-your-hike/52-resupply-mail-as-you-go
> > > > >
> > > > > In summary, just relax, enjoy the hike, and try to separate the fear
> > from
> > > > > the facts.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have any other questions or concerns I would be happy to help
> > out.
> > > > > Are you going to the Kick Off event?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tangent
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ~ Moccasin
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 13:45:04 -0400
> From: Toby Maxwell <toby.m.maxwell at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] tendonitis...minor injuries
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I was just told by the doctor that I have some very minor tendonitis in my
> right ankle area, its from playing ultimate frisbee a lot. He said 10 days
> ( i have 20 till I start) should take care of most of the healing. Has
> anyone ever had to deal with tendonitis on the trail? the orthopedist seemed
> to think it'd not be an issue especially because I have some time to heal.
> Just curious, at this point I'm just gonna listen to my body. I don't want
> to subscribe to the vortex of fear, but naturally its not the best news!
>
> -Toby
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:57:06 -0500
> From: Brandon McGinnity <bmcginnity at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tendonitis...minor injuries
> To: Toby Maxwell <toby.m.maxwell at gmail.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Haha, oooooh yes. Been there. I pulled my Achiles going too fast down a
> mountain on the AT, and hiked for weeks waiting for that to heal. Thanks to
> the limping, I got miserable tendonitis on the top of the other foot, from
> the compensation I guess. That hurt for an additional several weeks. If I'd
> rested things might have been easier, but I just grit my teeth and kept
> walking (limping, as it were). I'm stubborn. And maybe a little stupid.
>
> If you have 20 days to rest some minor tendonitis, I'd say you're golden.
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Toby Maxwell <toby.m.maxwell at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > I was just told by the doctor that I have some very minor tendonitis in my
> > right ankle area, its from playing ultimate frisbee a lot. He said 10 days
> > ( i have 20 till I start) should take care of most of the healing. Has
> > anyone ever had to deal with tendonitis on the trail? the orthopedist
> > seemed
> > to think it'd not be an issue especially because I have some time to heal.
> > Just curious, at this point I'm just gonna listen to my body. I don't want
> > to subscribe to the vortex of fear, but naturally its not the best news!
> >
> > -Toby
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> --
> ~ Moccasin
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:18:19 -0700 (PDT)
> From: goslowgofar <goslowgofar at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] TM PO/Store
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> And don't forget the burritos at the Mono Market.? Lee Vining is worth the
> hitch!
> Katy
> ?
> GoSlowGoFar
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> ---?"gwschenk at socal.rr.com" gwschenk at socal.rr.com wrote:
> Whoa Nellie is OK if you want to see and be seen. The Mono Cone is where it's
> really at in Lee Vining. And always worth the stop!
>
> ---- AsABat <asabat at 4jeffrey.net> wrote:
> > Whoa Nellie!
> For those that don't know,? that's the gourmet deli inside the gas station in
> Lee Vining. Best food in town,? great view of Mono Lake,? all in a gas station.
>
>
> AsABat
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:31:29 -0700
> From: Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] 1/3 of hikers start at end of April in monumental
> snow year?
> To: "'Cosmic Cat'" <cosmic.cat144 at gmail.com>, "'Jim & Jane Moody'"
> <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, 'PCT List' <pctlist at gmail.com>
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> Goodness wrote:
> >
> I am afraid of snow. Not afraid of big miles in norcal. Pushed start date to
> may 16.
> >
>
> As Steel-Eye just said, everyone gets to pick their own fear. Personally,
> I'm more afraid of scorching desert heat than I am of snow in the Sierra, so
> if I were thru-hiking this year (which I'm not, tragically), I'd probably
> still start in April. Snow is just one factor in a many-part equation and
> when you consider everything all together, starting mid-to-late April makes
> a lot of sense in almost any year. Scott's numbers don't surprise me one
> bit and I continue to believe they'd be largely the same with or without
> ADZPCTKO. But starting later this year is also a reasonable strategy so if
> that is what makes you comfortable, go for it.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 14:45:11 -0400
> From: Greg Gressel <jumpfrom15000 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tendonitis...minor injuries
> To: Brandon McGinnity <bmcginnity at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <8BF7AD53-BCF3-45CF-AEC7-E29ED0D2A8B1 at yahoo.com>
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> I'm in the same boat with sore ankle. I injured it on a long day hike and after waiting two weeks had more problems last weekend on a 30 mile day i have four weeks to heal and will do very little until I leave. I go to the orthopedic doc on Tuesday. Hope your recover goes well.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 23, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Brandon McGinnity <bmcginnity at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Haha, oooooh yes. Been there. I pulled my Achiles going too fast down a
> > mountain on the AT, and hiked for weeks waiting for that to heal. Thanks to
> > the limping, I got miserable tendonitis on the top of the other foot, from
> > the compensation I guess. That hurt for an additional several weeks. If I'd
> > rested things might have been easier, but I just grit my teeth and kept
> > walking (limping, as it were). I'm stubborn. And maybe a little stupid.
> >
> > If you have 20 days to rest some minor tendonitis, I'd say you're golden.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Toby Maxwell <toby.m.maxwell at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I was just told by the doctor that I have some very minor tendonitis in my
> >> right ankle area, its from playing ultimate frisbee a lot. He said 10 days
> >> ( i have 20 till I start) should take care of most of the healing. Has
> >> anyone ever had to deal with tendonitis on the trail? the orthopedist
> >> seemed
> >> to think it'd not be an issue especially because I have some time to heal.
> >> Just curious, at this point I'm just gonna listen to my body. I don't want
> >> to subscribe to the vortex of fear, but naturally its not the best news!
> >>
> >> -Toby
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 14:53:58 -0400
> From: Toby Maxwell <toby.m.maxwell at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tendonitis...minor injuries
> To: Greg Gressel <jumpfrom15000 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Thanks! its good to hear (from brandon) that its something that is
> hike-offable in some sense. I'm just gonna be optimistic because...why not!
> Good luck to you as well greg, I'm doing my best to not worry. I hope the
> doctor brings good news to you.
>
> -Toby
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Greg Gressel <jumpfrom15000 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> > I'm in the same boat with sore ankle. I injured it on a long day hike and
> > after waiting two weeks had more problems last weekend on a 30 mile day i
> > have four weeks to heal and will do very little until I leave. I go to the
> > orthopedic doc on Tuesday. Hope your recover goes well.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Apr 23, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Brandon McGinnity <bmcginnity at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Haha, oooooh yes. Been there. I pulled my Achiles going too fast down a
> > > mountain on the AT, and hiked for weeks waiting for that to heal. Thanks
> > to
> > > the limping, I got miserable tendonitis on the top of the other foot,
> > from
> > > the compensation I guess. That hurt for an additional several weeks. If
> > I'd
> > > rested things might have been easier, but I just grit my teeth and kept
> > > walking (limping, as it were). I'm stubborn. And maybe a little stupid.
> > >
> > > If you have 20 days to rest some minor tendonitis, I'd say you're golden.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Toby Maxwell <toby.m.maxwell at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> I was just told by the doctor that I have some very minor tendonitis in
> > my
> > >> right ankle area, its from playing ultimate frisbee a lot. He said 10
> > days
> > >> ( i have 20 till I start) should take care of most of the healing. Has
> > >> anyone ever had to deal with tendonitis on the trail? the orthopedist
> > >> seemed
> > >> to think it'd not be an issue especially because I have some time to
> > heal.
> > >> Just curious, at this point I'm just gonna listen to my body. I don't
> > want
> > >> to subscribe to the vortex of fear, but naturally its not the best news!
> > >>
> > >> -Toby
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:54:48 -0700
> From: David Thibault <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] cascade locks
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=wcXUTHqo=Y_5WNXLoaQ-6oXf0cQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> One of the great unexpected things about doing these long trails is just how
> great hikers get treated.
>
> It is a very rare, and I would imagine a truly sad, hiker that can come off
> one of these long hikes without a renewed faith in the generosity and
> humanity of his fellow man. What a great bonus to add to a great wilderness
> experience!
>
> Day-Late
>
> >
> > There's a post office in town and some nice people running it. I had a box
> > shipped priority, as my shoes were falling off my feet, and the gal at the
> > desk couldn't find it with all the hiker stuff. I was staying in Hood
> > River, the next town down, so I took off with friends, and shortly
> > thereafter the worker found it in a special stack she had made to make sure
> > she could find things for priority customers. She and her boss were so
> > distraught at not getting a hiker his box, that she took off with the box
> > and hit the campground and every bar and motel in town, figuring that's
> > where I'd be, and were really bummed that they couldn't find me. It was no
> > great shakes for me as I picked it up the next day, but the apologies went
> > on for a long time. Great folks in a little town, who really cared about a
> > lone hiker and his gear enough to scour a town to find me. I'd mail
> > something there again if I was going through just to say hi to them.
> >
> > Needless to say, most hikers just used the post office to mail stuff there.
> >
> >
> > .
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 15:04:36 -0400
> From: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
> To: "PCT" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <552E8530025F49EDA6C5B86EE07B212D at HomePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> That's a good link. Try this one also which covers camping anywhere else. (this info might have been posted earlier; sorry for any duplication).
>
> "Do I have to camp in designated campsites?
> No, in the vast majority of the park. Only at the five High Sierra Camps and in the Little Yosemite Valley area must you camp at a designated site. Otherwise you may camp anywhere you like, provided you follow all the regulations listed above." http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/wildregs.htm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gwschenk at socal.rr.com
> To: PCT ; Guthrie Nutter
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
>
>
> http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/bpcamp.htm
>
> HTH
>
> ---- Guthrie Nutter <guthrie.nutter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > What's the story about non-reserved camping along the JMT from TM to
> > Yosemite?
> >
> > Been on the phone, trying to get a live person to help me - getting a lot of
> > mixed messages. Need insight about where I can actually CAMP. Getting the
> > impression that TM, even Glen Aulin is a reservation only campground. Is
> > this so? Would this mean I'd have to barrel in from Vogelsang, and then run
> > out TM to pick up my resupply and try to get as far as possible all in the
> > same day...? Weird. Was hoping to check out Yosemite, but with all these
> > new 2011 rules and rangers, it sounds like a police state. Against my inner
> > child's wishes, I'm considering on ditching it.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > www.guthrienutter.com
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:07:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Amanda L Silvestri <aslive at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Outrageous Marketing Ploy
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <380608.44951.qm at web80804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Ahhhh... Dehydrated Water.? I've been waiting hundreds of years for this!? Now i can take a shower in the desert.
> ?
> Shepherd
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 14:11:01 -0500
> From: Brandon McGinnity <bmcginnity at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] cascade locks
> To: David Thibault <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BANLkTin6J9fb1Bdo2=o9byfjZo9bzo5eDA at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Truth. I just don't want to be the jerk out there by not knowing "protocol",
> haha. I'm going with the PO.
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:54 PM, David Thibault <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > One of the great unexpected things about doing these long trails is just
> > how
> > great hikers get treated.
> >
> > It is a very rare, and I would imagine a truly sad, hiker that can come off
> > one of these long hikes without a renewed faith in the generosity and
> > humanity of his fellow man. What a great bonus to add to a great
> > wilderness
> > experience!
> >
> > Day-Late
> >
> > >
> > > There's a post office in town and some nice people running it. I had a
> > box
> > > shipped priority, as my shoes were falling off my feet, and the gal at
> > the
> > > desk couldn't find it with all the hiker stuff. I was staying in Hood
> > > River, the next town down, so I took off with friends, and shortly
> > > thereafter the worker found it in a special stack she had made to make
> > sure
> > > she could find things for priority customers. She and her boss were so
> > > distraught at not getting a hiker his box, that she took off with the box
> > > and hit the campground and every bar and motel in town, figuring that's
> > > where I'd be, and were really bummed that they couldn't find me. It was
> > no
> > > great shakes for me as I picked it up the next day, but the apologies
> > went
> > > on for a long time. Great folks in a little town, who really cared about
> > a
> > > lone hiker and his gear enough to scour a town to find me. I'd mail
> > > something there again if I was going through just to say hi to them.
> > >
> > > Needless to say, most hikers just used the post office to mail stuff
> > there.
> > >
> > >
> > > .
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>
>
> --
> ~ Moccasin
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:13:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Amanda L Silvestri <aslive at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Food in the Sierras
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <278123.44678.qm at web80808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>
> I beleave that you need a beat canister around the Rea Lakes too.
> ?
> Shepherd
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:37:58 -0700
> From: R Johnson <rdukes412 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail Angel in Wrightwood
> To: <naps.on.trail at gmail.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BLU157-w10228321E161F0593089B4E6940 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> I don't know how I missed your message about trail angels in Wrightwood last week. But there is a list at the hardware store in town if you're still looking for info. If you need info from that list ahead of time, you can call Mtn Hardware at (760) 249-3653 and they're usually pretty good about giving you a few numbers from the list. Otherwise, be sure to stop in there when you get into town and give someone a call. Many will host hikers and many give rides to and from the trail or even to other cities for shopping. Wrightwood is close to I-15 by driving distance so generally WW trail angels can help out between Big Bear and here and some travel west towards Palmdale as well. We're on that list, so let me know if you need anything. We'll be a little less available than previous years but you can always give us a call to see.
>
>
>
>
> ~Becky Johnson
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:40:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Perry Chamberlain <juniper_canoeman at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio
> To: Kolby Kirk <admin at thehikeguy.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <258820.46032.qm at web121209.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> The tip you need is the usb port replicator tip, needed for the newer iphone and And ipod touch.
> It is different from the standard ipod tip.
> The reason is the h1000 can put out up to twelve volts, and a tip or cable that can lower the voltage to usb voltage of 5.5 volts is required for the newer iphones.
> Contact solio, they sell it.
> Good luck.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:56:34 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Emily Mathews <emmat at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Getting a flight or rental car around
> Wrightwood/Aqua Dulce
> To: R Johnson <rdukes412 at hotmail.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <312612.49745.qm at web121109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> The support from this list is amazing! Thanks so much. Seems like there are a
> lot of options! As we get closer .. I guess we can figure out the best option.
> The show of support ..It really warms my heart ..
>
> Half Step
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: R Johnson <rdukes412 at hotmail.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Fri, April 22, 2011 11:46:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Getting a flight or rental car around Wrightwood/Aqua Dulce
>
>
>
> If you're in Wrightwood at that point, there are various people in town here
> (myself included) who would have no problem driving you down to Ontario Airport.
> Ontario has plenty of flights to the Bay Area and is one of the easiest to fly
> out of /into. Just let me know!
> Becky
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> Message: 19
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:58:17 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Perry Chamberlain <juniper_canoeman at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Snow worries
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <129696.85207.qm at web121204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I think if you are worried about the deep snow, just delay a little behind the main herd, and you should be able to just use the corpses and discarded packs and items, of the brave can-do early birds, as a kind of board walk through the really bad areas.
> Plus there will be food and goodies in their packs, and free phones.
> Just think of it as the DONNER PARTY 2.0. Tender subject, medium well done.
> See, theres always a silver lining in every problem.
> ;->
> We will know if it works if the new motto of the sierras this year is, "hey check it out, this fits me, and its in my favourite color"
> Just consider the corpses as modified hiker boxes with free goodies.
>
> Naughty, but still the canoeman
>
> :-)
>
> be nice.........
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 13:42:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Perry Chamberlain <juniper_canoeman at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] H1000 solio iphone tip
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <633575.35153.qm at web121208.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Here is the tip you need for the iphone 3g and ipod itouch
> http://www.amazon.com/Solio-H1000-Classic-Adapter-iPhone/dp/B002P54PQI/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_3
> Canoeman
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 16:22:23 -0500
> From: Brandon McGinnity <bmcginnity at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Snow worries
> To: Perry Chamberlain <juniper_canoeman at yahoo.com>,
> pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BANLkTik0Lb+RXV6iPrBHN5e4pu53JnVXVg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I just laughed so hard I farted, drawing stares and giggles from the other
> patrons of this Starbucks. Thanks for the chuckle :)
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Perry Chamberlain <
> juniper_canoeman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I think if you are worried about the deep snow, just delay a little behind
> > the main herd, and you should be able to just use the corpses and discarded
> > packs and items, of the brave can-do early birds, as a kind of board walk
> > through the really bad areas.
> > Plus there will be food and goodies in their packs, and free phones.
> > Just think of it as the DONNER PARTY 2.0. Tender subject, medium well
> > done.
> > See, theres always a silver lining in every problem.
> > ;->
> > We will know if it works if the new motto of the sierras this year is, "hey
> > check it out, this fits me, and its in my favourite color"
> > Just consider the corpses as modified hiker boxes with free goodies.
> >
> > Naughty, but still the canoeman
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > be nice.........
> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 14:39:30 -0700
> From: "Ron Dye" <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Sierra mileage
> To: "'Vermilion Valley Resort'" <pct-l at edisonlake.com>, "'Diane Soini
> of Santa Barbara Hikes'" <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <952A2F9C4C0644829A4D1E7081F37B8D at RonPC>
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>
> Okay guys. This is it - the end. Heading out at 0430 for Campo and will be
> on the trail 6 am or so. Enjoyed all your information, humor, suggestions,
> ideas and even the occasional rant.
>
> See you on the trail.
>
> Ron "Burning Daylight" Dye
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Vermilion Valley Resort
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:27 AM
> To: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Sierra mileage
>
> And don't forget - everyone will help you. EVERYONE. From your fellow
> hikers, to trail angels, to folks like the employees at VVR, and even
> the folks at Tuolumne.
>
> It may be YOUR first time, but we've been doing it for years. I know
> it's easy to think you're all alone when you're out in the middle of
> that snowpack - but you're not.
>
> And as Diane says, if you're in the middle of the pack, you're golden.
> And she's got a really good point - if the snow's too bad, you just skip
> the snow!
>
> Bill
>
>
> Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes wrote:
> > On Apr 22, 2011, at 7:49 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> >> I'm freakin' out, man!
> >>
> >> The real worry is the Tuolumne Meadows PO/store. If
> >> that's not open yet with all the damn snow, then what? Can't mail a
> >> box to a
> >> PO that isn't open, which sorta screws me, since I have to do all this
> >> myself, either now or from the trail.
> >>
> >> To Bill from VVR, I'm betting I'll be towards the middle of the
> >> pack, maybe
> >> more to the back.
> >
> > Well, then, if you are in the middle or back of the pack, you have
> > nothing to worry about. The PO will be open. There will be a bus to
> > take you to Bridgeport or Yosemite Valley. If there aren't any of
> > these things, you've got thumbs. Everything will be just fine. Worst
> > case scenario is you don't deal well with the snow and you bounce
> > yourself up to Sonora Pass from somewhere and carry on. That's what I
> > did. Came back another year to finish the Sierra in a more gentle
> > month: August!
> >
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> Message: 23
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 14:50:43 -0700
> From: Erin Saver <erinsaver at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] bear canister pickup?
> To: Annie Mac <mac5attack at hotmail.com>
> Cc: PCT list <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> It's okay if I pick up my Bear Canister in Lone Pine instead, right? I was
> hoping that would give me 2 more days without the extra weight.
> -Erin
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Annie Mac <mac5attack at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > so, I'm doing all my last minute stuff, and just want a little validation
> > that having my bear canister sent to kennedy meadows is the right call?
> > Along with my ice axe and microspikes that I will bounce forward after
> > so.cal?
> >
> > annie
> >
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> Message: 24
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 16:56:31 -0500
> From: Glenn Bradford <glenn.bradford at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tendonitis...minor injuries
> To: Toby Maxwell <toby.m.maxwell at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=RCTugGG+fMGwRkMKWXfoEMWvnVw at mail.gmail.com>
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> You can definitely do some things to help too...
>
> Find the exact sore spot and give it a good rub - don't injure it
> more, but definitely give it a little pressure and movement. You're
> trying to get circulation into the area, and especially into the
> tendons which don't cycle blood that well. When you're done, put
> something cool on it - a water bottle, a splash of water, a slurpee,
> whatever. If you're near a coldish water source, soak it until it's
> numb to the touch. That cooling then warming back up flushes a lot of
> crapp out of the area of the injury.
>
> Also, if you know it's safe for you, definitely take some Ibuprofen to
> get the swelling down so that it can heal. It's vitamin I after all!
>
> Sounds like it can tolerate it, but injuries like that should be
> lightly stretched a couple times a day if it can be done with only
> mild pain. If the pain is mild and stays that way, definitely stay on
> it, just take it easy on the injury area if you have that option. The
> cool down the area injury like I described above.
>
> If you can't cool it down, then just try rubbing and working the
> *other* ankle. Sounds weird, but there's a lot of research that shows
> sympathetic treatment of your body on the side opposite the injury can
> help you heal 30% faster.
>
> Last thing, make sure your calf and knee are stretched out on both
> sides. In massage therapy, the saying is the ankle starts at the knee.
> Keeping all that stretched will take pressure off those tendons.
>
> Oh, the other last thing, slightly elevate it at night if you can,
> that will also keep the are flushed out.
>
> Have a great hike!
>
> Glenn
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Toby Maxwell <toby.m.maxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks! its good to hear (from brandon) that its something that is
> > hike-offable in some sense. ?I'm just gonna be optimistic because...why not!
> > Good luck to you as well greg, ?I'm doing my best to not worry. ?I hope the
> > doctor brings good news to you.
> >
> > -Toby
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Greg Gressel <jumpfrom15000 at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I'm in the same boat with sore ankle. I injured it on a long day hike and
> >> after waiting two weeks had more problems last weekend on a 30 mile day ?i
> >> have four weeks to heal and will do very little until I leave. I go to the
> >> orthopedic doc on Tuesday. Hope your recover goes well.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Apr 23, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Brandon McGinnity <bmcginnity at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Haha, oooooh yes. Been there. I pulled my Achiles going too fast down a
> >> > mountain on the AT, and hiked for weeks waiting for that to heal. Thanks
> >> to
> >> > the limping, I got miserable tendonitis on the top of the other foot,
> >> from
> >> > the compensation I guess. That hurt for an additional several weeks. If
> >> I'd
> >> > rested things might have been easier, but I just grit my teeth and kept
> >> > walking (limping, as it were). I'm stubborn. And maybe a little stupid.
> >> >
> >> > If you have 20 days to rest some minor tendonitis, I'd say you're golden.
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Toby Maxwell <toby.m.maxwell at gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I was just told by the doctor that I have some very minor tendonitis in
> >> my
> >> >> right ankle area, its from playing ultimate frisbee a lot. ?He said 10
> >> days
> >> >> ( i have 20 till I start) should take care of most of the healing. ?Has
> >> >> anyone ever had to deal with tendonitis on the trail? the orthopedist
> >> >> seemed
> >> >> to think it'd not be an issue especially because I have some time to
> >> heal.
> >> >> Just curious, at this point I'm just gonna listen to my body. ?I don't
> >> want
> >> >> to subscribe to the vortex of fear, but naturally its not the best news!
> >> >>
> >> >> -Toby
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > ~ Moccasin
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 15:40:55 -0700
> From: Melanie Clarke <melaniekclarke at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Sierra Snow Update
> To: hiker97 at aol.com
> Cc: losthiker at sisqtel.net, reinholdmetzger at cox.net,
> montedodge at msn.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BANLkTikU5cy8UYvMswSeojS0=CFRa+gJWg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Dear Reinhold, Switchback,
>
> Okay okay, I've counted to ten and I've calmed down. Please understand that
> I have been dealing with some very emotional issues this winter which tends
> to make me hit the comfort food. Let's just say that I'm a little touchy
> because I will be bringing about 5 lbs more "pirate booty" to camp #22 this
> year. So be sensitive before making me the "butt" of the jokes! I hope to
> make those 5 extra pounds of "pirate booty" disappear along the trail.
>
> Melanie
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:43 AM, <hiker97 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Scarecrow Reinhold writes: And please Melanie and Sugar Moma,......don't
> > throw me into Lake Morena at 5 in the morning. The water will be cold and
> > I am not well insulated like Switchback......I'm just a lean hiking
> > machine.....I will be freezing. Stick with the original plan....throw
> > Switchback in the lake....he has more insulation.
> >
> > Switchback has so much insulation, he could hike naked at the North Pole
> > and not feel the cold.
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Switchback replies: It will be very hard to throw me in anything. I will
> > be warm in my kingsize motel bed Saturday and Sunday mornings. I don't need
> > any insulation while I am relaxing surrounded by down pillows and
> > comforter.
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:24:11 +0000
> From: <gwschenk at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] bear canister pickup?
> To: Annie Mac <mac5attack at hotmail.com>, Erin Saver
> <erinsaver at gmail.com>
> Cc: PCT list <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <20110423232412.D35MI.222385.root at hrndva-web23-z02>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> ---- Erin Saver <erinsaver at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's okay if I pick up my Bear Canister in Lone Pine instead, right? I was
> > hoping that would give me 2 more days without the extra weight.
>
> That depends on how you get to Lone Pine. I think they are required in the Whitney Zone. If you get a ride from Horseshoe Meadows, you'd be OK.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:02:26 -0500
> From: Brandon McGinnity <bmcginnity at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tendonitis...minor injuries
> To: Glenn Bradford <glenn.bradford at gmail.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=3Rfukbeh0Vh6w-2ifBsQM1OPXMQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Excellent advice, Glenn! I didn't know that about the sympathetic treatment,
> very interesting.
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Glenn Bradford <glenn.bradford at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > You can definitely do some things to help too...
> >
> > Find the exact sore spot and give it a good rub - don't injure it
> > more, but definitely give it a little pressure and movement. You're
> > trying to get circulation into the area, and especially into the
> > tendons which don't cycle blood that well. When you're done, put
> > something cool on it - a water bottle, a splash of water, a slurpee,
> > whatever. If you're near a coldish water source, soak it until it's
> > numb to the touch. That cooling then warming back up flushes a lot of
> > crapp out of the area of the injury.
> >
> > Also, if you know it's safe for you, definitely take some Ibuprofen to
> > get the swelling down so that it can heal. It's vitamin I after all!
> >
> > Sounds like it can tolerate it, but injuries like that should be
> > lightly stretched a couple times a day if it can be done with only
> > mild pain. If the pain is mild and stays that way, definitely stay on
> > it, just take it easy on the injury area if you have that option. The
> > cool down the area injury like I described above.
> >
> > If you can't cool it down, then just try rubbing and working the
> > *other* ankle. Sounds weird, but there's a lot of research that shows
> > sympathetic treatment of your body on the side opposite the injury can
> > help you heal 30% faster.
> >
> > Last thing, make sure your calf and knee are stretched out on both
> > sides. In massage therapy, the saying is the ankle starts at the knee.
> > Keeping all that stretched will take pressure off those tendons.
> >
> > Oh, the other last thing, slightly elevate it at night if you can,
> > that will also keep the are flushed out.
> >
> > Have a great hike!
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> > ~ Moccasin
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:02:14 -0700
> From: Kolby Kirk <admin at thehikeguy.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Solio Tip
> To: Melissa Rexilius <melissa.rexilius at hotmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, juniper_canoeman at yahoo.com
> Message-ID: <BANLkTinTy3sLoDS+S1Zccu_X_dFMMiO_dg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Thanks, t-Rex. I reluctantly ordered a replacement charger (
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00449U3K0). Since the Solio is so light,
> maybe I'll bring it to the KO as well and ship it home if need be. I'm sure
> I'll find more to send home after the shakedown from the border back up to
> the KO. Come by and say "hi" - I'm at campsite #80.
>
> Kolby
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Melissa Rexilius <
> melissa.rexilius at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I was just looking through all of the different tips that Solio provides
> > and I only see one tip that will work for an iPhone, iPod, iAnything. So,
> > maybe you might want to test out using another USB cable or something.
> > Perhaps it's not the charger, but the cable, or older software. <-- which
> > shouldn't matter at all... I don't know, just trying to think outside the
> > box. Will you be at Kickoff? We can compare there if you like...
> >
> >
> > t.Rex
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:04:43 -0700
> From: Kolby Kirk <admin at thehikeguy.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] 1/3 of hikers start at end of April in monumental
> snow year?
> To: Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
> Cc: PCT List <pctlist at gmail.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=JWuSEBR6YrW=VTzS4nmrDHU40QA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I might as well be known as Turtle. I suspect when I start on May 1st, my
> slow-ass will be passed by 1/3 of the other thru-hikers. Maybe if I time it
> right, I'll arrive in the Sierras just in time to see the first wildflowers
> of the season. :)
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Goodness wrote:
> > >
> > I am afraid of snow. Not afraid of big miles in norcal. Pushed start date
> > to
> > may 16.
> > >
> >
> > As Steel-Eye just said, everyone gets to pick their own fear. Personally,
> > I'm more afraid of scorching desert heat than I am of snow in the Sierra,
> > so
> > if I were thru-hiking this year (which I'm not, tragically), I'd probably
> > still start in April. Snow is just one factor in a many-part equation and
> > when you consider everything all together, starting mid-to-late April makes
> > a lot of sense in almost any year. Scott's numbers don't surprise me one
> > bit and I continue to believe they'd be largely the same with or without
> > ADZPCTKO. But starting later this year is also a reasonable strategy so if
> > that is what makes you comfortable, go for it.
> >
> > Eric
> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 30
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:07:51 -0700
> From: Kolby Kirk <admin at thehikeguy.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
> To: giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Cc: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BANLkTin3ykbnUAnPOfc7mJ71h9t72UO8Kw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> So a PCT permit can be used as a wilderness permit in Yosemite?
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:04 PM, giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
>
> > That's a good link. Try this one also which covers camping anywhere else.
> > (this info might have been posted earlier; sorry for any duplication).
> >
> > "Do I have to camp in designated campsites?
> > No, in the vast majority of the park. Only at the five High Sierra Camps
> > and in the Little Yosemite Valley area must you camp at a designated site.
> > Otherwise you may camp anywhere you like, provided you follow all the
> > regulations listed above."
> > http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/wildregs.htm
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: gwschenk at socal.rr.com
> > To: PCT ; Guthrie Nutter
> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
> >
> >
> > http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/bpcamp.htm
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > ---- Guthrie Nutter <guthrie.nutter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > What's the story about non-reserved camping along the JMT from TM to
> > > Yosemite?
> > >
> > > Been on the phone, trying to get a live person to help me - getting a
> > lot of
> > > mixed messages. Need insight about where I can actually CAMP. Getting
> > the
> > > impression that TM, even Glen Aulin is a reservation only campground.
> > Is
> > > this so? Would this mean I'd have to barrel in from Vogelsang, and then
> > run
> > > out TM to pick up my resupply and try to get as far as possible all in
> > the
> > > same day...? Weird. Was hoping to check out Yosemite, but with all
> > these
> > > new 2011 rules and rangers, it sounds like a police state. Against my
> > inner
> > > child's wishes, I'm considering on ditching it.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > --
> > > www.guthrienutter.com
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 31
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:09:47 -0700
> From: Kolby Kirk <admin at thehikeguy.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Day Late
> To: David Thibault <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>, PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BANLkTintHFmXexyhZGHjuLvMRotSOgtXMg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hey David,
>
> Just had to tell you that I love your trailname! Did you hike with anyone
> with the trailname "Dollar Short"? :)
>
> Kolby
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 32
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:12:25 -0700
> From: Kolby Kirk <admin at thehikeguy.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] H1000 solio iphone tip
> To: Perry Chamberlain <juniper_canoeman at yahoo.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BANLkTimZY7VoQfv38fayXjjuLreAm0qR9A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Yeah, that's the one that came with my h1000. I'll have to call Solio on
> Monday. Thanks.
>
> Kolby
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Perry Chamberlain <
> juniper_canoeman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Here is the tip you need for the iphone 3g and ipod itouch
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Solio-H1000-Classic-Adapter-iPhone/dp/B002P54PQI/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_3
> > Canoeman
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 33
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:15:07 -0400
> From: Toby Maxwell <tmm19 at geneseo.edu>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tendonitis...minor injuries
> To: Brandon McGinnity <bmcginnity at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=i3qke=UBbAD-NZLkQzAVMFRo83A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Great! I have been icing it a few times a day so far and am taking some
> alleve. thanks for the on trail advice too, I am intrigued by the idea of
> massaging the other ankle, but I will also definitely start to stretch my
> knee and other aspects of my leg etc on your advice. thanks again,
>
> -Toby
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Brandon McGinnity <bmcginnity at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Excellent advice, Glenn! I didn't know that about the sympathetic
> > treatment,
> > very interesting.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Glenn Bradford <glenn.bradford at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > You can definitely do some things to help too...
> > >
> > > Find the exact sore spot and give it a good rub - don't injure it
> > > more, but definitely give it a little pressure and movement. You're
> > > trying to get circulation into the area, and especially into the
> > > tendons which don't cycle blood that well. When you're done, put
> > > something cool on it - a water bottle, a splash of water, a slurpee,
> > > whatever. If you're near a coldish water source, soak it until it's
> > > numb to the touch. That cooling then warming back up flushes a lot of
> > > crapp out of the area of the injury.
> > >
> > > Also, if you know it's safe for you, definitely take some Ibuprofen to
> > > get the swelling down so that it can heal. It's vitamin I after all!
> > >
> > > Sounds like it can tolerate it, but injuries like that should be
> > > lightly stretched a couple times a day if it can be done with only
> > > mild pain. If the pain is mild and stays that way, definitely stay on
> > > it, just take it easy on the injury area if you have that option. The
> > > cool down the area injury like I described above.
> > >
> > > If you can't cool it down, then just try rubbing and working the
> > > *other* ankle. Sounds weird, but there's a lot of research that shows
> > > sympathetic treatment of your body on the side opposite the injury can
> > > help you heal 30% faster.
> > >
> > > Last thing, make sure your calf and knee are stretched out on both
> > > sides. In massage therapy, the saying is the ankle starts at the knee.
> > > Keeping all that stretched will take pressure off those tendons.
> > >
> > > Oh, the other last thing, slightly elevate it at night if you can,
> > > that will also keep the are flushed out.
> > >
> > > Have a great hike!
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > >
> > > ~ Moccasin
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 34
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:23:58 -0700
> From: Melanie Clarke <melaniekclarke at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
> To: Guthrie Nutter <guthrie.nutter at gmail.com>
> Cc: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=pbPquFP3HnoeK=pudg2wtrhsQ4A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Dear Guthrie,
>
> The backpacker's campground in Toualame Meadows is wonderful and it's on a
> "drop in" basis. It is in back of a main camping area. Walk into the
> campground and past the showers, bathrooms and it's in back. Of course
> Lyell Canyon has splendid soft meadow camping but make sure to camp 4 miles
> before T.M. You should not have a problem any where near Yosemite
>
> Melanie
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Guthrie Nutter <guthrie.nutter at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > What's the story about non-reserved camping along the JMT from TM to
> > Yosemite?
> >
> > Been on the phone, trying to get a live person to help me - getting a lot
> > of
> > mixed messages. Need insight about where I can actually CAMP. Getting the
> > impression that TM, even Glen Aulin is a reservation only campground. Is
> > this so? Would this mean I'd have to barrel in from Vogelsang, and then
> > run
> > out TM to pick up my resupply and try to get as far as possible all in the
> > same day...? Weird. Was hoping to check out Yosemite, but with all these
> > new 2011 rules and rangers, it sounds like a police state. Against my
> > inner
> > child's wishes, I'm considering on ditching it.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > www.guthrienutter.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Pct-L mailing list
> > Pct-L at backcountry.net
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 35
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:44:58 -0700
> From: Melanie Clarke <melaniekclarke at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Outrageous Marketing Ploy and Job Offer
> To: hiker97 at aol.com
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=Rmfo0t2jg-0+h_5Zc2LNQiM5qnQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Dear Switchback,
>
> I'm alluring and attractive to the "over 50" crowd and to anyone who has
> been on the trail for 4 months but it looks like I'll be at the "Roost"
> anyway! I'll bring the "Pirate Booty"
>
> Melanie
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:17 AM, <hiker97 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Sugar Moma writes: woohoo! I've always wanted a tatoo Switchback...u'll do
> > the honors yes?
> > --------------------------------
> > Switchback replies: Yes, I will be glad to apply pirate tattoos to any
> > women who want it done at the Pirate Roost campsite #22. We can negotiate
> > the price.
> >
> > Say, I am recruiting any females who want to be a First Mates at the Roost
> > table area. This is the Pirate Brigade. Duties will be to look attractive
> > and alluring to entice male hikers over to avail themselves Roost products
> > and services. You will get a very generous commission and benefits for any
> > products and services
> > sold. I respectfully thank you.
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 36
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:29:57 -0700
> From: Jay Davis <jayd215 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Hiker's Oasis in Anza?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BANLkTim-x7ZPX6LVwYGNJHwei-kbqQ-d6g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Does anyone know if the Hiker's Oasis in Anza (by Kamp Anza RV Park)
> that was hosted by The Bear and Ziggy is still up and running?
>
> Thanks,
>
> NAP
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 37
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:44:21 -0700
> From: AsABat <asabat at 4jeffrey.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiker's Oasis in Anza?
> To: Jay Davis <jayd215 at gmail.com>,pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <04e8c10b-2c73-43af-9137-268869c9d201 at email.android.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> No.
>
> AsABat
> PCT Water Reports SoCal http://pct.4jeffrey.net
> Send water updates to water at 4jeffrey.net
>
> "Jay Davis" <jayd215 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know if the Hiker's Oasis in Anza (by Kamp Anza RV Park)
> >that was hosted by The Bear and Ziggy is still up and running?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >NAP
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 38
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 20:19:00 -0700
> From: eckert <jape1 at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiker's Oasis in Anza?
> To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <4DB396A4.2030808 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I recall reading that it is not. Hawkeye visited them in '09 and wrote
> about it in his journal http://www.trailjournals.com/entry.cfm?id=290006
>
>
> On 4/23/2011 7:29 PM, Jay Davis wrote:
> > Does anyone know if the Hiker's Oasis in Anza (by Kamp Anza RV Park)
> > that was hosted by The Bear and Ziggy is still up and running?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > NAP
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 39
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:01:12 -0700
> From: Thelma Fredricksen <thelma.fredricksen at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
> To: Guthrie Nutter <guthrie.nutter at gmail.com>
> Cc: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BANLkTinfEuj0_03FaJXEmP5Xz67+9srRGA at mail.gmail.com>
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> I've camped in the TM campground a bunch...1/2 of it is first come, first
> serve and the rest is reserve in advance. There is a backpackers area just
> as people have been saying. The regular TM campground can get full after
> 9am, but I'm sure they'll accomodate you somehow in the backpackers area or
> elsewhere. This year, it's hard to say just how much of it will be open and
> when.
> Thelma
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Guthrie Nutter <guthrie.nutter at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > What's the story about non-reserved camping along the JMT from TM to
> > Yosemite?
> >
> > Been on the phone, trying to get a live person to help me - getting a lot
> > of
> > mixed messages. Need insight about where I can actually CAMP. Getting the
> > impression that TM, even Glen Aulin is a reservation only campground. Is
> > this so? Would this mean I'd have to barrel in from Vogelsang, and then
> > run
> > out TM to pick up my resupply and try to get as far as possible all in the
> > same day...? Weird. Was hoping to check out Yosemite, but with all these
> > new 2011 rules and rangers, it sounds like a police state. Against my
> > inner
> > child's wishes, I'm considering on ditching it.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
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> Message: 40
> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 00:14:40 -0400
> From: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
> To: "Kolby Kirk" <admin at thehikeguy.com>
> Cc: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <D9FF09D45EA846C881ED6CD0652C097C at HomePC>
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> I've heard that from other PCT-listers but don't know the answer first-hand. I'm sure someone else will chime in.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kolby Kirk
> To: giniajim
> Cc: PCT
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
>
>
> So a PCT permit can be used as a wilderness permit in Yosemite?
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:04 PM, giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
>
> That's a good link. Try this one also which covers camping anywhere else. (this info might have been posted earlier; sorry for any duplication).
>
> "Do I have to camp in designated campsites?
> No, in the vast majority of the park. Only at the five High Sierra Camps and in the Little Yosemite Valley area must you camp at a designated site. Otherwise you may camp anywhere you like, provided you follow all the regulations listed above." http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/wildregs.htm
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gwschenk at socal.rr.com
> To: PCT ; Guthrie Nutter
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
>
>
> http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/bpcamp.htm
>
> HTH
>
> ---- Guthrie Nutter <guthrie.nutter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > What's the story about non-reserved camping along the JMT from TM to
> > Yosemite?
> >
> > Been on the phone, trying to get a live person to help me - getting a lot of
> > mixed messages. Need insight about where I can actually CAMP. Getting the
> > impression that TM, even Glen Aulin is a reservation only campground. Is
> > this so? Would this mean I'd have to barrel in from Vogelsang, and then run
> > out TM to pick up my resupply and try to get as far as possible all in the
> > same day...? Weird. Was hoping to check out Yosemite, but with all these
> > new 2011 rules and rangers, it sounds like a police state. Against my inner
> > child's wishes, I'm considering on ditching it.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > www.guthrienutter.com
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> Message: 41
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:24:02 -0700
> From: Aaron Wallace <aaron at skeeky.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
> To: giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net>, "pct-l at backcountry.net"
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <C5C5A8BC-F83D-4A5E-8833-3CF83815982F at skeeky.com>
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>
> The PCT permit is a valid wilderness permit in Yosemite, but only for the PCT itself, and not other trails (such as the JMT from Tuolumne to the valley).
>
> >From http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/jmt.htm :
>
>
> Pacific Crest Trail
> Pacific Crest Trail through-hikers with a valid permit issued by the Pacific Crest Trail Association<http://www.pcta.org/> do not need an additional wilderness permit in order to camp in the Yosemite Wilderness while along the Pacific Crest Trail. However, if you plan to hike elsewhere in Yosemite (off of the Pacific Crest Trail) and camp overnight, you will need to get a separate wilderness permit<http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/wildpermits.htm>. PCT through permits are also not valid to ascend the Half Dome cables<http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/halfdome.htm>.
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2011, at 9:15 PM, "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net<mailto:jplynch at crosslink.net>> wrote:
>
> I've heard that from other PCT-listers but don't know the answer first-hand. I'm sure someone else will chime in.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kolby Kirk
> To: giniajim
> Cc: PCT
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
>
>
> So a PCT permit can be used as a wilderness permit in Yosemite?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 42
> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 00:47:44 -0400
> From: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
> To: "Aaron Wallace" <aaron at skeeky.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <B35612A07FA541AA8F067A5B9FEEC501 at HomePC>
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>
> Question, so your understanding is that you couldn't hike down to the Valley to resupply and maybe spend the night at the backpacker campground?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aaron Wallace
> To: giniajim ; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 12:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
>
>
>
>
> The PCT permit is a valid wilderness permit in Yosemite, but only for the PCT itself, and not other trails (such as the JMT from Tuolumne to the valley).
>
>
> From http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/jmt.htm :
>
>
> Pacific Crest Trail
> Pacific Crest Trail through-hikers with a valid permit issued by the Pacific Crest Trail Association do not need an additional wilderness permit in order to camp in the Yosemite Wilderness while along the Pacific Crest Trail. However, if you plan to hike elsewhere in Yosemite (off of the Pacific Crest Trail) and camp overnight, you will need to get a separate wilderness permit. PCT through permits are also not valid to ascend the Half Dome cables.
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2011, at 9:15 PM, "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
>
>
> I've heard that from other PCT-listers but don't know the answer first-hand. I'm sure someone else will chime in.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kolby Kirk
> To: giniajim
> Cc: PCT
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camping in Tuolumne/Yosemite
>
>
> So a PCT permit can be used as a wilderness permit in Yosemite?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 43
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Nathan Miller <erccmacfitheal at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food in the Sierras
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <134982.85075.qm at web44811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I suppose you could hike with a Firewalker--in addition to letting them melt snow, fry ticks and scorch poison oak for you, they could also kill things like snakes, squirrels and marmots for dinner each night. That way, not only do you not have to carry food, it's already there along the trail waiting for you. It'll also be fresher than what you'll find in all those...er...mobile hiker boxes.
>
> -Nate the Trail Zombie
> Newberg, OR
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 44
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:01:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Nathan Miller <erccmacfitheal at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rabid t.Rex's
> To: steeleye at wildblue.net, pct-l at backcountry.net, Melissa Rexilius
> <melissa.rexilius at hotmail.com>
> Message-ID: <419331.7026.qm at web44804.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> > Good morning, all,We each get to choose what we fear so my
> > fear-pick is being pursued by arabid *Tyrannosaurus rex.
>
> I'd say being pursued by rabid velociraptors would be far worse. It's not hard to evade a T-rex on the rough, steep terrain of the High Sierra. Outmaneuvering a velociraptor, on the other hand, would be downright impossible.
>
> -Nate the Trail Zombie
> Newberg, OR
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 45
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:22:43 -0700
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Melanie & Reinhold
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net, Hiker97 <hiker97 at aol.com>, Melanie Clarke
> <melaniekclarke at gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <4DB3B3A3.8040107 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Melanie,....my scrumptious little one.....I'm glad you have calmed down.
> Don't let that "BRUTE" Switchback upset you.
> Come to your "Sugar Daddy"......I will rub your back , kiss your little
> toes
> and make you forget all those bad tings Switchback said.
>
> Your Sugar Daddy
> JMT Reinhold
> -------------------------------------------------
> Melanie wrote:
> Dear Reinhold, Switchback, Okay okay, I've counted to ten and I've
> calmed down.
> Please understand that I have been dealing with some very emotional
> issues this winter which tends to make me hit the comfort food.
> Let's just say that I'm a little touchy because I will be bringing about
> 5 lbs more "pirate booty" to camp #22 this year.
> So be sensitive before making me the "butt" of the jokes!
> I hope to make those 5 extra pounds of "pirate booty" disappear along
> the trail.
>
> Melanie
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Switchback wrote: /
> Scarecrow Reinhold writes:
> And please Melanie and Sugar Moma,......don't //throw me into Lake
> Morena at 5 in the morning.
> The water will be col//d....I am not well insulated like
> Switchback......I'm just a lean hiking //machine,
> and I will be freezing.
> Stick with the original plan....throw //Switchback in the lake....he has
> more insulation. //
> Switchback has so much insulation, he could hike naked at the North Pole
> //and not feel the cold
> --------------------------------------------------
> //Switchback replies:
> It will be very hard to throw me in anything. I will //be warm in my
> kingsize motel bed Saturday and Sunday mornings.
> I don't need //any insulation while I am relaxing surrounded by down
> pillows and //comforter. /
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 46
> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:27:27 -0700
> From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hand held GPS - update ib Dakota 20
> To: PCT List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Cc: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <4DB3B4BF.6080907 at charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I've heard back from Garmin, another reinstall of unit software (firmware);
> then had to use my computer to delete a track that the GPS couldn't delete.
> First set of lithium AA cells lasted ~9 hours. The screen at least on my
> unit has low contrast and very difficult to read in daylight. Menus are
> illogical and maybe I could rearrange them. User manual lacks information;
> I've Googled to find out how to do tasks that should be in the manual. In
> short too many problems & shortcomings; takes way too much time to get
> working; this unit is going back to REI.
>
> I want a GPS that adds to my enjoyment rather than be an aggravation. When
> I have some more time to spend I'll look at alternatives such as an older
> smartphone or maybe an iPod with a GPS attachment.
>
> Tortoise
>
> <> Because truth matters.<>
>
>
> On 04/02/11 19:53, Tortoise wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> > thanks for your response. I may have a defective unit. I'm waiting to
> > hear back from Garmin. I bought this unit from REI (and paid a little
> > more) because of their return policy. But only a couple more days before
> > the unit goes back to REI to be replaced if I don't get a good fix from
> > Garmin. This unit has mixed reviews on REI -- some love it; some don't like
> > it at all. Maybe their is a quality control problem with the manufacture
> > -- some units work, some don't.
> >
> > Tortoise
> >
> > <> Because truth matters.<>
> >
> >
> > On 04/02/11 13:09, Paul Robison wrote:
> >> I've been using my Dakota 20 for the last 3 days nonstop... And about twice a week before that. Gotten between 22 and 28 continuous hours out of 2 lithium AA's.
> >>
> >> Been using custom tracks made from 'GPS Expert' ( thanks halfmile) ... And it's been typically accurate to 3 foot in the open and within ten ft under cover.
> >>
> >> The tracks I did were 12 13 and 15.5 miles; no glitches thusfar.
> >>
> >> Also used it for a few road trips and worked well.
> >>
> >> Sorry your unit has not worked as well... Any chance you had a lemon and could exchange it... Put in up to date firmware; and the. Start all over?
> >> Sent from my iPod
> >>
> >> On 2011-04-02, at 3:11 PM, Tortoise<Tortoise73 at charter.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I contacted Garmin tech support. following their instructions I reloaded
> >>> system software, did a system reset, and purged specified files from
> >>> memory. I have fewer problems but still have had a lock up and a track that
> >>> just won't delete. Contacted Garmin tech support again Thursday eve and
> >>> haven't heard back. Waiting for Garmin's response before deciding what to
> >>> do with the unit.
> >>>
> >>> Tortoise
> >>>
> >>> <> Because truth matters.<>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 03/22/11 22:09, Tortoise wrote:
> >>>> I received my new Garmin Dakota 20 from REI yesterday. Took it out with
> >>>> me today while trying to figure out what buttons to touch to get what I
> >>>> want, the unit froze up twice. Had to turn it off and restart. Just lost
> >>>> some menu items and had to reset it to "original settings". This unit
> >>>> seems to really use up the battery. I put new lithium AAs in it and after
> >>>> only ~3 hours of use the battery indicator indicates the cells are were
> >>>> 40% gone and then 60% gone. I still haven't decided if I like the
> >>>> structure of the menus or the ease of operating the unit.
> >>>> Tortoise
> >>>>
> >>>> <> Because truth matters.<>
> >>>>
>
>
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