[pct-l] Too much clothing!?

[Lisa Freathy]

Thanks for the quick feedback Mango! 

I had a follow up question...I was worried about deleting the sleep/camp pants 
as my cap2 pants are the only long pants I will have if I do. My worry is that I 
spend the day in those getting soaking wet from rain, glissading, stream 
crossings, etc. I then I want to stay warm when making dinner & crawl into my 
down bag. I know you want to keep your down dry, but how dry? Is it a bad idea 
to crawl in w/wet pants and let them dry in my sleep? Do you know if the cap2 
pants would keep me as warm while wet in camp as say wool base layer pants 
might? I was considering switching. Would you consider another outter pant 
layer? I was thinking of thin rain pants for WA, but should I consider earlier?

Thanks for your thoughts!
 Lisa 


"Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and climb 
a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
~ John Muir 




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From: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
To: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 11:08:19 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Too much clothing!?


Lisa,
Here are my suggestions.
 
Keep the mid-wt base layers.  Sleep in them.  Delete either the down jacket or 
the fleece, or delete both and carry a lighter lined wind jacket, like the 
Marmot windshirt or equivalent.  It is so flexible in many conditions.
 
Weigh a fleece balaclava; if lighter or about the same, drop the wool beanie.
 
Drop the sleep / camp pants.  Use the cap 2's instead.  
 
Switch out the Precip rain jacket for a silnylon rain jacket with hood 
(pullover, no zipper).  You won't need it very much till later anyway.  The 
silnylon will be good over the windshirt in sideways rain or strong winds.
 
You won't be in camp long enough to get real cold - unpack, set up, eat, get in 
the bag.  You'll be too tired to sit around shivering. 
 
I would take crocs instead of flip-flops.  They stay on better, are more 
cushiony, and don't absorb water when fording in them.  Weigh about the same.
 
The best advice is to load it all up and go on a long weekend hike (multiple 
nights).  Pay attention to what you didn't wear.  Or, sleep out on the backporch 
in your clothes / bag/ matress / etc. to see if you stay warm enough.
 
Watch?  I bought a $15 timex wrist watch and cut the rubber / plastic band off.  
Carried it in a zippered pocket in my pants.
 
Good luck.
Mango

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Freathy" <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 1:46:58 PM
Subject: [pct-l] Too much clothing!?

Watch~? (don't have one yet, suggestions??)
Short Gaiters?
 
Total weight~ 66.2oz
 
Clothing in pack
Mid-weight wool base layer top~ 7.8oz
Capilene 2 base layer bottoms~ 6.1oz (thinking about switching to wool?)
Fleece~ 11.9oz (thinking this is overkill w/other base layers & down jacket in 
camp, any thoughts?)
Pre-Cip Rain Jacket~ 12.5oz
Wool Beanie~ 4.1oz
Sleep/camp pants~ 6.5oz
Down Jacket~ 6.3oz
Flip flops~ 4.5 oz (if I can keep one luxury piece these are it... can't stand 
shoes and don't want to have to wear them in camp/breaks)
 
Total weight~65.3oz
 
Yes folks, that's 8.2 lbs of total weight in clothing (worn & pack)... 
suggestions??