[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 33, Issue 36
Barbara Karagosian
barbara at mkpe.com
Tue Sep 14 14:32:57 CDT 2010
Re bear Cannisters, you can rent one for a flat rate of $55 for a thru hike from Wild Ideas - the Bearikade Weekender or Expedition. Order it online and put PCT thru hiker on the order to get the thru rate.
Cheers, Barbara
On Sep 14, 2010, at 10:51 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
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> 1. Re: I am looking for used gear. (greg mushial)
> 2. Re: Thru hike pack suggestions? (Jeffrey Haas)
> 3. Re: Thru hike pack suggestions? (Jeffrey Haas)
> 4. Platypus Content (bighummel at aol.com)
> 5. Re: Thru hike pack suggestions? (Scott Bryce)
> 6. Re: Weight loss on a thru hike?] (Meridith Rosendahl)
> 7. Re: Weight loss on a thru hike?] (Austin Williams)
> 8. Re: Platypus Content (Austin Williams)
> 9. Re: Platypus Content (Russ Kinder)
> 10. Re: Platypus Content (Austin Williams)
> 11. Thrun hike pack suggestions (jomike at cot.net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:00:34 -0700
> From: "greg mushial" <gmushial at gmdr.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] I am looking for used gear.
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:33:22 -0400
>> From: Nicholas Bogater <bogater at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] I am looking for used gear.
>> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>>
>> Hello,
>> My wife and I are going to be hiking the PCT in 2011. We currently live
>> in Florida so we have no need for Ice Axes or Bear Cans. I have looked for
>> a reliable hiker based forum that is centered around selling used gear but
>> have not yet found one. If you know of such a forum or have light weight
>> axes and/or bear cans for sale please let me know.
>> Too infinity and beyond,
>> -Nick & Johanna
>
> The other choice would be to buy new - that way you can get exactly what you
> want - and then sell it afterwards... and hopefully get 70ish% of the $'s
> back. Otherwise, you might try standard old eBay.
> TheDuck
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:57:40 -0400
> From: Jeffrey Haas <coopermacjill at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hike pack suggestions?
> To: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, Julia Marsh <juliak.marsh at gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <3B3B635C-E488-43B3-B20E-9EAADDE4A95E at gmail.com>
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> If you're committing to a go lite pack, you also need to reduce the weight of the contents in the pack. If you are planning on using a go lite with 30 to 35 lbs of gear including water, you may be in trouble because the suspension isn't designed for that weight.
>
> Using a go lite pack from my experience represents a total commitment to reducing the weight of everything you're carrying. If you're not going to do that I would not suggest you carry a go lite.
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Austin Williams wrote:
>
>> I Highly recommend the GoLite Breeze, but they don't make it anymore. Not
>> to worry, the Ray Way pack is (literally) the *exact* same design as the
>> Breeze... the only catch is that you have to buy the kit and sew it yourself
>> (not as hard as it sounds).
>>
>> Mine weighs 8 or 9 oz, and has plenty of room for everything I needed on the
>> PCT.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> --
>> Austin Williams
>>
>> www.PlanYourHike.com
>> Info on PCT gear, resupply points, maps, movies, etc.
>>
>> "Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway."
>> -John Wayne
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:46:42 -0400
> From: Jeffrey Haas <coopermacjill at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hike pack suggestions?
> To: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>,
> pct-l at backcountry.net
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> My recommendation would be to take inventory of your current gear and it's weight. Then plan what gear you'll need to replace to get to a base weight that will allow you to utilize the Golite or RayWay packs comfortably. Personally the last piece of gear I would buy would be the pack (assuming you already have a pack that you use for your heavier gear). As you transition your gear from heavier to lighter you can still use your old pack for trips (until you complete the transition). This will enable you to do a couple things:
>
> 1 - comfortably transition from a "heavier" pack to ultraweight backpacking
> 2 - allow you to test the functionality of some of the lighter gear before you "go all in" with the ultra light packs. You may find you like some of the ultra light gear and not other.
>
> At the end of the day, I believe this conversion is a process and about personal preference and comfort. You need to find what you're willing to sacrifice on and what you don't want to. That's why I recommend you transition the gear over a period of time before you buy the pack.
>
> Hope this makes sense.
>
> Peace
>
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Austin Williams wrote:
>
>> I agree with Jeff completely. As an obsessive ultra-lighter I sometimes forget that there exist people that aren't "gram-weenies" like me. :)
>> I wouldn't recommend the Golite Breeze or RayWay pack if you plan on carrying more than 30 lbs on a regular basis. In my experience, it can handle up to 40 lbs without breaking the pack... but it will be uncomfortable. On one section (the JMT) I used a front-pack to carry extra food... mostly because I was too cheap to resupply at Muir Ranch.
>> Also, just for comfort, I always carried my water in platypus bag inside a lightweight hip-pack. I run a drinking tube from there up to my shoulder. It's very comfortable for me and is yet another way I can keep a few more pounds off my shoulders while I hike. :)
>> --
>> Austin Williams
>>
>> www.PlanYourHike.com
>> Info on PCT gear, resupply points, maps, movies, etc.
>>
>> "Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway."
>> -John Wayne
>>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:09:35 -0400
> From: bighummel at aol.com
> Subject: [pct-l] Platypus Content
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Has anyone else come with a simple way to determine how much water you have left in a platypus that is inside your pack?
> I was thinking of sewing a hook onto the side of my pack and hang it in one of the side net pockets with a bubble wrap foil insulation sleeve with a slot of clear tape down one side to accomplish this. Any other ideas?
>
>
> Greg Hummel
>
>
> "We stand for what we stand on"
> Bonnie Abbzug
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:09:44 -0600
> From: Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hike pack suggestions?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> On 9/13/2010 6:05 PM, Julia Marsh wrote:
>> I'm thru-hiking the PCT next spring and I've been researching lighter
>> weight packs - thinking about the ULA Catalyst or the Granite Gear
>> Nimbus Ozone. I've also heard good things about Golite Jam, Six Moon
>> Designs Starlite. Anyone have experience with these packs? Other
>> suggestions I should check out? Thanks.
>
> A lot depends on how much you plan to carry. ULA makes great packs, but
> the catalyst may be a smidge larger than you need. Consider the Circuit,
> especially if your base weight is below 16 pounds.
>
> If you have a rough idea what your base weight might be, we can make a
> better recommendation. The usual recommendation is to buy your other
> gear first, and buy a pack that everything fits in last, taking into
> consideration the bear can you will have to carry in the Sierra.
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:12:14 -0700
> From: Meridith Rosendahl <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Weight loss on a thru hike?]
> To: austinwilliams123 at gmail.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <4C8FACEE.9060906 at gmail.com>
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> Hey Guys,
>
> I did not originate this thread. Please don't write to me, write to the
> list.
>
> Piper's Mom
>
>
> On 9/14/2010 10:03 AM, Austin Williams wrote:
>> I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I actually *gained* weight on
>> my thruhike. I'm pretty slim as it stands, so I think The extra
>> weight was all leg muscle.
>> --
>> Austin Williams
>>
>> www.PlanYourHike.com <http://www.PlanYourHike.com>
>> Info on PCT gear, resupply points, maps, movies, etc.
>>
>> "Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway."
>> -John Wayne
>>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] [Fwd: Re: Weight loss on a thru hike?]
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:03:59 -0700
> From: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>
> To: Meridith Rosendahl <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>
>
>
>
> I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I actually *gained* weight on my
> thruhike. I'm pretty slim as it stands, so I think The extra weight was
> all leg muscle.
> --
> Austin Williams
>
> www.PlanYourHike.com <http://www.PlanYourHike.com>
> Info on PCT gear, resupply points, maps, movies, etc.
>
> "Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway."
> -John Wayne
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:16:18 -0700
> From: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Weight loss on a thru hike?]
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I actually *gained* weight on my
> thruhike. I'm pretty slim as it stands, so I think The extra weight was all
> leg muscle.
> --
> Austin Williams
>
> www.PlanYourHike.com
> Info on PCT gear, resupply points, maps, movies, etc.
>
> "Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway."
> -John Wayne
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:17:42 -0700
> From: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Platypus Content
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> You could make your own markings. Pour a half liter of water into the bag,
> mark the waterline on the bag with a marker. repeat.
> Just an idea.
>
> --
> Austin Williams
>
> www.PlanYourHike.com
> Info on PCT gear, resupply points, maps, movies, etc.
>
> "Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway."
> -John Wayne
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:34:37 -0700
> From: Russ Kinder <rkinder at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Platypus Content
> To: bighummel at aol.com
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Camelbak makes a digital flow meter (http://www.rei.com/product/795867) that
> you connect to the drinking tube line. In theory it would work with any
> reservoir, but from the user reviews it sounds like in may practice it may
> not be any better than just guessing.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:09 AM, <bighummel at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else come with a simple way to determine how much water you have
>> left in a platypus that is inside your pack?
>> I was thinking of sewing a hook onto the side of my pack and hang it in one
>> of the side net pockets with a bubble wrap foil insulation sleeve with a
>> slot of clear tape down one side to accomplish this. Any other ideas?
>>
>>
>> Greg Hummel
>>
>>
>> "We stand for what we stand on"
>> Bonnie Abbzug
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:48:09 -0700
> From: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Platypus Content
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Oooohhhh..... now I get it. You want to be able to do this without taking
> it out of your pack! Gotcha.
> That's a tough one. Let me think about it for a while....
> --
> Austin Williams
>
> www.PlanYourHike.com
> Info on PCT gear, resupply points, maps, movies, etc.
>
> "Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway."
> -John Wayne
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:51:52 -0700
> From: <jomike at cot.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Thrun hike pack suggestions
> To: <juliak.marsh at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:05:25 -0400
> From: Julia Marsh <>
> Subject: [pct-l] Thru hike pack suggestions?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I'm thru-hiking the PCT next spring and I've been researching lighter weight
> packs - thinking about the ULA Catalyst or the Granite Gear Nimbus Ozone.
> I've also heard good things about Golite Jam, Six Moon Designs Starlite.
> Anyone have experience with these packs? Other suggestions I should check
> out? Thanks.
>
> --
> Julia Marsh
> **********************************************
>
> I have a brand new ULA pack (large) for sale. Never been used. E-mail me off line if interested.
>
> are we there yet
>
>
>
>
>
> ...going to the mountains is going home.
>
> John Muir
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