[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76/Beer

Tue May 18 18:39:59 CDT 2010

Symbiosis,

No, no, no. You have me all wrong! I don't need any advance warning if there
is going to be junk at some trail magic. Who would? If you don't see
anything for you just stay to chat, drink some water, and move on! I
wouldn't partake in the 24 beers in 24 miles in 24 hours thing because I
know myself and jackalopes have a hard enough time staying hydrated in the
desert as it is. That doesn't mean that I don't like to drink. Also, I ate
lots of stuff on my hike that I would 't normally eat in real life. I don't
care for cigars at all and I really haven't been able to eat donuts since
working in a bakery as a teenager. All that said, I wouldn't ever, in a
million years, dream of critisizing a free offering of any kind. If it
wasn't my thing (meaty tacos for ex.) I would simply say, "No thanks. Thanks
very much though for the kind thought."
Jackalope

sent from my phone

On May 18, 2010 4:31 PM, "Edward Anderson" <mendoridered at yahoo.com> wrote:

Here's a flash-back that that just came into my memory.  This was in May of
2008. I had just ridden up from Cajon Pass -  all the way to Blue Ridge
Camp. This is a long climb. As I approached Blue Ridge on a dirt road,
alongside it, buried in sight in a snowbank on a north-facing slope was a
very welcome sight - about two dozen assorted cans of beer and soft drinks
that some angel had been so thoughtful to leave.  I had a cold beer. My
horse ate snow and drank from snowmelt just below the snowbank. There was no
note. No one to thank.

MendoRider

--- On Tue, 5/18/10, giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:

From: giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76
To: "Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)" <SWB3 at pge.com>, "Jenn Von Bork" <
dr.jackalope at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 10:47 PM

I've got to jump in.  Free.  Food.  Who cares if its "junk" or not.  I can
eat a donut every so often, and if I couldn't, I would say, "gee thanks, I
have to pass but thanks tons for being here".  Whew.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
  To: Jenn Von Bork
  Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76

  Jackalope,

  Switchback's recent emails implied to me that junk food would be all
  that was available.

  I am grateful that I finally got clarification that the healthy options
  were was available.  I have only been checking these emails for the past
  several weeks and I have not checked the archives to find the original
  announcement.  My apologies.

  I am speaking only for myself.  However, I would imagine that other
  people (and probably yourself) would appreciate the heads-up if junk
  food were the only thing that would be available at the Pass.

  Thanks,
  Symbiosis
  ________________________________

  From: Jenn Von Bork [mailto:dr.jackalope at gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:50 PM
  To: Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
  Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
  Subject: Re: RE: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76

  I am a hiker and am therefore a part of the "us" of which you speak. I
  am also a vegetarian and eat a healty diet of fresh, organic foods (much
  of which I grow in my garden). I am also well educated. I also don't
  like donuts. When the heck did I imply that you were destitute or
  uneducated??? You don't speak for the "hikers", or for me, you speak for
  yourself and only for yourself.
  Jackalope

  sent from my phone

  On May 18, 2010 2:37 PM, "Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)" <SWB3 at pge.com>
  wrote:

  Jackalope,

  I think Katy's comment "So maybe you better keep that horse's
  mouth closed..." would be considered rude by most people.  (but
  obviously not all).

  No, I would not be grateful if someone gave me a case of beer so
  I could do a 24x24x24.  Or a carton of cigars so I can stoke up.  Or a
  bunch of junk food, when my body is desperately craving the nutrition
  that I have missed since my last resupply.  Or a pint of whiskey. Most
  of us are not groveling squirrels or pigeons jumping after every crumb
  anyone wants to throw at us.  Most of us are successful people enjoying
  our hike in the present moment and not salivating at a bunch of junk
  food at the end of the hike.  We hikers are not all destitute and
  uneducated.  Please show us more respect than that

  If I knew that the Big Walker Pass Food Ruck was just a junk
  food festival with exclusionary judgmental people, then I would gladly
  pass it by.

  However, it does appear from the emails below that there will be
  healthy alternatives at this festival and that the people will be
  generally very decent.

  Thanks,
  Symbiosis
  ________________________________

  From: Jenn Von Bork [mailto:dr.jackalope at gmail.com]

  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:51 PM

  To: Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
  Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net

  Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76

  ________________________________

  From: Jenn Von Bork [mailto:dr.jackalope at gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:51 PM
  To: Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
  Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76

  I didn't find Katy's email rude at all. Your request for
  specific foods at a free, entirely volunteer-run event is pretty
  entitled. Having the nerve to criticize the choice of some of those free
  items is...well...worse. You see, in these difficult economic times,
  some of us have greatly reduced incomes and some of us are operating
  with no income at all. We come there, like Katy said, because we enjoy
  helping and hanging out with hikers. We spend way too much money on
  whatever our hearts desire to provide (often things that we have craved
  to no end on the trail). So when you show up, either be very grateful
  that we are there no matter what we are providing or please keep on
  moving. I would say that 99% of hikers are extremely grateful for any
  amount of trail magic they receive on their journey. The small
  percentage of folks that gripe about free food and drink provided out of
  the kindness of the hearts of others threaten to take the "magic" right
  out of it.
  Peace,
  jackalope

  On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
  <SWB3 at pge.com> wrote:

  Goodness.  Some people can be awfully touchy, (grumpy),
  and rude.  Let's
  be civil ... Please.

  It was not clear to me from the emails that there was a
  healthy option.
  So I do appreciate the clarification.

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