[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76/Beer

giniajim jplynch at crosslink.net
Tue May 18 18:33:38 CDT 2010


did you leave a thank-you note?  :)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward Anderson 
  To: giniajim 
  Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76/Beer


        Here's a flash-back that that just came into my memory.  This was in May of 2008. I had just ridden up from Cajon Pass -  all the way to Blue Ridge Camp. This is a long climb. As I approached Blue Ridge on a dirt road, alongside it, buried in sight in a snowbank on a north-facing slope was a very welcome sight - about two dozen assorted cans of beer and soft drinks that some angel had been so thoughtful to leave.  I had a cold beer. My horse ate snow and drank from snowmelt just below the snowbank. There was no note. No one to thank.

        MendoRider

        --- On Tue, 5/18/10, giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:


          From: giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net>
          Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76
          To: "Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)" <SWB3 at pge.com>, "Jenn Von Bork" <dr.jackalope at gmail.com>
          Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
          Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 10:47 PM


          I've got to jump in.  Free.  Food.  Who cares if its "junk" or not.  I can eat a donut every so often, and if I couldn't, I would say, "gee thanks, I have to pass but thanks tons for being here".  Whew.

            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Blanchard, Sym (GT&D) 
            To: Jenn Von Bork 
            Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net 
            Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:29 PM
            Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76


            Jackalope,
             
            Switchback's recent emails implied to me that junk food would be all
            that was available.
             
            I am grateful that I finally got clarification that the healthy options
            were was available.  I have only been checking these emails for the past
            several weeks and I have not checked the archives to find the original
            announcement.  My apologies.
             
            I am speaking only for myself.  However, I would imagine that other
            people (and probably yourself) would appreciate the heads-up if junk
            food were the only thing that would be available at the Pass. 
             
            Thanks,
            Symbiosis
            ________________________________

            From: Jenn Von Bork [mailto:dr.jackalope at gmail.com] 
            Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:50 PM
            To: Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
            Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
            Subject: Re: RE: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76



            I am a hiker and am therefore a part of the "us" of which you speak. I
            am also a vegetarian and eat a healty diet of fresh, organic foods (much
            of which I grow in my garden). I am also well educated. I also don't
            like donuts. When the heck did I imply that you were destitute or
            uneducated??? You don't speak for the "hikers", or for me, you speak for
            yourself and only for yourself.
            Jackalope





            sent from my phone

            On May 18, 2010 2:37 PM, "Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)" <SWB3 at pge.com>
            wrote:


            Jackalope,

            I think Katy's comment "So maybe you better keep that horse's
            mouth closed..." would be considered rude by most people.  (but
            obviously not all).

            No, I would not be grateful if someone gave me a case of beer so
            I could do a 24x24x24.  Or a carton of cigars so I can stoke up.  Or a
            bunch of junk food, when my body is desperately craving the nutrition
            that I have missed since my last resupply.  Or a pint of whiskey. Most
            of us are not groveling squirrels or pigeons jumping after every crumb
            anyone wants to throw at us.  Most of us are successful people enjoying
            our hike in the present moment and not salivating at a bunch of junk
            food at the end of the hike.  We hikers are not all destitute and
            uneducated.  Please show us more respect than that

            If I knew that the Big Walker Pass Food Ruck was just a junk
            food festival with exclusionary judgmental people, then I would gladly
            pass it by.  

            However, it does appear from the emails below that there will be
            healthy alternatives at this festival and that the people will be
            generally very decent.  

            Thanks,
            Symbiosis
            ________________________________


            From: Jenn Von Bork [mailto:dr.jackalope at gmail.com] 

            Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:51 PM 


            To: Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
            Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net

            Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76



            ________________________________

            From: Jenn Von Bork [mailto:dr.jackalope at gmail.com] 
            Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:51 PM
            To: Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
            Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
            Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76



            I didn't find Katy's email rude at all. Your request for
            specific foods at a free, entirely volunteer-run event is pretty
            entitled. Having the nerve to criticize the choice of some of those free
            items is...well...worse. You see, in these difficult economic times,
            some of us have greatly reduced incomes and some of us are operating
            with no income at all. We come there, like Katy said, because we enjoy
            helping and hanging out with hikers. We spend way too much money on
            whatever our hearts desire to provide (often things that we have craved
            to no end on the trail). So when you show up, either be very grateful
            that we are there no matter what we are providing or please keep on
            moving. I would say that 99% of hikers are extremely grateful for any
            amount of trail magic they receive on their journey. The small
            percentage of folks that gripe about free food and drink provided out of
            the kindness of the hearts of others threaten to take the "magic" right
            out of it.
            Peace,
            jackalope



            On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
            <SWB3 at pge.com> wrote:


            Goodness.  Some people can be awfully touchy, (grumpy),
            and rude.  Let's
            be civil ... Please.

            It was not clear to me from the emails that there was a
            healthy option.
            So I do appreciate the clarification.


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