[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 1

Tue Feb 2 21:26:19 CST 2010

Message #3 is from last year.  I have no idea how it ended up on this year's
posting.

Sue

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Water Cooled Cat Can Stove (Jim Bravo)
   2. Re: myEarthLink News Article - Sticky,	smelly Bag   Balm:
      Problem-salving for all (tom aterno)
   3. Need hiking partner July 31-Aug 8 (Susan Pease)
   4. PCT Song - Out There on the PCT (Nathan Miller)
   5. Re: Water Cooled Cat Can Stove (Paul Bodnar)
   6. Permit donation (Mark England)
   7. Re: Lazy Responders (Gary Schenk)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:01:50 -0800
From: "Jim Bravo" <jimbravo at wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water Cooled Cat Can Stove
To: "Paul Bodnar" <paulbodnar at hotmail.com>,	"Kathryn Zimmerman"
	<thebaglady07 at gmail.com>
Cc: "pct-L backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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I was building an Esbit/alcohol cat food can stove this morning when I saw 
this design. I put it together and ran it a few times using Heet, and 
without any water around the can. The surface area of the tea candle can is 
so small that it doesn't get very hot - it does not come close to boiling 
water. But, what a great idea for someone who wants to simmer something. You

know, someone who knows how to cook. Just carry a tea candle can and insert 
it into the base of your other stove (if it fits) for simmering mode. Almost

no additional weight. Note that to hold the small can in place I inserted a 
flat piece of aluminum shaped like a large washer. The small can sat in the 
hole.

Jim 

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:02:10 -0800 (PST)
From: tom aterno <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] myEarthLink News Article - Sticky,	smelly Bag
	Balm: Problem-salving for all
To: twolegs at roadrunner.com, Gary Wright <at2002 at mac.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
Message-ID: <882963.66811.qm at web33506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Sportslick has antibacterial properties in addition to being a lubricant. I
do not believe Glide is antibacterial.

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Gary Wright <at2002 at mac.com> wrote:

From: Gary Wright <at2002 at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] myEarthLink News Article - Sticky, smelly Bag   Balm:
Problem-salving for all
To: twolegs at roadrunner.com
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, "Tortoise" <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 4:26 PM

On Jan 31, 2010, at 7:24 PM, twolegs at roadrunner.com wrote:

> I would like to recommend Sportslick? (sportslick.com).? It is
specifically formulated for athletes, has all the features of Bag Balm and
more.? Comes in a 4 oz tube, a 1 oz tube, and a small solid stick (like
deodorant).? Suggest you check it out.

Sounds like 'Body Glide' which is what I generally recommend for
chaffing and blister protection.? Has anybody tried both?

Radar
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:16:09 -0700
From: "Susan Pease" <spease at san.rr.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Need hiking partner July 31-Aug 8
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <000701caa2f4$bed301e0$0201a8c0 at SUE>
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Hiking in from Cottonwood Pass to Bishop Pass and out to South Lake.  Need
hiking partners for any part of hike.  Spectacular part of Sierras.  You can
join me for 3-4 days, 5-6 days, or whole trip.

Sue Pease

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:48:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Nathan Miller <erccmacfitheal at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] PCT Song - Out There on the PCT
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <632616.88569.qm at web44807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

To the tune of "They Call the Thing Rodeo"

They're sittin' watchin' movies
Not doin' much at all
She can tell he's feelin' restless
Between their four walls
He hears a call from SoCal
She knows he's gonna bail
It ain't no woman, flesh and blood
It's that damn Pacific Trail

Well, it's dirt and mud, it's dust and blood
It's the hard and bumpy ground
It's low blood sugar, it's a glimpse of a cougar
He'll see when he turns around
It's stormy skies, it's biting flies
It's the wind blowin' through the trees
It's the sun and the rain and the joy and the pain
Out there on the PCT

His body's sore and achy
She wishes he were done
But he's not one for quittin'
Not until the race is run
And then it's "So long, girl, I'll see ya"
Then he's off the find his grail
That's waitin' for him out there
Somewhere along the trail

It's bears and snakes, it's cattle gates
It's an eagle takin' flight
It's a day gettin' hotter, it's a still lake water
Reflectin' a star's bright light
It's thunder showers, it's wildflowers
It's the shade of a lonely tree
It's the sun and the rain and the joy and the pain
Out there on the PCT

It'll drive a hiker crazy
It'll drive a man insane
He'll sell off everything he owns
Just to hike the trail again
And a realized dream and a blown out knee
Are things they'll never see
>From all those months that he's been trudgin'
Along the PCT

It's squirrels and deer, it's lightweight gear
It's the chilly mornin' air
When the days grow wetter, he'll race against the weather
'Cause he'll have no time to spare
It's holy socks, it's trees and rocks
As far as the eye can see
It's the sun and the rain and the joy and the pain
Out there on the PCT
Yeah, it's the sun and the rain and the joy and the pain
Out there on the PCT!

-Brought to you by Nate the Trail Zombie

No map shows everything.

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 01:53:43 -0500
From: Paul Bodnar <paulbodnar at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water Cooled Cat Can Stove
Cc: pct-L backcountry.net <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <BLU125-W29076D918352AA9DDD788BD3580 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

If you add water you can double the simmering time... it is like doubling
your fuel for free.

Check out the control experiment with stove ID 10 and ID 10a where water is
added to cool the tea (candle removed) can and water is left out (no
cooling).  The simmering time is double with water added.... 

http://hikethru.com/hiking-information/backyard-science/homemade-stoves

Paul

P.S. the cooling water went from about 17 degrees Celsius to about 50
degrees Celsius, so there is some heat transfer going on between the tea
lite stove and the water.

> 
> I was building an Esbit/alcohol cat food can stove this morning when I saw

> this design. I put it together and ran it a few times using Heet, and 
> without any water around the can. The surface area of the tea candle can
is 
> so small that it doesn't get very hot - it does not come close to boiling 
> water. But, what a great idea for someone who wants to simmer something.
You 
> know, someone who knows how to cook. Just carry a tea candle can and
insert 
> it into the base of your other stove (if it fits) for simmering mode.
Almost 
> no additional weight. Note that to hold the small can in place I inserted
a 
> flat piece of aluminum shaped like a large washer. The small can sat in
the 
> hole.
> 
> Jim 
> 

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:23:56 +0000
From: Mark England <ingylufc at hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: [pct-l] Permit donation
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <SNT122-W2531078686D98E62360F2097580 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi first of i would like to thank everyone for the advice on phones, we have
gone with a simple phone unlocked so we can use an american sim card but i
also got a garmin foretex 301 for gps purposes. Im sending our permit
request forms of today and im wondering if sending the donation in cash
would be ok? i just dont like the idea of my credit card details getting
lost in the post.

Thank you

Mark 		 	   		  
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:26:50 -0800
From: Gary Schenk <gwschenk at socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lazy Responders
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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On Saturday 30 January 2010 22:36:48 Tortoise wrote:

> I too like top-posting. I can read the new material without scrolling
> down and down to find the message without going thru all the quoted
> previous messages. I used Thunderbird email client which keeps my email
> organized by threads. I sometimes break the thread by deleting some of
> the early messages.

Top posting came about mostly because of Microsoft email clients. And as
some 
dude once said, the day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the
day 
they start making vacuum cleaners.

But as they say, Post Your Own Post.

Gary

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