[pct-l] Bikers on the PCT

[Edward Anderson]

Ron,

The reason for the need for a written citation (that the biker would be required 
to sign) is that they will deny having seen the sign with the red slash. And, 
realize that they might be telling the truth. On Section E near Agua Dulce I 
know of several places where they can access the PCT from side trails. Once they 
have signed the citation the warning is officially on record.  If they are 
caught again the fine should be very substantial.  They should be required to 
hike out, physically carrying the bike - the ranger having removed one of the 
wheels and lock-chained it to the other wheel.  The fines would help pay for 
extra Rangers.  If more funding is needed - how about the Feds helping to pay 
the cost of enforcement INSTEAD of sending so much of our tax-payer dollors to 
places like Greece, Brazil, Mexico, etc, etc, - - - -p - - ?

MendoRider


________________________________
From: Ron Dye <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
To: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, October 24, 2010 12:38:45 PM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Bikers on the PCT

Ed,

I respectfully disagree with one concept of your post.  NO warning.  The
signs at the trailhead are their warning.  When you think how infrequent it
is that law enforcement can devote any time there, the likelihood of a
violator getting caught twice would be infinitesimal - there go the teeth in
the enforcement.  But, other than that procedural issue, I agree that
enforcement is needed.  The reality is that it isn't likely to occur  any
time soon with cutbacks the way they are.  The fines don't cover the cost of
enforcement, but if made stiffer they would go further.

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Edward Anderson
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:23 PM
To: lucymann at comcast.net
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bikers on the PCT

What is needed is called ENFORCEMENT - including appropriate penaltys for 
violations to get the message across.  Obviously more is needed than just a
sign 
of a bycycle (or motorcycle) with a diagonal red slash. What is needed is an

additional sign indicating that there will be FINES for violations.  The
bikers 
are well aware that they don't belong on the PCT.  Start with a
written citation 
with just a warning on the first offence.  After that the consequences for 
violations should become greater - substantial fines and possibly impounding
the 
illegal wheeled vehicle. It should cost them money to get it back.

How to do this?  In America today JOBS are needed.  I say hire enforcement 
Rangers.  Due to cutbacks there are many Rangers now out of work. The FINES 
could be used to pay thier saleries.

I have met Medicare Pastor on several occasions.  Most recently in Vasquez
Park 
in Agua Dulce where I live.  She is a very special person.

MendoRider



________________________________
From: "lucymann at comcast.net" <lucymann at comcast.net>
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Fri, October 22, 2010 9:32:03 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Bikers on the PCT




I read an interesting (and depressing) entry in Medicare Pastor's Trail
Journal 
today and wanted to comment on it here. What, if anything, can be done about
the 
increasing violations of bikers on the PCT? I personally ran into a biker on
the 
PCT on Saturday north of Stampede Pass who claimed he didn't know he was on
the 
PCT and apparently was blind because there were at least a dozen PCT signs. 
Medicare Pastor ran into many more. It makes one feel so impotent to see the

flagrant violations and not be able to do anything about it. Do any of you
have 
any recommendations? She took pictures as they laughed and taunted her. I
have 
decided to take pictures and post them on the Washington Trails
Association's 
trip report site to at least publicize the problem but I really don't know
what 
good it will do. 




http://www.trailjournals.com/entry.cfm?id=332018 



Lucy Mann 
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