[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76
Jim Keener ( J J )
pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com
Tue May 18 17:15:22 CDT 2010
Make decisions about what is served when you serve. Otherwise your
comments read as whining. Whining with convoluted justification.
Jim Keener ( J J )
http://postholer.com/jj
On May 18, 2010, at 2:37 PM, "Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)" <SWB3 at pge.com>
wrote:
> Jackalope,
>
> I think Katy's comment "So maybe you better keep that horse's mouth
> closed..." would be considered rude by most people. (but obviously
> not
> all).
>
> No, I would not be grateful if someone gave me a case of beer so I
> could
> do a 24x24x24. Or a carton of cigars so I can stoke up. Or a bunch
> of
> junk food, when my body is desperately craving the nutrition that I
> have
> missed since my last resupply. Or a pint of whiskey. Most of us are
> not
> groveling squirrels or pigeons jumping after every crumb anyone
> wants to
> throw at us. Most of us are successful people enjoying our hike in
> the
> present moment and not salivating at a bunch of junk food at the end
> of
> the hike. We hikers are not all not destitute and uneducated.
> Please
> show us more respect than that
>
> If I knew that the Big Walker Pass Food Ruck was just a junk food
> festival with exclusionary judgmental people, then I would gladly pass
> it by.
>
> However, it does appear from the emails below that there will be
> healthy
> alternatives at this festival and that the people will be generally
> very
> decent.
>
> Thanks,
> Symbiosis
> ________________________________
>
> From: Jenn Von Bork [mailto:dr.jackalope at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:51 PM
> To: Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76
>
>
> I didn't find Katy's email rude at all. Your request for specific
> foods
> at a free, entirely volunteer-run event is pretty entitled. Having the
> nerve to criticize the choice of some of those free items
> is...well...worse. You see, in these difficult economic times, some of
> us have greatly reduced incomes and some of us are operating with no
> income at all. We come there, like Katy said, because we enjoy helping
> and hanging out with hikers. We spend way too much money on whatever
> our
> hearts desire to provide (often things that we have craved to no end
> on
> the trail). So when you show up, either be very grateful that we are
> there no matter what we are providing or please keep on moving. I
> would
> say that 99% of hikers are extremely grateful for any amount of trail
> magic they receive on their journey. The small percentage of folks
> that
> gripe about free food and drink provided out of the kindness of the
> hearts of others threaten to take the "magic" right out of it.
> Peace,
> jackalope
>
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Blanchard, Sym (GT&D) <SWB3 at pge.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Goodness. Some people can be awfully touchy, (grumpy), and
> rude. Let's
> be civil ... Please.
>
> It was not clear to me from the emails that there was a healthy
> option.
> So I do appreciate the clarification.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:42:03 -0700 (PDT)
> From: goslowgofar <goslowgofar at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Big Walker Pass Food Ruck
> Donuts/Fruit/healthy
> food!
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <394960.16066.qm at web112319.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> For heaven's sake!!!? We are doing this for FREE because we
> enjoy
> feeding and hanging out with the hikers.? You are not required
> to stop,
> camp, or eat with us.? And, by the way, if you had actually read
> all the
> messages relating to the Walker Pass Food/Ruck, etc....you would
> know
> that there will be lots of food besides donuts...fresh fruit,
> home
> cooked meals prepared by Meadow/Manyon and Jackalope (with
> vegetarian
> options - is that okay for your specific tastes and needs?)? You
> are
> welcome to join us...or not join us.? This is Trail Magic...it
> comes
> serendipitously...you don't get to dictate what/when/how/where
> it is. So
> maybe you better keep that horse's mouth closed...
> ?
> Grumpily yours,
> Katy
> ?
> ?
> Blanchard, Sym (GT&D) SWB3 at pge.com
> Tue May 18 10:44:41 CDT 2010? writes:
> I really hate to look a gift horse in the mouth. But sugary
> donuts
> after a physically demanding hike? C'mon. We are not all still
> teenagers out there.
>
> I am 57-1/2 and plan to continue to hike the PCT for many more
> decades.
> I won't be able to do it if I eat the sugar, fat, processed
> flour, and
> empty calories found in donuts. I know they taste really good,
> but
> they do wreck havoc on most people's bodies (especially us ol'
> folks).
>
> I appreciate your thoughtfulness and enthusiasm. But would you
> be able
> to slip in something for the more health-conscious? I would be
> happy to
> contribute.
>
> Thanks for all your efforts!! I am looking forward to seeing
> you at
> Walker Pass.
>
> Symbiosis
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:51:19 -0700
> From: "Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)" <SWB3 at pge.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Big Walker Pass Food Ruck Donuts
> To: "Jenn Von Bork "
>
> <IMCEAMAILTO-dr+2Ejackalope+40gmail+2Ecom at exchange.pge.com
> <mailto:IMCEAMAILTO-dr%2B2Ejackalope%2B40gmail
> %2B2Ecom at exchange.pge.com>
>> ,
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
>
>
> <2D6091CBA88ABB468F6D421FCA849F7894F6D3 at exchange15.Utility.pge.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Thanks for the clarification. From the previous emails, it did
> not
> sound like there would be any healthy food to eat.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Jenn Von Bork [mailto:dr.jackalope at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:49 AM
> To: Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Big Walker Pass Food Ruck Donuts
>
>
>
> They will be plenty of healthy food there. It is hard to keep
> fresh food
> good for days on end in the heat but we do our best. If you
> don't want
> the donuts, don't eat 'em.
> Jackalope
>
> sent from my phone
>
> On May 18, 2010 8:44 AM, "Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)"
> <SWB3 at pge.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> I really hate to look a gift horse in the mouth. But
> sugary
> donuts
> after a physically demanding hike? C'mon. We are not
> all still
> teenagers out there.
>
> I am 57-1/2 and plan to continue to hike the PCT for many
> more
> decades.
> I won't be able to do it if I eat the sugar, fat,
> processed
> flour, and
> empty calories found in donuts. I know they taste
> really good,
> but
> they do wreck havoc on most people's bodies (especially
> us ol'
> folks).
>
> I appreciate your thoughtfulness and enthusiasm. But
> would you
> be able
> to slip in something for the more health-conscious? I
> would be
> happy to
> contribute.
>
> Thanks for all your efforts!! I am looking forward to
> seeing
> you at
> Walker Pass.
>
> Symbiosis
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 06:08:57 -0400
> From: hiker97 at aol.com
> Subject: [pct-l] Big Walker Pass Food Ruck Donuts
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <8CCC164999A1BC2-1768-909A at Webmail-d105.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Yes, once again, Switchback has done his research. I can
> get 28
> delicious donuts for $14.99 at my favorite donut shop.
> This
> will be for
> the Ruck June 3-6 at Walker Pass for PCT hikers. I guess
> I will
> have to
> get 2 or 3 boxes.
>
> I was down at the bakery today looking through the glass
> windows
> at all
> the varieties. It was amazing. I could not believe all
> the
> hiker power
> goodies. The smell was unbelievable. I especially liked
> the
> chocolate
> donut logs. They are so good. The donuts with sprinkles
> looked
> like
> they would be a big hit too. Another of my favorites are
> the
> coconut
> icing donuts. Super tasty. Those make Kennedy Meadows a
> given.
>
> I coordinated with the baker for my massive order on the
> morning
> of
> Thursday, June 3. Then I drive to Walker Pass. I can
> imagine
> the smell
> as I drive into the camp area in the afternoon. I open
> the door
> of my
> vehicle and hikers start to faint. They cannot believe
> it.
> They think
> they are in heaven.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 06:47:09 -0400
> From: hiker97 at aol.com
> Subject: [pct-l] Big Walker Pass Food Ruck
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <8CCC2FC44C0C927-5C8-E2FD at webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> I hear from master chef, Manyon Ed, that he has steak and
> chicken on the
> menu for Ruck meals. This is fantastic. This is
> unbelievable.
> This
> stupendous. June 3-6 is shaping up as a thru-hiker
> feast. A
> culinary
> buffet of biblical proportions.
>
> Along with my donut/roll pastry explosion of flavors and
> tasty
> goodies,
> dessert will not be a problem. Hundreds of donuts will
> be
> available to
> hikers. Every flavor, every size, every texture will be
> beckoning the
> hungry hiker to have just one more. Many fingers will be
> licked
> to
> gobble up the last morsel of icing and flavor.
>
> Yes, this will be the premier event for the 2010 PCT
> hiking
> season.
> This is the Ruck of all Rucks. This will be recorded in
> many a
> trail
> journal as the stop that got them through to the Sierras
> and
> beyond.
> Hikers will be thinking of Walker Pass as they bang along
> the
> trail.
> They will be daydreaming of pastries and hearty plates of
> food
> ---- a
> smorgasbord delight dancing in their heads.
>
> Hungrily,
>
> Switchback the Trail Pirate
>
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