[pct-l] Antibiotics

[Tortoise]

Well this thread piqued my interest.  so here's what MedLine says:

>         Cryptosporidiosis
>         Also called: Crypto
>
>         Cryptosporidiosis (crypto) is an illness caused by a parasite.
>         The parasite lives in soil, food and water. It may also be on
>         surfaces that have been contaminated with waste. You can
>         become infected if you swallow the parasite.
>
>         The most common symptom of crypto is watery diarrhea. Other
>         symptoms include
>
>             * Dehydration
>             * Weight loss
>             * Stomach cramps or pain
>             * Fever
>             * Nausea
>             * Vomiting
>
>         Most people with crypto get better with no treatment, but
>         crypto can cause serious problems in people with weak immune
>         systems such as in people with AIDS
>         <http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/aidsandinfections.html>.
>         To reduce your risk of crypto, wash your hands often, avoid
>         water that may be infected, and wash or peel fresh fruits and
>         vegetables before eating.
>
>         Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
>
        and


              Treatment

>         Most people who have healthy immune systems will recover
>         without treatment. Diarrhea can be managed by drinking plenty
>         of fluids to prevent dehydration. People who are in poor
>         health or who have weakened immune systems are at higher risk
>         for more severe and prolonged illness. Young children and
>         pregnant women may be more susceptible to dehydration
>         resulting from diarrhea and should drink plenty of fluids
>         while ill. Rapid loss of fluids from diarrhea may be
>         especially life threatening to babies. Therefore, parents
>         should talk to their health care providers about fluid
>         replacement therapy options for infants.
>
>         Anti-diarrheal medicine may help slow down diarrhea, but a
>         health care provider should be consulted before such medicine
>         is taken. Nitazoxanide has been FDA-approved for treatment of
>         diarrhea caused by /Cryptosporidium/ in people with healthy
>         immune systems and is available by prescription. However, the
>         effectiveness of nitazoxanide in immunosuppressed individuals
>         is unclear.
>
>         HIV-positive individuals who suspect they have
>         cryptosporidiosis should contact their health care provider.
>         For those persons with AIDS, anti-retroviral therapy that
>         improves the immune status will also decrease or eliminate
>         symptoms of cryptosporidiosis. However, even if symptoms
>         disappear, cryptosporidiosis is often not curable and the
>         symptoms may return if the immune status worsens.
>

and here's what Wikipedia says about grapefruit extract in small part:

>     There is considerable scientific evidence that the anti-microbial
>     activity associated with grapefruit seed extract is attributable
>     to the contamination or adulteration of commercial GSE
>     preparations with synthetic antimicrobials or preservatives.^
>     <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit_seed_extract#cite_note-Preservatives-18>
>     [snip] There is considerable scientific evidence that the
>     anti-microbial activity associated with grapefruit seed extract is
>     attributable to the contamination or adulteration of commercial
>     GSE preparations with synthetic antimicrobials or preservatives.
    see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit_seed_extract


so it seems if one has crypto, one will probably get well with no 
treatment or ineffective treatment or maybe because of the other stuff 
in with the GSE.

be smart, check out a treatment before trying it on yourself or others.

Tortoise

Because truth matters"


On 03/20/10 21:44:41, jason moores wrote:
> Evan,
>
> Consider taking Flagyl to treat any serious water born illnesses.
> Last year my partener became ill around Hikertown. By Kelso Valley the situation required that we catch a ride into Lake Isabella to deal with it (Thanks again Tigger!). We asked the ER doc for Flagyl to deal with the problem. Of course he wouldn't prescribe a heavy antibiotic without running the appropriate tests. We pleaded our case, told him we were homeless and so on. He proceeded to order over $4,000 in tests to cover his butt from malpractice, gave us the Flagyl before he had any of the test results and four days later told us that the tests were inconclusive.
>
> I spoke to a hiker last year in Stehekin who had had a bad bout of Crypto (probably). He proceeded to contact his parents, who are both physicians, to have them call in a script or to send him the Flag.. No dice, not even his own folks could help him here. After describing his symptoms to Scott Williamson, Scott said, "Sounds like Crypto, ya should get yerself some grapefruit seed extract, it'll clear it right up." A few days later he scrounged some extract and damn if Scott wasn't right! His symptoms cleared up within a few days.
>
> On second thought, you say your doc is also your friend? Forget the Flagyl, Viconin would be more useful.
>
> Just sayin'
> jason
>