[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 27, Issue 129
Bill Burge
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On Mar 21, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Justin Smith wrote:
>
> From: Kris Wallace <fiddlekris at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] question for females
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>>> Diane wrote:
>>> If you ever come to a fork in the road and one option is a
>>> hysterectomy,
> take it.
>
> Taken literally ("a fork in the road"), that sounds PAINFUL!! Sure
> that'd
> be an option, but I'd rather eat with it. :-)
>
>>> Diane wrote:
>>> I wish I had known about the Diva cup before I got a hysterectomy.
>>> I wish
> there had been something like that long ago.
>
> Yeah, I'm surprised there aren't more people choosing that (or the sea
> sponges or glad rags, etc) over buying wasteful disposable tampons or
> maxipads. But it's just like disposable plasticware, styrofoam cups,
> and so
> much else in our society -- people choose what they perceive as being
> cheaper or easier over what's better for us & our environment. Of
> course,
> none of it is cheaper in the long run, and what's "easier" does not
> usually
> result in happier experiences. Albeit I'm easily amused, but I get
> such joy
> from using my diva cup or glad rags rather than going through the
> whole
> routine with the conventional products.
>
> happy period-less hiking to you!
> Kris
>
>
>
> Inspiring Children to Explore the Outdoors
> www.inspireout.com
>
>
>
>
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>> 1. Re: Plantar Fascitis (Matthew Edwards)
>> 2. Re: question for females (Kris Wallace)
>> 3. Kilts (wctrekker at dslextreme.com)
>> 4. Fwd: Plantar fasciitis (shelly skye)
>> 5. Re: Hiking Kilts (CHUCK CHELIN)
>> 6. Re: Hiking Kilts (Nitnoid1)
>> 7. Re: night light (giniajim)
>> 8. Independence for resupply versus Lone Pine (Teresa Skye)
>> 9. Marmot "Traveller" rain jacket (Matthew Edwards)
>> 10. Re: Independence for resupply versus Lone Pine (DA)
>> 11. Re: White Wolf Lodge (giniajim)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:10:16 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Plantar Fascitis
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>> Hello Gang!
>> I was an avid (rabid!?) hiker even before the PCT last year. I had
>> carried 35 lb packs into the Sierra for 100 mile trips and hiked
>> every weekend with a daypack. Never had any pain in my feet that
>> was not due to kicking something or stepping on broken glass at the
>> beach.
>> Last year my feet were like a rock untill I began to increase my
>> daily mileage above 25 MI/day.
>> I increasingly began to have classic Plantar Fascitis pain. I would
>> stretch each morning and massage my feet at night as well as
>> elevate them while sleeping. All of that helped but the pain
>> continued all the way to Canada and has just now completely
>> dissappeard.
>> Obviously everyones feet and experience will be different but I
>> just wanted to put this out there.
>> I was initially a little concerned but after talking to and reading
>> the journals of other folks I found out it is quite common.
>> I must add that the pain was most evident after sitting or sleeping
>> and would mostly vanish after the first couple of miles in the day.
>> In my case I am almost 100% certain my Plantar Fascitis pain began
>> when my "big mile" hiking began.
>> Anyhow, the pain was not crippling and there seems to be no lasting
>> ill effects.
>> I think all in all I will try to keep a lower MIle/day yet steadier
>> pace(less lollygagging in towns!) for my next hike. CDT2010!!!
>> YEEHAA!
>> I know this post is pretty general but I wanted to let future
>> thru's know my experience with PF and to be wary of your foot
>> health but never Afraid!
>> God(Insert appropriate Diety) Bless and God Speed Class of 2010!
>> Cheers-Iceaxe
>>
>> HikeStrong2010.com Benefits Cancer Research
>> Sent on the go from my Peek
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:38:21 -0400
>> From: Kris Wallace <fiddlekris at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] question for females
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
>> <2ac968271003201138l438b25oa820f344910da814 at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>>>> Diane wrote:
>>>> If you ever come to a fork in the road and one option is a
>>>> hysterectomy,
>> take it.
>>
>> Taken literally ("a fork in the road"), that sounds PAINFUL!! Sure
>> that'd
>> be an option, but I'd rather eat with it. :-)
>>
>>>> Diane wrote:
>>>> I wish I had known about the Diva cup before I got a
>>>> hysterectomy. I wish
>> there had been something like that long ago.
>>
>> Yeah, I'm surprised there aren't more people choosing that (or the
>> sea
>> sponges or glad rags, etc) over buying wasteful disposable tampons or
>> maxipads. But it's just like disposable plasticware, styrofoam
>> cups, and so
>> much else in our society -- people choose what they perceive as being
>> cheaper or easier over what's better for us & our environment. Of
>> course,
>> none of it is cheaper in the long run, and what's "easier" does not
>> usually
>> result in happier experiences. Albeit I'm easily amused, but I get
>> such joy
>> from using my diva cup or glad rags rather than going through the
>> whole
>> routine with the conventional products.
>>
>> happy period-less hiking to you!
>> Kris
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:45:56 +0000
>> From: wctrekker at dslextreme.com
>> Subject: [pct-l] Kilts
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>> I remember a hiker(Handlebar) who had an unplanned glissade on
>> Baden Powell while wearing a kilt. It took awhile for him to
>> recover from the road rash. It didn't stop his hike.
>> He did share his experience at the KO as "things not to do while
>> wearing a kilt."
>> Bill
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:56:57 -0700
>> From: shelly skye <shelbel26 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Fwd: Plantar fasciitis
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>> Hello Wildflower,
>> Don't know if this will help but I had terrible p.f. and a
>> combination of Rolfing and barefooting has remarkably made my feet
>> stronger and so far, pain free. The Rolfing breaks up the scar
>> tissue from previous injuries and the barefooting has strengthened
>> them. I haven't yet had the opportunity to put long trail miles on
>> my feet since they are better but I am encouraged by my progress. I
>> hope something works for you as I know how painful it is.
>> Shelly Skye
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:32:23 -0700
>> From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiking Kilts
>> To: "james8313 @dslextreme.com" <james8313 at dslextreme.com>
>> Cc: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Good evening,
>>
>>
>>
>> Last year I hiked about 600 miles in loose association with
>> Freebie, who was
>> a kilt wearer. His kilt looked to be of average weight ? meaning
>> too heavy
>> for me. He hiked swing-free, but whenever he stopped for a while
>> where he
>> would possibly sit and lounge around he took a moment to wiggle
>> into a pair
>> of shorts under the kilt. If other intended kilt wearers think they
>> need to
>> do likewise they must factor in the additional weight of the shorts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steel-Eye
>>
>> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT ? 1965
>>
>> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
>>
>> http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:03 PM, james8313 @dslextreme.com <
>> james8313 at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree that the Elkommando looks heavy and the bottom does not
>>> flair
>>> enough.
>>>
>>> I forgot to mention that the one I made from the simplicity
>>> pattern with
>>> pleats was in a cotton or
>>> cotton blend and weighs 6 oz.. Ok for a few days but Nylon would
>>> be better
>>> for the long haul.
>>> If I can find the correct material I should be able to cut off a
>>> oz or 2
>>> by
>>> also making less pleats.
>>>
>>> I did know about the Utilikilt as also mentioned and the running
>>> Kilk is
>>> realy a Skirt (manskirt) as
>>> it is basicly a tube.. and it is a little short for Hiking if you go
>>> commando..I define a Kilt as a rectangle
>>> of fabric that overlaps in the front -- with or without pleats..
>>> the ones
>>> I have made do not have pockets
>>> but did not find it a problem for the distances that I hiked.
>>> Pockets in
>>> shirt and on the pack belt to hold maps etc..
>>>
>>> Yosemite James
>>>
>>> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:32:57 -0500
>>> From: David Ellzey <david at xpletive.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiking Kilts
>>> Yosemite James,
>>>
>>> I too like the idea of a kilt and took a look at all on your list.
>>> The
>>> Elkommando looks the nicest but seems heavier than I would prefer,
>>> the
>>> RunningKilt is light but I'm not fond of its design.
>>>
>>> Hopefully some kilt wearing hikers will chime in on the subject.
>>>
>>> BigToe
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:34:01 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Nitnoid1 <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiking Kilts
>> To: "james8313 @dslextreme.com" <james8313 at dslextreme.com>
>> Cc: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Message-ID: <497642.9584.qm at web33507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>> James,
>>
>> I used a Sportkilt last year on a JMT backpack trip. I did not go
>> commando, I wore synthetic boxers. The kilt is made of synthetic
>> material so it is a lightweight kilt but still heavier than my
>> shorts. The kilt weight is of no concern to me. My legs are short
>> and the kilt is a little too long. I'll shorten it for this year's
>> campaigns. The color is called Pacific Crest Blue, in a plaid
>> pattern. Maybe I'll wear it at the kick off.
>>
>> The Incredible Bulk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2010, at 3:52 PM, "james8313 @dslextreme.com" <james8313 at dslextreme.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>> This subject has been touched upon but never discussed. For those
>> who have
>> worn a KILT
>> what kind did you wear - would you do it again - advantages and
>> disadvantages - did you
>> go commando or not.How did they work out as you lost weight - were
>> you too
>> hot or cold
>> any suggestions -- what material was it made from..etc.
>>
>> If you have thought about wearing one -- what questions do you have
>> about
>> Kilts.
>>
>> Below you will find some information about ready to wear Kilts and
>> Patterns
>> to make your own.
>>
>> http://www.sportkilt.com Hiking Kilt 79.50
>>
>> http://www.usakilts.com Casual Kilt 99.99
>>
>> http://www.heritageofscotland.com/ Casual Kilt approx 50.00
>>
>> Mountain Hardwear Elkommando Kilt 75.00
>>
>> http://www.runningkilts.com Free Instructions available to make
>> your own
>>
>> Simplicity Pattern 8913 $7.95 -- Celtic Kilt -- I made one that
>> took about
>> 3 yds
>>
>> Yosemeite James
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:34:49 -0400
>> From: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] night light
>> To: "Rebecca Mezoff" <rebecca.mezoff at gmail.com>,
>> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>> Which photon light was this? I've got a key chain light (photon)
>> that's that light, but not really suitable as a camp site light
>> except as an emergency backup.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Rebecca Mezoff
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] night light
>>
>>
>> I thru-hiked the Colorado Trail with a photon light. Weights a
>> fraction of an ounce... but probably won't be enough light for night
>> hiking unless you've got a good moon. I never night hiked with it...
>> and actually haven't tried the new generation. The old one (2003) is
>> still going strong. I even washed it a few weeks ago and it still
>> works. Have replaced the batteries.
>>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:43:04 -0700
>> From: Teresa Skye <tskye1 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Independence for resupply versus Lone Pine
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>> Hi all-we're making final adjustments to our resupply plan and need
>> some
>> advice. Is it easier to leave the trail and get back on by going
>> into Lone
>> Pine, or is it easier to wait and go into Independence via
>> Kearsarge Pass?
>> We're looking at length and difficulty of the detour, also how easy
>> it is to
>> hitch into either town.
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Skyward (Teresa)
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:48:15 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Marmot "Traveller" rain jacket
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>> Hey folks!
>> So I pretty much wore out my Marmot Precip on the PCT using ut as
>> raingear and ground insulation. I went in to (local) Mel Cotton's
>> outdoor stoor and found a replacement precip as well as a newcommer.
>> I found out Marmot makes a "precip traveller" version of the famous
>> jacket.
>> While I chose the traditional precip.. For some folks the fact that
>> the "traveller" covers your "Ass" as well might be worth the extra
>> weight..
>> I can say Washington sent water sideways and upwards so a "full
>> skirt" might have
>> proved usefull.
>> Anyhow, The classic Precip jacket works just fine.. But there is
>> the "traveller" option "long skirt" as well.
>> This year on the CDT when N. New Mex and S. Colo. Scares me. I will
>> hug the ground with a Marmot Precip between myself and the
>> elements. Damn.. If they were only lightning proof!
>> Cheers-Iceaxe
>> HikeStrong2010.com Benefits Cancer Research
>> Sent on the go from my Peek
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:51:29 +0000
>> From: "DA" <dabruce at tmo.blackberry.net>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Independence for resupply versus Lone Pine
>> To: "Teresa Skye" <tskye1 at gmail.com>, pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net,
>> pct-l at backcountry.net
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>> I would say resupplying in independence is expensive and lean. Gas
>> stations that have tried to pick up the slack for the market
>> closing. But, and if its not closed awsome post office to mail
>> ressupply. Walk to the end of the treelined road after you reload
>> at the post office, west, and sit and wait someone will always pick
>> you up. Some cheesy signs for paid rides around but why? Hotels are
>> nice, to ok. Every year I stop in independence, I love going over
>> kersarge, so many ways. I also love seeing Ranger George every
>> year. That's all I have to say about that.
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Teresa Skye
>> Sender: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: [pct-l] Independence for resupply versus Lone Pine
>> Sent: Mar 20, 2010 5:43 PM
>>
>> Hi all-we're making final adjustments to our resupply plan and need
>> some
>> advice. Is it easier to leave the trail and get back on by going
>> into Lone
>> Pine, or is it easier to wait and go into Independence via
>> Kearsarge Pass?
>> We're looking at length and difficulty of the detour, also how easy
>> it is to
>> hitch into either town.
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Skyward (Teresa)
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:57:23 -0400
>> From: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] White Wolf Lodge
>> To: "Aaron Wallace" <aaron at skeeky.com>, "PCT-L"
>> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>> Can hikers buy supplies at Glen Aulin and the other High Sierra
>> Camps? That's something I hadn't thought of.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Aaron Wallace
>> To: giniajim ; PCT-L
>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:21 AM
>> Subject: RE: [pct-l] White Wolf Lodge
>>
>>
>>
>> White Wolf Lodge generally has minimal supplies at its store--the
>> variety would be more comparable to what you'd find at Glen Aulin and
>> the other High Sierra Camps than the Tuolumne Meadows store. My guess
>> is you'd be able to purchase various candies, batteries, and maybe
>> a few
>> freeze-dried or canned items. There is also a small restaurant where
>> you could get dinner or breakfast. A daily hikers bus that travels
>> between Yosemite Valley and Tuolumne Meadows stops at White Wolf.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
>> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of giniajim
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:04 PM
>> To: PCT-L
>> Subject: [pct-l] White Wolf Lodge
>>
>> Can one resupply at White Wolf in Yosemite?
>>
>>
>>
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