[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76

Jim Keener ( J J ) pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com
Tue May 18 17:15:22 CDT 2010


Make decisions about what is served when you serve. Otherwise your  
comments read as whining. Whining with convoluted justification.

Jim Keener ( J J )
http://postholer.com/jj

On May 18, 2010, at 2:37 PM, "Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)" <SWB3 at pge.com>  
wrote:

> Jackalope,
>
> I think Katy's comment "So maybe you better keep that horse's mouth
> closed..." would be considered rude by most people.  (but obviously  
> not
> all).
>
> No, I would not be grateful if someone gave me a case of beer so I  
> could
> do a 24x24x24.  Or a carton of cigars so I can stoke up.  Or a bunch  
> of
> junk food, when my body is desperately craving the nutrition that I  
> have
> missed since my last resupply.  Or a pint of whiskey. Most of us are  
> not
> groveling squirrels or pigeons jumping after every crumb anyone  
> wants to
> throw at us.  Most of us are successful people enjoying our hike in  
> the
> present moment and not salivating at a bunch of junk food at the end  
> of
> the hike.  We hikers are not  all not destitute and uneducated.   
> Please
> show us more respect than that
>
> If I knew that the Big Walker Pass Food Ruck was just a junk food
> festival with exclusionary judgmental people, then I would gladly pass
> it by.
>
> However, it does appear from the emails below that there will be  
> healthy
> alternatives at this festival and that the people will be generally  
> very
> decent.
>
> Thanks,
> Symbiosis
> ________________________________
>
> From: Jenn Von Bork [mailto:dr.jackalope at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:51 PM
> To: Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 76
>
>
> I didn't find Katy's email rude at all. Your request for specific  
> foods
> at a free, entirely volunteer-run event is pretty entitled. Having the
> nerve to criticize the choice of some of those free items
> is...well...worse. You see, in these difficult economic times, some of
> us have greatly reduced incomes and some of us are operating with no
> income at all. We come there, like Katy said, because we enjoy helping
> and hanging out with hikers. We spend way too much money on whatever  
> our
> hearts desire to provide (often things that we have craved to no end  
> on
> the trail). So when you show up, either be very grateful that we are
> there no matter what we are providing or please keep on moving. I  
> would
> say that 99% of hikers are extremely grateful for any amount of trail
> magic they receive on their journey. The small percentage of folks  
> that
> gripe about free food and drink provided out of the kindness of the
> hearts of others threaten to take the "magic" right out of it.
> Peace,
> jackalope
>
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Blanchard, Sym (GT&D) <SWB3 at pge.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>    Goodness.  Some people can be awfully touchy, (grumpy), and
> rude.  Let's
>    be civil ... Please.
>
>    It was not clear to me from the emails that there was a healthy
> option.
>    So I do appreciate the clarification.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>    Message: 1
>    Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:42:03 -0700 (PDT)
>    From: goslowgofar <goslowgofar at yahoo.com>
>    Subject: Re: [pct-l] Big Walker Pass Food Ruck
> Donuts/Fruit/healthy
>           food!
>    To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>    Message-ID: <394960.16066.qm at web112319.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>    For heaven's sake!!!? We are doing this for FREE because we
> enjoy
>    feeding and hanging out with the hikers.? You are not required
> to stop,
>    camp, or eat with us.? And, by the way, if you had actually read
> all the
>    messages relating to the Walker Pass Food/Ruck, etc....you would
> know
>    that there will be lots of food besides donuts...fresh fruit,
> home
>    cooked meals prepared by Meadow/Manyon and Jackalope (with
> vegetarian
>    options - is that okay for your specific tastes and needs?)? You
> are
>    welcome to join us...or not join us.? This is Trail Magic...it
> comes
>    serendipitously...you don't get to dictate what/when/how/where
> it is. So
>    maybe you better keep that horse's mouth closed...
>    ?
>    Grumpily yours,
>    Katy
>    ?
>    ?
>    Blanchard, Sym (GT&D) SWB3 at pge.com
>    Tue May 18 10:44:41 CDT 2010? writes:
>    I really hate to look a gift horse in the mouth.  But sugary
> donuts
>    after a physically demanding hike?  C'mon.  We are not all still
>    teenagers out there.
>
>    I am 57-1/2 and plan to continue to hike the PCT for many more
> decades.
>    I won't be able to do it if I eat the sugar, fat, processed
> flour, and
>    empty calories found in donuts.   I know they taste really good,
> but
>    they do wreck havoc on most people's bodies (especially us ol'
> folks).
>
>    I appreciate your thoughtfulness and enthusiasm. But would you
> be able
>    to slip in something for the more health-conscious?  I would be
> happy to
>    contribute.
>
>    Thanks for all your efforts!!   I am looking forward to seeing
> you at
>    Walker Pass.
>
>    Symbiosis
>
>
>
>
>
>    ------------------------------
>
>    Message: 2
>    Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:51:19 -0700
>    From: "Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)" <SWB3 at pge.com>
>    Subject: Re: [pct-l] Big Walker Pass Food Ruck Donuts
>    To: "Jenn Von Bork "
>
> <IMCEAMAILTO-dr+2Ejackalope+40gmail+2Ecom at exchange.pge.com
> <mailto:IMCEAMAILTO-dr%2B2Ejackalope%2B40gmail 
> %2B2Ecom at exchange.pge.com>
>> ,
>           <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>    Message-ID:
>
>
> <2D6091CBA88ABB468F6D421FCA849F7894F6D3 at exchange15.Utility.pge.com>
>    Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>    Thanks for the clarification.  From the previous emails, it did
> not
>    sound like there would be any healthy food to eat.
>
>    ________________________________
>
>    From: Jenn Von Bork [mailto:dr.jackalope at gmail.com]
>    Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:49 AM
>    To: Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)
>    Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>    Subject: Re: [pct-l] Big Walker Pass Food Ruck Donuts
>
>
>
>    They will be plenty of healthy food there. It is hard to keep
> fresh food
>    good for days on end in the heat but we do our best. If you
> don't want
>    the donuts, don't eat 'em.
>    Jackalope
>
>    sent from my phone
>
>           On May 18, 2010 8:44 AM, "Blanchard, Sym (GT&D)"
> <SWB3 at pge.com>
>    wrote:
>
>
>           I really hate to look a gift horse in the mouth.  But
> sugary
>    donuts
>           after a physically demanding hike?  C'mon.  We are not
> all still
>           teenagers out there.
>
>           I am 57-1/2 and plan to continue to hike the PCT for many
> more
>    decades.
>           I won't be able to do it if I eat the sugar, fat,
> processed
>    flour, and
>           empty calories found in donuts.   I know they taste
> really good,
>    but
>           they do wreck havoc on most people's bodies (especially
> us ol'
>    folks).
>
>           I appreciate your thoughtfulness and enthusiasm. But
> would you
>    be able
>           to slip in something for the more health-conscious?  I
> would be
>    happy to
>           contribute.
>
>           Thanks for all your efforts!!   I am looking forward to
> seeing
>    you at
>           Walker Pass.
>
>           Symbiosis
>           ------------------------------
>
>           Message: 8
>           Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 06:08:57 -0400
>           From: hiker97 at aol.com
>           Subject: [pct-l] Big Walker Pass Food Ruck Donuts
>           To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>           Message-ID:
>    <8CCC164999A1BC2-1768-909A at Webmail-d105.sysops.aol.com>
>           Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>           Yes, once again, Switchback has done his research.  I can
> get 28
>           delicious donuts for $14.99 at my favorite donut shop.
> This
>    will be for
>           the Ruck June 3-6 at Walker Pass for PCT hikers.  I guess
> I will
>    have to
>           get 2 or 3 boxes.
>
>           I was down at the bakery today looking through the glass
> windows
>    at all
>           the varieties.  It was amazing.  I could not believe all
> the
>    hiker power
>           goodies.  The smell was unbelievable.  I especially liked
> the
>    chocolate
>           donut logs.  They are so good.  The donuts with sprinkles
> looked
>    like
>           they would be a big hit too.  Another of my favorites are
> the
>    coconut
>           icing donuts.  Super tasty.  Those make Kennedy Meadows a
> given.
>
>           I coordinated with the baker for my massive order on the
> morning
>    of
>           Thursday, June 3.  Then I drive to Walker Pass.  I can
> imagine
>    the smell
>           as I drive into the camp area in the afternoon.  I open
> the door
>    of my
>           vehicle and hikers start to faint.  They cannot believe
> it.
>    They think
>           they are in heaven.
>
>           ------------------------------
>
>           Message: 9
>           Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 06:47:09 -0400
>           From: hiker97 at aol.com
>           Subject: [pct-l] Big Walker Pass Food Ruck
>           To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>           Message-ID:
>    <8CCC2FC44C0C927-5C8-E2FD at webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com>
>           Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>           I hear from master chef, Manyon Ed, that he has steak and
>    chicken on the
>           menu for Ruck meals.  This is fantastic.  This is
> unbelievable.
>    This
>           stupendous.  June 3-6 is shaping up as a thru-hiker
> feast.  A
>    culinary
>           buffet of biblical proportions.
>
>           Along with my donut/roll pastry explosion of flavors and
> tasty
>    goodies,
>           dessert will not be a problem.  Hundreds of donuts will
> be
>    available to
>           hikers.  Every flavor, every size, every texture will be
>    beckoning the
>           hungry hiker to have just one more.  Many fingers will be
> licked
>    to
>           gobble up the last morsel of icing and flavor.
>
>           Yes, this will be the premier event for the 2010 PCT
> hiking
>    season.
>           This is the Ruck of all Rucks.  This will be recorded in
> many a
>    trail
>           journal as the stop that got them through to the Sierras
> and
>    beyond.
>           Hikers will be thinking of Walker Pass as they bang along
> the
>    trail.
>           They will be daydreaming of pastries and hearty plates of
> food
>    ---- a
>           smorgasbord delight dancing in their heads.
>
>           Hungrily,
>
>           Switchback the Trail Pirate
>
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