[pct-l] Printing Halfmile maps in color

jeff.singewald at comcast.net jeff.singewald at comcast.net
Thu Jan 7 16:40:56 CST 2010 


Yeah, great use of our tax dollars!  The colleges are able to offer this to their student body with tuition and tax money.  Probably not a good solution, but I guess if you don't have kids in college right now, you probably are not aware of how much we pay for these services. 



Maybe we could put out a plea to the list to have map caches (similar to water caches) along the way and the cache maintainers could supply copies of these maps for the next sections (tic). 



Jeff 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Austin Williams" <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com> 
To: "Eugene" <atetuna at hotmail.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net 
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2010 2:22:33 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Printing Halfmile maps in color 

The short answer is: find a college student.  Many colleges offer color 
printing to thier students for as little $0.30 per page.  At my college its 
$0.10 per page.  I've never found a cheaper color printing option.  The 
idea, I think, is that their tuition offsets the printing costs.  Not sure 
how they could afford it otherwise. 

Hope it helps, 

-Austin 




On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Eugene <atetuna at hotmail.com> wrote: 

> 
> Okay, this was bothering me.  I want color maps, but every way I've looked 
> up is prohibitively expensive.  I've been trying to find cheaper way to 
> print maps.  Buying is cheap laser printer is $250, or $400, or $550, etc, 
> depending on how long toner lasts.  Inkjets get pricey too, even if you 
> refill your own cartridges.  Even online printing like Kinko's is still a 
> couple hundred.  Still, I think I found a solution. 
> Publishing a book. 
> I'm trying www.lulu.com and it's saying it can do all 442 pages in a coil 
> bound paperback (easy for page flipping) for less than $100.  Another 
> advantage to coil bound is that get more coils and to make smaller section 
> books.  A hardcover is about $10 more, but formatting the page size may be a 
> nightmare. 
> I'm working on mine right now, but it's a real hassle.  First you have to 
> make sure fonts are embedded, then rotate all pages the same way, then 
> somehow convince Lulu that your pages are 8.5x11, not 11x8.5.  The last step 
> is what's killing me.  I have a single page, and no matter which way I 
> rotate it, Lulu says I have it wrong. 
> Anyway, let me know if this is something you guys are interested in, and 
> I'll share more details, or even share the final product that you can buy 
> off of Lulu. 
> - Eugene 
> 
> From: atetuna at hotmail.com 
> To: evan.silverberg at lfg.com 
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Digital maps 
> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 15:20:29 -0800 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The Kinko's website is quoting over $3 a page for color laminated sheets. 
>  At that cost I'd rather buy a brand new color laser printer on Newegg 
> ($100) and a couple packs of waterproof paper. 
> Let's see, let's trim the Kinko price down to $3 for a double-side pages, 
> assuming you can get some kind of discount.  Halfmile's maps are 442 pages. 
>  That would cost over $650 to print. 
> Let's take the cost of a printer ($140), an extra set of color cartridges 
> ($200), and 250 pages of waterproof paper ($125).  That option costs $540. 
>  This option is a lot cheaper if you shop around for toner, somehow stretch 
> the starter toner to do all the maps, or find a way to refill the cartridges 
> yourself.  I'm sure it's possible.  Maybe I'll research that later on. 
> Either way, I can't believe how expensive it is! 
> - Eugene 
> 
> > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:39:11 -0500 
> > From: Evan.Silverberg at lfg.com 
> > To: subs at kronhead.com; pct-l at backcountry.net 
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Digital maps 
> > 
> > Or why-not just laminate them before you leave. They'll be protected, 
> > last longer, the when you finish the PCT, you can hang them on your 
> > wall... 
> > 
> > 
> > Evan Silverberg 
> > Lincoln Financial Group 
> > 
> > Field Instructor 
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> > Email: help at lfasupport.com 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net 
> > [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Dan Kronstadt 
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:37 PM 
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net 
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Digital maps 
> > 
> > There is inkjet paper that is called "waterproof" - but I am not sure if 
> > 
> > you also need special inks or not. 
> > 
> > Dan 
> > 
> > Erik The Black wrote: 
> > > If you are bending over a spring gathering water and your maps 
> > accidentally 
> > > slide off your pack right into the pool of water, you can just pull 
> > them out 
> > > and dry them in the sun (as long as you didn't make the mistake of 
> > printing 
> > > your own maps with an inkjet printer, in which case they will be 
> > smudged 
> > > beyond recognition). 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > It's much better to carry a set of real paper maps (preferably printed 
> > using 
> > > a laser printer or better so they will not fade, smudge and smear from 
> > > raindrops, fingerprints and moisture, as home-made inkjet prints will 
> > do) 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Happy trails, 
> > > -Erik the Black 
> > > www.blackwoodspress.com 
> > > 
> > > 
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