[pct-l] Poison Oak

Thu Feb 18 13:36:29 CST 2010

I'm pretty positive u won't have to worry about it in most areas...the only time I even heard word about it last year was in Belden...there was a all weekend rave and well some of the peeps got a little out of hand in the libation department and rolled around in it on accident...man he was a mess....but yeh other than that...never even saw it!

patti Sugar Moma PCT 09!
www.hikestrong2010.com hiking again in 2010 for cancer! 

--- On Wed, 2/17/10, Justin Smith <justinsmith91 at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Justin Smith <justinsmith91 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Poison Oak
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 12:30 PM

If I hear the word poison oak it seems like I get it.  I am going to be carrying a small tube of Zanfel.  It is pretty magical.  Quite costly for a 1oz tube (found it at Costco for 26$) but really does zap-it pretty quick.  Hope this helps best of luck staying clear.

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> 1. Re: Hiker Nutrition (Dan Africk)
> 2. poison oak (Jocelyn Sutton)
> 3. Re: high fat food; (dicentra)
> 4. Re: Karo Syrup and Peanut Butter (tom aterno)
> 5. FW: Snow Course for SoCal? (Ground Pounder)
> 6. Re: trail clothing (Nitnoid1)
> 7. Re: Hiker Nutrition (patti kulesz)
> 8. Dehydrated v freezedried (Jim Keener ( J J ))
> 9. Re: Dehydrated v freezedried (dicentra)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:15:37 -0500
> From: Dan Africk <danstheman at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiker Nutrition
> To: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Thanks, I found the link to that info online ant it's good stuff:
> 
> http://www.thru-hiker.com/articles/pack_light_eat_right.php
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:52 AM, CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net> wrote:
> > Good morning, Dan,
> >
> >
> >
> > For good, solid information regarding hiker nutrition that?s based upon both
> > science and experience I again recommend, ?Pack Light, Eat Right? by Brenda
> > L. Braaten, Ph.D, R.D.
> >
> >
> >
> > You may be surprised at the recommended percentage of protein.
> >
> >
> >
> > Enjoy your planning,
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:25:09 -0700
> From: Jocelyn Sutton <jocelyn.sutton at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] poison oak
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Growing up in Northern California, I was constantly battling poison oak, and
> I know how much of it there will be on the PCT. Technu works great if you
> have clean water to rinse with, but otherwise ...
> 
> I have heard of some kind of a spray that neutralizes the oil onsite, but I
> have no idea what it's called or where to get it. Anyone heard of this?
> 
> Thx,
> jocelyn
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:31:14 -0800 (PST)
> From: dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] high fat food;
> To: Judy Gross <heartfire at heartfiregowns.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> A couple of resource links for those of you who do not have a dehydrator.
> 
> Packit Gourmet?- tell them Dicentra sent you! They are familiar with thru hikers and resupply options. They will work with you for whatever you need. Their customer service rocks! So do their products.
> 
> Harmony House Foods
> 
> Just Tomatoes (can also be found in higher end grocery stores)
> 
> Trader Joes also carries TONS of great hiker friendly foods. I get all my dried fruit and nuts there.
> 
> ~Dicentra
> 
> ?
> http://www.onepanwonders.com?~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
> http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
> 
> ?
> 
> 
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> From: Judy Gross <heartfire at heartfiregowns.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 9:01:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] high fat food;
> 
> Yes, Hummus is good, you can make your won and dehydrate it, then just add
> cold water about 30 min prior to lunch.? Take a can of chickpeas,
> blenderize, add other seasonings - lemon or lime juice, hot sauce, etc, even
> peanut butter to this is really good, dehydrate it and crush it into powder.
> You can even find it in powder form in the bulk bins at places like Whole
> Foods.
> 
> >>>Hummus and crackers make an excellent lunch. A little olive oil in the
> hummus gives you good calories. A little hummus goes a long way, so it's
> light and you can stock up and bounce it ahead to keep yourself stocked. I
> always had ample energy for most of the afternoon after a good lunch of this
> stuff.<<<
> 
> If you make your own dinners and dehydrate them, then you don't get those
> chemicals. - make the whole meal - not the components, cook the pasta add
> the sauce and cheese and THEN dehydrate it.? Nothing to put together on the
> trail, just add hot water.? Your meal is spiced/flavored the way you like
> it, not added spices to have to carry.
> 
> >>>Dinner stayed as good as I could do. But I fail to see how any of the
> dehydrated things I cooked could be as nutritious as a real dinner.? 
> It's full of chemicals and it's very scary to think that a lot of it was
> stuff normal people make for dinner every day. <<<
> 
> Judy
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> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:31:33 -0800 (PST)
> From: tom aterno <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Karo Syrup and Peanut Butter
> To: Pacific Crest Trail List <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Steve McAllister
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> That is one of my fav trail treats.? Quartered fresh apple with peanut butter smeared on the quarters.? Apples are long-lasting in the pack.? 
> ?
> The Incredible Bulk
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> From: Steve McAllister <brooklynkayak at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Karo Syrup and Peanut Butter
> To: "Pacific Crest Trail List" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 1:55 PM
> 
> 
> I never mix my peanut butter until I'm going to use it. It's more flexible
> that way.
> My wife and I can go through 12oz on a three day hike.
> About the most compact form of fuel you can carry. Resonably balanced
> nutrition.
> Especially good when you need to save space in a bar vault.
> 
> How to eat it:
> 1) A spoonful alone as a snack.
> 2) Spread on top of your Snickers or other food bar.
> 3) On crackers, pita or tortilla with dried fruit and/or whole nuts and/or
> seeds
> 4) Mixed into your ramen or quick rice.
> 5) With oatmeal or grits
> 6)? Spread on fresh fruit or vegetables(when you can get em).
> 7) A peanut butter and dried salami sandwich.
> There's many more examples....
> 
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> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:45:02 -0800
> From: "Ground Pounder" <groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] FW: Snow Course for SoCal?
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> Sending again to make sure it goes through
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> From: Ground Pounder <groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net>
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Snow Course for SoCal?
> 
> 
> 
> "How's Your Trail?" Yes I would and I would need Sat/Sun/Mon and a little
> bit of a notice Thanks for thinking of us down here. And Remember "Be
> Prepared" Ground Pounder Bill "Semper Fi"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > There has been a request that Mountain Education teach a free, 3-day Snow
> > Course in the mountains of Southern California, say in the Idyllwild area.
> >
> > Would anyone be interested?
> >
> >
> > Ned Tibbits, Director
> > Mountain Education
> > South Lake Tahoe, Ca.
> > P: 888-996-8333
> > F: 530-541-1456
> > C: 530-721-1551
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> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:09:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: Nitnoid1 <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] trail clothing
> To: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
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> And don't forget to visit your local Goodwill and thrift stores. 
> 
> The Incredible Bulk
> 
> On Feb 16, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> If
> you read those glossy outdoor magazines, you'd think you need a $300
> pack, a $300 shell and a $300 fleece. You do not need expensive gear to
> enjoy backpacking. Often the brand name gear, besides being expensive,
> is heavy, bulky and overkill for what is supposed to be for the simple
> joy of walking. 
> Though written for the Appalachian Trail, the general concepts apply for quality gear on the cheap:
> http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?p=206678#post206678
> 
> Some additional information I will add is that you should invest in a
> decent sleeping bag. The Campmor down bag is rated to 20F and is known
> as a good budget bag.
> http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___40065
> 
> 
> Need long underwear, hats, gloves, socks, etc? Check out Warm Stuff Distributing (aka The Underwear Guys) .
> Run, in part, by the well-know thru-hiker Fiddlehead, it features the
> basics for very reasonable prices. It is mainly surplus, seconds and
> irregulars. I find this type of clothing is not functionally different
> from the Patagucci clothing, is sometimes lighter and it is always less
> expensive!
> 
> If you are looking for a light, compressible and warm jacket check out an m-65 army liner jacket
> (mentioned in the above article, but deserves to be emphasized) 
> 
> If you don't mind a bit of sewing, you can make a Montbell Thermawrap
> clone for less than $20 with the above liner jacket. A men's large
> comes in at 12oz! Conidering a Montbell Thermawrap is $150 and weights
> 10oz, the cheap way is nice for those on a budget on who need something
> warm, light and cheap!
> 
> Check it out: http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=41034
> 
> For high altitude/desert hiking I suggest a long sleeve synthetic shirt for
> the princely sum of $4 from many thrift stores. (Old uniform shirts,
> acrylic shirts from Blair, rayon blends, heck,,.even the 65/35 blends
> are fine!) I've used this type of shirt for literally several thousand
> miles of backpacking.
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:21:35 -0800 (PST)
> From: patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiker Nutrition
> To: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>, pct-l at backcountry.net, Dan
> Africk <danstheman at gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <586197.90431.qm at web54409.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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> ha! I remember last year when I was all nervous and anxious and not so sure what to do, where to go, what to be afraid of (remember the snake talk boys? lol)...now I'm reading all the posts on here with everyone else's fear and anxieties....and it's kinda humorous....take some advice from the Suga....
> just go, be prepared, have fun, eat what ever ur heart desires for five whole months cuz u can!!!, hike ur own hike, meet lots of new friends that u'll have forever, BE NICE! especially to the angels!!!, breath fresh air and take in the views...it's an AMAZING journey of a lifetime that will NEVER be forgotten.?
> Don't be nervous it all works out, u won't know what really works for u until u actually get out there for a week or two....just have fun and enjoy it while u can!?
> Tomorrow may never come and if it does the moment may not be there waiting for u....
> 
> patti?Sugar Moma PCT 09!
> www.hikestrong2010.com?hiking again in 2010 for cancer!?
> 
> --- On Wed, 2/17/10, Dan Africk <danstheman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Dan Africk <danstheman at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiker Nutrition
> To: "CHUCK CHELIN" <steeleye at wildblue.net>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 10:15 AM
> 
> Thanks, I found the link to that info online ant it's good stuff:
> 
> http://www.thru-hiker.com/articles/pack_light_eat_right.php
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:52 AM, CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net> wrote:
> > Good morning, Dan,
> >
> >
> >
> > For good, solid information regarding hiker nutrition that?s based upon both
> > science and experience I again recommend, ?Pack Light, Eat Right? by Brenda
> > L. Braaten, Ph.D, R.D.
> >
> >
> >
> > You may be surprised at the recommended percentage of protein.
> >
> >
> >
> > Enjoy your planning,
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> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:51:04 -0800
> From: "Jim Keener ( J J )" <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Dehydrated v freezedried
> To: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Greetings,
> 
> Advantages and disadvantages of each?
> 
> Jim Keener ( J J )
> _________________
> 
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> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:26:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Dehydrated v freezedried
> To: "Jim Keener \( J J \)" <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Neat idea! I think I'm going to put this on my blog as well. :)
> 
> Freeze dried:
> Can be expensive, especially if buying in large quantities. 
> may disinegrate upon rehydration
> meats rehydrate better than dehydrated
> cannot do at home
> sometimes hard to find in stores
> sometimes limited choices (unless looking online etc)
> very little work required if buying whole meals
> 
> Dehydrated
> can do at home - dehydrator or oven
> can take advantage of clearance sales, freebies?or discarded fruit/vegetables (I often get veggies for free that the?farm stand cannot sell because they are beyond their prime - or home grown fruit) Free food!
> ingredients may not rehydrate well - especially corn, green beans
> possibilities are endless - dried artichokes, kiwi chips anyone?
> can dry dinner leftovers or restuaunt take out for trail meals
> a lot of choices available if you do not want to dry things yourself
> can make large batches of meals in a relatively small amount of time
> can make unusual ingredients (bamboo rice, quinoa, millet, split peas, lentils...) "instant" by pre-cooking then drying
> 
> I use a combination of freeze dried ingredients (beef, corn, green beans, peas) and home dried (chicken, rice, vegetables, fruits) as well as some store bought items (potato slices, sun dried tomatoes, coconut creme powder, peanut sauce powder...). 
> 
> It all just depends on how much effort, time and money you want to put into what you are making.
> 
> I'm looking forward to?reading what others have to say on the subject. :)
> 
> ~Dicentra
> ?
> http://www.onepanwonders.com?~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
> http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
> 
> ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Jim Keener ( J J ) <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
> To: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 11:51:04 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] Dehydrated v freezedried
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Advantages and disadvantages of each?
> 
> Jim Keener ( J J )
> _________________
> 
> jj at ridgetrailhiker.com
> 
> http://trailjournals.com/jj2010/
> http://ridgetrailhiker.com
> http://olderhealthier.com
> 
> 
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