[pct-l] JMT Bread, was: Re: The Truth....was McNuggets Don't Spoil?

[giniajim]

"Ordinary" bread in my experience runs from about 70-100 calories per ounce.  The whole wheat bread I'm eating now (Nature's Pride brand, one slice is 43 grams) has 110 calories, so about 72 calories per ounce.  I calculated the JMT bread at about 73 calories per ounce, but I'd sure like someone to check that; it seems low.  It is very dense; a small slice weighs about 2 ounces.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Yoshihiro Murakami 
  To: Paul Robison 
  Cc: giniajim ; pct-l at backcountry.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] JMT Bread, was: Re: The Truth....was McNuggets Don't Spoil?


  I usually bake JMT bread for a long time to dehydrate. It is a very
  hard bread.  I might be also wrong in calculation, because the
  calories of food are indicated in metric system( 100 gram). In my
  experience, this bread has several times higher calorie than the
  ordinary bread.



  2010/12/22 Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>:
  > the problem with that calculation is that it ignores how much of it is
  > actually inert water.
  >
  > even 71 Kcal an ounce ( ~1,200 per pound) is VERY high for most bread
  > products.
  >
  > i think guessing anything approaching 3,000 Kcal a pound is lofty. pure
  > liquid olive oil is only 3500 a pound
  >
  > ________________________________
  > From: Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker at gmail.com>
  > To: giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net>
  > Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
  > Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 7:16:51 PM
  > Subject: Re: [pct-l] JMT Bread, was: Re: The Truth....was McNuggets Don't
  > Spoil?
  >
  > Dear giniajim
  >
  > I do not know the total calories but it can be roughly estimated by
  > the total weight.
  >
  > carbohydrate 1814 Kcal /pound
  > oil 4082 Kcal /pound
  > walnut 3062 Kcal / pound
  > dried grape 1365 Kcal / pound
  >
  > The calories depend on the each proportion. Very roughly speaking, it
  > might be 2500-3000Kcal / pound.
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > 2010/12/7 Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker at gmail.com>:
  >> Thanks giniajim
  >>
  >> I forgot to write. If you eat the bread at home, it is better to bake
  >> the bread after the bread swells as much as possible. I eat about one
  >> slice (within 1 cm in thickness ) bread in every morning. I don't
  >> know how much calories the bread has. On the trail, I eat the bread
  >> twice as breakfast and lunch. I need about 3 Kg of bread in one a
  >> week. May be, next summer, I will carry huge JMT breads, because I
  >> will hike with my wife as a guide.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> 2010/12/7 giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net>:
  >>> I tried this. Turned out pretty good. I had to cook it about twice as
  >>> long to get it to cook through, and even then it was sort of 'soft' in the
  >>> middle.
  >>> Anyone calculate the calories? I got 71 cals per ounce. The recipe made
  >>> 98 ounces.
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