[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 27, Issue 129

Sun Mar 21 20:15:02 CDT 2010

From: Kris Wallace <fiddlekris at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] question for females
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>> Diane wrote:
>> If you ever come to a fork in the road and one option is a hysterectomy,
take it.

Taken literally ("a fork in the road"), that sounds PAINFUL!! Sure that'd
be an option, but I'd rather eat with it. :-)

>> Diane wrote:
>> I wish I had known about the Diva cup before I got a hysterectomy. I wish
there had been something like that long ago.

Yeah, I'm surprised there aren't more people choosing that (or the sea
sponges or glad rags, etc) over buying wasteful disposable tampons or
maxipads. But it's just like disposable plasticware, styrofoam cups, and so
much else in our society -- people choose what they perceive as being
cheaper or easier over what's better for us & our environment. Of course,
none of it is cheaper in the long run, and what's "easier" does not usually
result in happier experiences. Albeit I'm easily amused, but I get such joy
from using my diva cup or glad rags rather than going through the whole
routine with the conventional products.

happy period-less hiking to you!
Kris

Inspiring Children to Explore the Outdoors
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> 1. Re: Plantar Fascitis (Matthew Edwards)
> 2. Re: question for females (Kris Wallace)
> 3. Kilts (wctrekker at dslextreme.com)
> 4. Fwd: Plantar fasciitis (shelly skye)
> 5. Re: Hiking Kilts (CHUCK CHELIN)
> 6. Re: Hiking Kilts (Nitnoid1)
> 7. Re: night light (giniajim)
> 8. Independence for resupply versus Lone Pine (Teresa Skye)
> 9. Marmot "Traveller" rain jacket (Matthew Edwards)
> 10. Re: Independence for resupply versus Lone Pine (DA)
> 11. Re: White Wolf Lodge (giniajim)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:10:16 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Plantar Fascitis
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Hello Gang!
> I was an avid (rabid!?) hiker even before the PCT last year. I had carried 35 lb packs into the Sierra for 100 mile trips and hiked every weekend with a daypack. Never had any pain in my feet that was not due to kicking something or stepping on broken glass at the beach.
> Last year my feet were like a rock untill I began to increase my daily mileage above 25 MI/day.
> I increasingly began to have classic Plantar Fascitis pain. I would stretch each morning and massage my feet at night as well as elevate them while sleeping. All of that helped but the pain continued all the way to Canada and has just now completely dissappeard. 
> Obviously everyones feet and experience will be different but I just wanted to put this out there.
> I was initially a little concerned but after talking to and reading the journals of other folks I found out it is quite common.
> I must add that the pain was most evident after sitting or sleeping and would mostly vanish after the first couple of miles in the day.
> In my case I am almost 100% certain my Plantar Fascitis pain began when my "big mile" hiking began.
> Anyhow, the pain was not crippling and there seems to be no lasting ill effects.
> I think all in all I will try to keep a lower MIle/day yet steadier pace(less lollygagging in towns!) for my next hike. CDT2010!!! YEEHAA!
> I know this post is pretty general but I wanted to let future thru's know my experience with PF and to be wary of your foot health but never Afraid!
> God(Insert appropriate Diety) Bless and God Speed Class of 2010!
> Cheers-Iceaxe 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:38:21 -0400
> From: Kris Wallace <fiddlekris at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] question for females
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> >> Diane wrote:
> >> If you ever come to a fork in the road and one option is a hysterectomy,
> take it.
> 
> Taken literally ("a fork in the road"), that sounds PAINFUL!! Sure that'd
> be an option, but I'd rather eat with it. :-)
> 
> >> Diane wrote:
> >> I wish I had known about the Diva cup before I got a hysterectomy. I wish
> there had been something like that long ago.
> 
> Yeah, I'm surprised there aren't more people choosing that (or the sea
> sponges or glad rags, etc) over buying wasteful disposable tampons or
> maxipads. But it's just like disposable plasticware, styrofoam cups, and so
> much else in our society -- people choose what they perceive as being
> cheaper or easier over what's better for us & our environment. Of course,
> none of it is cheaper in the long run, and what's "easier" does not usually
> result in happier experiences. Albeit I'm easily amused, but I get such joy
> from using my diva cup or glad rags rather than going through the whole
> routine with the conventional products.
> 
> happy period-less hiking to you!
> Kris
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:45:56 +0000
> From: wctrekker at dslextreme.com
> Subject: [pct-l] Kilts
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> I remember a hiker(Handlebar) who had an unplanned glissade on Baden Powell while wearing a kilt. It took awhile for him to recover from the road rash. It didn't stop his hike. 
> He did share his experience at the KO as "things not to do while wearing a kilt."
> Bill
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:56:57 -0700
> From: shelly skye <shelbel26 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Fwd: Plantar fasciitis
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> Hello Wildflower,
> Don't know if this will help but I had terrible p.f. and a combination of Rolfing and barefooting has remarkably made my feet stronger and so far, pain free. The Rolfing breaks up the scar tissue from previous injuries and the barefooting has strengthened them. I haven't yet had the opportunity to put long trail miles on my feet since they are better but I am encouraged by my progress. I hope something works for you as I know how painful it is.
> Shelly Skye
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:32:23 -0700
> From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiking Kilts
> To: "james8313 @dslextreme.com" <james8313 at dslextreme.com>
> Cc: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Good evening,
> 
> 
> 
> Last year I hiked about 600 miles in loose association with Freebie, who was
> a kilt wearer. His kilt looked to be of average weight ? meaning too heavy
> for me. He hiked swing-free, but whenever he stopped for a while where he
> would possibly sit and lounge around he took a moment to wiggle into a pair
> of shorts under the kilt. If other intended kilt wearers think they need to
> do likewise they must factor in the additional weight of the shorts.
> 
> 
> 
> Steel-Eye
> 
> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT ? 1965
> 
> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
> 
> http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:03 PM, james8313 @dslextreme.com <
> james8313 at dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> > I agree that the Elkommando looks heavy and the bottom does not flair
> > enough.
> >
> > I forgot to mention that the one I made from the simplicity pattern with
> > pleats was in a cotton or
> > cotton blend and weighs 6 oz.. Ok for a few days but Nylon would be better
> > for the long haul.
> > If I can find the correct material I should be able to cut off a oz or 2
> > by
> > also making less pleats.
> >
> > I did know about the Utilikilt as also mentioned and the running Kilk is
> > realy a Skirt (manskirt) as
> > it is basicly a tube.. and it is a little short for Hiking if you go
> > commando..I define a Kilt as a rectangle
> > of fabric that overlaps in the front -- with or without pleats.. the ones
> > I have made do not have pockets
> > but did not find it a problem for the distances that I hiked. Pockets in
> > shirt and on the pack belt to hold maps etc..
> >
> > Yosemite James
> >
> > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:32:57 -0500
> > From: David Ellzey <david at xpletive.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiking Kilts
> > Yosemite James,
> >
> > I too like the idea of a kilt and took a look at all on your list. The
> > Elkommando looks the nicest but seems heavier than I would prefer, the
> > RunningKilt is light but I'm not fond of its design.
> >
> > Hopefully some kilt wearing hikers will chime in on the subject.
> >
> > BigToe
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:34:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Nitnoid1 <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiking Kilts
> To: "james8313 @dslextreme.com" <james8313 at dslextreme.com>
> Cc: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> James,
> 
> I used a Sportkilt last year on a JMT backpack trip. I did not go commando, I wore synthetic boxers. The kilt is made of synthetic material so it is a lightweight kilt but still heavier than my shorts. The kilt weight is of no concern to me. My legs are short and the kilt is a little too long. I'll shorten it for this year's campaigns. The color is called Pacific Crest Blue, in a plaid pattern. Maybe I'll wear it at the kick off. 
> 
> The Incredible Bulk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 19, 2010, at 3:52 PM, "james8313 @dslextreme.com" <james8313 at dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> This subject has been touched upon but never discussed. For those who have
> worn a KILT
> what kind did you wear - would you do it again - advantages and
> disadvantages - did you
> go commando or not.How did they work out as you lost weight - were you too
> hot or cold
> any suggestions -- what material was it made from..etc.
> 
> If you have thought about wearing one -- what questions do you have about
> Kilts.
> 
> Below you will find some information about ready to wear Kilts and Patterns
> to make your own.
> 
> http://www.sportkilt.com Hiking Kilt 79.50
> 
> http://www.usakilts.com Casual Kilt 99.99
> 
> http://www.heritageofscotland.com/ Casual Kilt approx 50.00
> 
> Mountain Hardwear Elkommando Kilt 75.00
> 
> http://www.runningkilts.com Free Instructions available to make your own
> 
> Simplicity Pattern 8913 $7.95 -- Celtic Kilt -- I made one that took about
> 3 yds
> 
> Yosemeite James
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:34:49 -0400
> From: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] night light
> To: "Rebecca Mezoff" <rebecca.mezoff at gmail.com>,
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Which photon light was this? I've got a key chain light (photon) that's that light, but not really suitable as a camp site light except as an emergency backup.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Rebecca Mezoff 
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net 
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] night light
> 
> 
> I thru-hiked the Colorado Trail with a photon light. Weights a 
> fraction of an ounce... but probably won't be enough light for night 
> hiking unless you've got a good moon. I never night hiked with it... 
> and actually haven't tried the new generation. The old one (2003) is 
> still going strong. I even washed it a few weeks ago and it still 
> works. Have replaced the batteries.
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:43:04 -0700
> From: Teresa Skye <tskye1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Independence for resupply versus Lone Pine
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> Hi all-we're making final adjustments to our resupply plan and need some
> advice. Is it easier to leave the trail and get back on by going into Lone
> Pine, or is it easier to wait and go into Independence via Kearsarge Pass?
> We're looking at length and difficulty of the detour, also how easy it is to
> hitch into either town.
> Thanks in advance!
> Skyward (Teresa)
> 
> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:48:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Matthew Edwards <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Marmot "Traveller" rain jacket
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> Hey folks!
> So I pretty much wore out my Marmot Precip on the PCT using ut as raingear and ground insulation. I went in to (local) Mel Cotton's outdoor stoor and found a replacement precip as well as a newcommer.
> I found out Marmot makes a "precip traveller" version of the famous jacket.
> While I chose the traditional precip.. For some folks the fact that the "traveller" covers your "Ass" as well might be worth the extra weight..
> I can say Washington sent water sideways and upwards so a "full skirt" might have
> proved usefull.
> Anyhow, The classic Precip jacket works just fine.. But there is the "traveller" option "long skirt" as well.
> This year on the CDT when N. New Mex and S. Colo. Scares me. I will hug the ground with a Marmot Precip between myself and the elements. Damn.. If they were only lightning proof!
> Cheers-Iceaxe
> HikeStrong2010.com Benefits Cancer Research
> Sent on the go from my Peek
> 
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:51:29 +0000
> From: "DA" <dabruce at tmo.blackberry.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Independence for resupply versus Lone Pine
> To: "Teresa Skye" <tskye1 at gmail.com>, pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net,
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> I would say resupplying in independence is expensive and lean. Gas stations that have tried to pick up the slack for the market closing. But, and if its not closed awsome post office to mail ressupply. Walk to the end of the treelined road after you reload at the post office, west, and sit and wait someone will always pick you up. Some cheesy signs for paid rides around but why? Hotels are nice, to ok. Every year I stop in independence, I love going over kersarge, so many ways. I also love seeing Ranger George every year. That's all I have to say about that.
> ------Original Message------
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> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Independence for resupply versus Lone Pine
> Sent: Mar 20, 2010 5:43 PM
> 
> Hi all-we're making final adjustments to our resupply plan and need some
> advice. Is it easier to leave the trail and get back on by going into Lone
> Pine, or is it easier to wait and go into Independence via Kearsarge Pass?
> We're looking at length and difficulty of the detour, also how easy it is to
> hitch into either town.
> Thanks in advance!
> Skyward (Teresa)
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:57:23 -0400
> From: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] White Wolf Lodge
> To: "Aaron Wallace" <aaron at skeeky.com>, "PCT-L"
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> Can hikers buy supplies at Glen Aulin and the other High Sierra Camps? That's something I hadn't thought of. 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Aaron Wallace 
> To: giniajim ; PCT-L 
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:21 AM
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] White Wolf Lodge
> 
> 
> 
> White Wolf Lodge generally has minimal supplies at its store--the
> variety would be more comparable to what you'd find at Glen Aulin and
> the other High Sierra Camps than the Tuolumne Meadows store. My guess
> is you'd be able to purchase various candies, batteries, and maybe a few
> freeze-dried or canned items. There is also a small restaurant where
> you could get dinner or breakfast. A daily hikers bus that travels
> between Yosemite Valley and Tuolumne Meadows stops at White Wolf.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of giniajim
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:04 PM
> To: PCT-L
> Subject: [pct-l] White Wolf Lodge
> 
> Can one resupply at White Wolf in Yosemite? 
> 
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