[pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011... (current list)

Matthias Kodym matthiaskodym at gmail.com
Mon Dec 6 12:56:56 CST 2010


Prizm and Goodness (mid may)
Neil P
Ramblin' Rose (aja) and Emily  (mid april)
flip flop (scott)
Outpost and Echo (April 17)
jim and Dona
Kevin C
Scott G  (mid to late april)
Mike Schaffer
Kevin ( start 4:20 )
Kylie skidmore??
Toby Maxwell (may 8-12)
Lisa Freathy
Ryan Hull (early ? mid april)
Gregory Wilson and his brother
Holly Eglleston ( April)
Karl Jorgenson, Jorgy
Hansel and Gretel (Nick and Emily)
Whitnee Goode
Sarah howard (ko)
Steven dvsteven (mid april)
Alexander asai (late april)
Colin and topsy Turvy (mid-late april)
Robert Henry
James B (blue moon ? march)
Matthias Kodym/Austria (mid/late April)

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>   1. Re: Lone Pine vs Independance resupply: (tom aterno)
>   2. rei sub kilo (jomike at cot.net)
>   3. Re: Lone Pine vs Independance resupply: (Jim & Jane Moody)
>   4.  Lone Pine vs Independance resupply: (Sean 'Miner' Nordeen)
>   5. Re: sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment) (Whitnee Goode)
>   6. Re: PCT 2011! and Peek (David Thibault)
>   7. Re: sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment) (Paul Robison)
>   8. Re: Lone Pine vs Independance resupply: (Jared Slucter)
>   9. Re: sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
>      (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
>  10. Five finger shoes or other things you want to try
>      (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
>  11. Christmas Gear for 2011 hikers? (Palomino)
>  12. My feet are killing me. (Barbara Karagosian)
>  13. Re: Thru hikers for 2011... (Colin Stryker)
>  14. Christmas Gear for 2011 hikers? (Palomino)
>  15. bilgy tarp tent (Nikii Murtaugh)
>  16. MontBell hugger Guidance... (John Abela)
>  17. Re: My feet are killing me. (Melanie Clarke)
>  18. One story of the decision to go hiking... (Jeffrey Olson)
>  19. Christmas Gear for 2011 hikers? (Palomino)
>  20. Re: Thru hikers for 2011... (current list) (Robert Henry)
>  21. Re: sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
>      (herbstroh at charter.net)
>  22. Thru hikers for 2011 (Sarah Howard)
>  23. Re: Thru hikers for 2011... (Alexander Asai)
>  24. Re: Thru hikers for 2011... (current list) (James B.)
>  25. Re: Thru hikers for 2011... (current list) (James B.)
>  26.  Thru hikers for 2011... (current list) (Paul Robison)
>  27. Conditions on San Antonio (Jim Keener ( J J ))
>  28. Correction: Conditions on SAN JACINTO (Jim Keener ( J J ))
>  29. sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment) (hammock
>      comment) (enyapjr at comcast.net)
>  30. Re: Lone Pine vs Independance resupply: (gwschenk at socal.rr.com)
>  31. Re: sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
>      (gwschenk at socal.rr.com)
>  32. Re: Conditions on San Antonio (Ron Dye)
>  33. Re: Thru hikers for 2011... (Jonathan Derecourt)
>  34. Hammock Sleeping (CHUCK CHELIN)
>  35. Re: Thru hikers for 2011... (Ernie Castillo)
>  36. Re: Lone Pine vs Independance resupply: (Meaghan McCamman)
>  37. Food Dehydrator Tips or Recipes? (Lisa Freathy)
>  38. Re: Food Dehydrator Tips or Recipes? (Austin Williams)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 10:22:12 -0800 (PST)
> From: tom aterno <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lone Pine vs Independance resupply:
> To: Ron Dye <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <629093.46119.qm at web33506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Independence has two gas stations with mini-marts.  Not much selection in
> either.  The grocery store closed a few years ago, but was recently
> purchased.
>  I hope it reopens, as it would create a nice alternative to hitching to
> Lone
> Pine, but to date, there are no plans to reopen at this time.
> There are four motels in Indy, and one hotel.  The best motel is Ray's Den.
>  There are two restaurants and a Subway. So, as Burning Daylight states, in
> summary, until some things change in Indy, it is a better idea to exit via
> KP
> and hitch to Lone Pine.
>
> One of the things that may change in a few years is that a trail angel may
> begin
> to reside in Indy, but that is a couple of years out.
>
>
> The Incredible Bulk
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ron Dye <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
> To: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Cc: Lynne Bunn <lbunn at lonepinetv.com>
> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 8:14:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lone Pine vs Independance resupply:
>
> I am the world's foremost (self-proclaimed) expert on this topic - just
> kidding.  I heartily recommend going to Lone Pine by exiting over Kersearge
> Pass.  I do not recommend exiting near Horseshoe Meadow because there is
> far
> less traffic in that area than there is at the Onion Valley (Kersearge
> Pass)
> trailhead.  If you exit from Horseshoe Meadows you will have only left
> Kennedy Meadows about three days prior.  By going out KP you will have been
> over Forester Pass (and Mount Whitney if you elect to do so).  That will
> give you a real taste of what the remainder of the Sierra can be like.  KP
> is a pleasant hike both ways with lots of vehicular traffic to the
> campground at the trailhead.
>
> Now, when you exit from KP you will be in Independence where there is not
> much of anything.  Reports I have heard on lodging are that it is adequate.
> However, if you take a southbound hitch about 10-15 miles - and Highway 395
> is a well-travelled road - you find yourself in Lone Pine.  In Lone Pine,
> the best breakfast and lunch are at the Alabama Hills Caf? - they feed
> hiker
> portions to everyone all year around.  There is a Pizza Factory although I
> find his prices ridiculously high.  The Carousel Restaurant offers
> excellent
> asian cuisine and Seasons Restaurant is always good if you're looking for
> an
> upscale dining experience.  For lodging, I recommend the Dow Villa Hotel.
> This rustic building built around 1923 has a tremendous history and exudes
> character.  While old, the building is immaculate, everything works and the
> staff is very hiker-friendly.  You can also stay at the Hostel for about
> $25
> a day, but the Dow provides you with more privacy, security, and a pool and
> HOT TUB!!!   If you take a zero day, be sure to visit the Lone Pine Film
> Museum at the south end of town.
>
> Elevations is an equipment store that has quality hiking gear, reasonable
> prices and on occasion, the owner has been known to give a 5% discount to
> PCT hikers!  This is an excellent place to replace anything that needs it
> without having to take a serious side-trip to Bishop which is 60 miles
> north.
>
> Most importantly, Joseph's Bi-Rite Market has been in business over 100
> years and has anything you need for re-supply.  Gardner's True-Value
> hardware across the highway has denatured alcohol and other items you might
> need.
>
> Enjoy your stay.  I always do.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Paul Robison
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 9:01 AM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Lone Pine vs Independance resupply:
>
> from those who have been to these places,
>
> which is an easier hitch?  lone pine seems too close to KM to really bother
> with, but with al lthe extra sierra's gear i might want more stops  (less
> food
> to save weight)
>
> any thoughts?
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 10:30:32 -0800
> From: <jomike at cot.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] rei sub kilo
> To: <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
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> I went on line, rei.com, to see and read about the sub kilo and saw  hat
> they are on a very good sale. Good time to buy one...huge savings.
>
> are we there yet
>
>
> ...going to the mountains is going home.
>
> John Muir
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 19:36:31 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lone Pine vs Independance resupply:
> To: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
> Paul,
>
> Much of what has already been said I agree with and will not repeat.?
> However, here are a few different items.
>
>
>
> If 2011 is like 2010, or if you leave KM early, you might want to go out
> both at Horseshoe Meadows and Kearsarge Pass.? We did both, because we were
> very early and not in a rush, plus we could carry less weight from KM to
> Horseshoe instead of KM to Kearsarge.? There was a lot of snow in 2010, so
> the going was slow and exhausting.? Two different trips to Lone Pine were
> great for rest and resupply.
>
>
>
> The prices at the Pizza Factory were reasonable, I thought.? The owner said
> he was a former thru-hiker, Trail Name Buffalo.
>
>
>
> There is a public transit bus that runs between Independence and Lone
> Pine.? Doug's hiker hostel and other places have the schedule.? Pretty cheap
> and you don't have to hitch in the sun.
>
>
>
> Besides the outfitter and grocery mentioned, LP has a good boot repair
> place.? It's a western boot store down from Joseph's grocery.
>
>
>
> We ran into a trail angel / occasional hiker who was running shuttles to /
> from Horseshoe Meadows, Lone Pine, Independence, and Onion Valley Trail
> head.? He was unemployed so he was charging for the trip, but considering
> the distance and remoteness, it seemed a bargain.? I have lost his name and
> number, but someone on the list might still have it.? Check with Doug at the
> hostel in LP - he probably keeps a list of shuttlers.
>
>
>
> I agree strongly with the LP-instead-of-Indep. recommendation.? More
> restaurant choices, more motels, a genuine hiker hostel, better?grocery,
> outfitter, pharmacy,?cobbler, etc.? Plus Alabama Hills for breakfast is
> worth the?trip, even if you're not hiking.
>
>
>
> Have?a great hike,
>
> Mango
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Robison" <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2010 10:01:29 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] Lone Pine vs Independance resupply:
>
> from those who have been to these places,
>
> which is an easier hitch? ?lone pine seems too close to KM to really bother
> with, but with al lthe extra sierra's gear i might want more stops ?(less
> food
> to save weight)
>
> any thoughts?
>
>
> ?? ? ?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 12:15:05 -0800
> From: "Sean 'Miner' Nordeen" <sean at lifesadventures.net>
> Subject: [pct-l]  Lone Pine vs Independance resupply:
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I thought hitching to/from On Onion Valley TH (below Keasarge Pass) was
> easy.  Most traffic going down to Independence is in the afternoon while the
> traffic going up is mostly in the morning (hikers and fishermen).  I arrived
> at the Onion Valley TH around 10:30am and had to wait about an hour until a
> day hiker heading back gave me a lift down to the PO.  Hitching back up 2
> days latter, I stood infront of the Musuem up the street and started waiting
> at 9:45am.  I should have started earlier in the day to catch some of the
> fishermen but I needed to mail something out of the PO  when it opened at
> 9:30am.  Even so, I got a ride in about 30minutes from a backcountry Ranger
> heading back up.
>
> If you are going to just resupply and not zero, I say just stay in
> Independence.  The mniimarts have enough to resupply from if you aren't very
> picky or just send a supply box to the Post Office (from Tehachappi/Mojave)
> which is located right at the bottom of the road down from Onion Valley TH.
>  Though the resturants are limited, you can eat your fill.  The Courthouse
> Motel fed us breakfast and since I had a frig and microwave, I bought
> non-trail food to eat from the MiniMart and supplemented my meals by eating
> in my room.  Hitching to Lone Pine seemed like too much hassle (especially
> the idea of having to hitch back early enough to catch the morning traffic
> up to the TH) so I chose to stay in Independence.  Now since I had lost some
> gear that needed to be replaced, I did take a zero in Independence and took
> the morning CREST bus to Bishop to the Outfitter there and had lunch at
> Sizzler's AYCE and came back on the afternoon bus.  The large supermarket
> where the bus picks you
>  up in Bishop is larger then most you'll see on the trail.  So if hitching
> to Lone Pine is tempting, you may want to consider going to Bishop instead.
>
> -Miner
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Check my 2009 PCT Journal out at
> http://www.pct2009.lifesadventures.net/Journal.php
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 12:34:58 -0800 (PST)
> From: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> The only reason I'm hesitating with the tarptent is that it seems?it would
> be a pain in the ass to set up. I'm going solo, so I want something simple.
> They're simple enough, I suppose, but there's so many options and I can't
> make up my mind, haha! What about a hammock? Those look really nice, but are
> there always places to set them up? The Wild Oasis is floorless, which is
> great in the snow, but I'm a bit weary about ticks and other bloodsuckers. I
> could get over that, I bet :-) The weight savings just might be worth it...
> But?I also don't know how I could do that in the rain, especially with a
> down sleeping bag like the sub kilo. I'm leaning toward the sublite
> tarptent. I'm not sure which one-- sil or original. I eventually need to
> make a desicion :-) eenie meenie minee mo...
> ?
> Whitnee
>
> --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
> To: "Lisa Freathy" <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>, "Whitnee Goode" <
> whitneegoode at yahoo.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 6:03 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> about tarptents...
> i've moved to one,? in 2010 i hiked using the marmot Aeolos 2P... rock
> solid ... and TWICE we had the only standing tent in the morning (out of 4
> and 5 tents)... but you're talking in the 6 lb range.
>
> the tarptent style takes a little more care in how you face the wind,? and
> maybe a few more rocks around you tent stakes to keep them in,? but the
> weight savings are so very worth it (to me)
> i've been useing the Nemo Meta 2P? used it 14 nights now... for the weight
> it is a big improvement over a 4 poled tent like a Marmot.?? it has bug
> netting etc. so as to provide some mosquito protection.? is it as strong??
> of course not...? might i be miserable one night out of 130 nights?? sure.?
> but its worth it for the weight.
>
> the biggets downside is some condensation,?? So i take a 5 inch square of
> ShamWOW with me and qipe off the tent walls come morning ... (roll this up
> and put it in the center of your pack for an ice cold 2PM spongebath in the
> heat of the day!)...
>
> as for staking... i do this on rocky surfaces...? open my trekking pole,?
> or run the trucking pole somewhow through the guy rope (or nylon loops;
> whichever you have) and then lay that down o nthe ground and put some big
> old rocks on it.? this is stronger than just putting a stake in the ground;?
> though it is a lot more trouble it's worth it on a stormy night.
>
> ~Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
> To: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 12:10:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
>
> I have the?women's long?even though?I am only?5'5". I like to be able to
> move
> around and slide down into the bag and I felt that the long was less
> constrictive.?I rarely have problems w/my feet being cold even though I
> have the
> extra length. I typically don't sleep with socks and have?only needed to
> twice,
> once in approx. 20* weather at 9800' and once during a cold?March night
> with?crazy wind.?
>
> I was just gifted a?FlyCreek UL1 tent but have yet to receive.?I am excited
> to
> check it out, and at 2lbs it is not too bad for a freestanding tent. I have
> never used a tarp?tent and had?not ever seen one until the KO last year.
> They
> look very roomy and?I?like the ones with the bug netting?but I have no
> experience on how easy they are to set up and how they perform in super
> winds,
> rain, hail, etc. Also, what are the options for set up if you are on a rock
> surface and can't stake??I can see the up side to ta tarptent?for sure,
> especially at their weight and pack size, but what, if any are the down
> sides?
> I'll probably start with a tent since that is what I am comfortable with,
> but I
> am always open to change and will be interested to see so many of these on
> the
> trail as they seem popular!
>
> Happy Hiking!Lisa
>
>
> "Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and
> climb
> a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
> ~ John Muir
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 12:08:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
>
> I'm going to try to rip the stuff sack before I go then (not really try,
> but be
> hard on it) so I don't get stuck on the pct without one. I'm glad you love
> yours!?That makes me excited :-) How's the size? It seems like a lot of
> people
> say it's too small or only for really skinny people. How skinny does one
> need to
> be in order to fit comfortably??What kind of shelter do you have? I'm
> thinking
> about getting either the Wild Oasis from Six Moons Designs or the the
> Sublite
> tarptent...
> ?
> Whitnee
>
> --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
> To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 12:52 AM
>
>
> I LOVE mine!!!??
>
>
> The compress sack that came w/ripped at the straps after a couple of trips,
> but
> they let me take my pick off the shelf for a replacement one. I tore out
> the
> draw cord last year and ripped a section, (I was using as a blanket while
> lakeside and accidentally stepped on the bag while trying to pull the hood
> closed while walking back to the tent, not the best protection?plan). I
> thought
> they were no longer available at REI so I easily sewed the rip and
> re-strung the
>
> cord rather than return and it seems to be holding up fine where I did the
> repair.
>
> My friend borrows my hubby's sub kilo whenever she goes with me and is
> buying
> one for herself this week. Great price right now!?
> ?Lisa
>
>
> "Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and
> climb
>
> a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
> ~ John Muir
>
>
> From: Whitnee Goode whitneegoode at yahoo.com
>
> Just bought one!! AHHH! I hope I made a good choice... can't beat REI's
> return
> policy though :-)
>
>
> ? ? ?
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 13:34:59 -0700
> From: David Thibault <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT 2011! and Peek
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> I used a peek in 2009 and it worked great for journaling.  I would
> recommend
> it.  I used it to journal to postholer and never had a problem.
>
> I carried an extra battery but I probably would not again as I only used it
> once.
>
> I turned it on just to type or send my journal.  I kept it in airplane mode
> while writing and then just turned on the transmitter to send and receive.
> I also used it as a reading device getting a book from dailylit.com.
>
> Just make sure you get a new one as the older models no longer work (i.e.
> be
> careful if buying a used one).
> Check their web site for details.
>
> Enjoy the PCT - it is a great trail and a thru is a great adventure.
>
> Day-Late
>
>
>
> > I am trying to figure out the best way to keep an online trail journal
> > updated, and was curious about the current generation of Peek devices.
> >  Does
> > anyone have experience with them?  Have they been sufficient?  I don't
> own
> > a
> > smartphone, and don't particularly want to purchase one, so a Peek seems
> > like it might be a decent compromise.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 13:02:50 -0800 (PST)
> From: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
> To: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <71356.70435.qm at web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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> there are a lot of places in the beginning where you simply can't set up a
> hammock.  impossible.
>
> have you checked out the nemo meta 1P?
> http://www.nemoequipment.com/nemo2010-meta1p-tent  suuuper simple setup,
>  just
> stake it down, and then lift your trekking pole up into it like opening an
> umbrella. i'm unsure how sturdy it is, i have my meta 2P out in the
> snowstorm
> right now just to test it  (we're getting 8 inches tonight).  the 2P is
> larger
> and uses 2 trekking poles not one.  it is plenty strong thusfar.
>
> the people on he trail i saw with the Henry shires tents of any kind were
> all
> thrilled with them.  ...some tents are finnicky in their setup, but i dont
> think
> you can really make a 'wrong' decision,  you'll be living out of this
> thing.
> two weeks in, the setup will be second nature regardless of which you
> choose
> IMHO,
>
> ~Paul
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 3:34:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
>
> The only reason I'm hesitating with the tarptent is that it seems it would
> be a
> pain in the ass to set up. I'm going solo, so I want something simple.
> They're
> simple enough, I suppose, but there's so many options and I can't make up
> my
> mind, haha! What about a hammock? Those look really nice, but are there
> always
> places to set them up? The Wild Oasis is floorless, which is great in the
> snow,
> but I'm a bit weary about ticks and other bloodsuckers. I could get over
> that, I
> bet :-) The weight savings just might be worth it... But I also don't know
> how I
> could do that in the rain, especially with a down sleeping bag like the sub
> kilo. I'm leaning toward the sublite tarptent. I'm not sure which one-- sil
> or
> original. I eventually need to make a desicion :-) eenie meenie minee mo...
>
> Whitnee
>
> --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
> To: "Lisa Freathy" <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>, "Whitnee Goode"
> <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 6:03 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> about tarptents...
> i've moved to one,  in 2010 i hiked using the marmot Aeolos 2P... rock
> solid ...
> and TWICE we had the only standing tent in the morning (out of 4 and 5
> tents)...
> but you're talking in the 6 lb range.
>
> the tarptent style takes a little more care in how you face the wind,  and
> maybe
> a few more rocks around you tent stakes to keep them in,  but the weight
> savings
> are so very worth it (to me)
> i've been useing the Nemo Meta 2P  used it 14 nights now... for the weight
> it is
> a big improvement over a 4 poled tent like a Marmot.   it has bug netting
> etc.
> so as to provide some mosquito protection.  is it as strong?  of course
> not...
> might i be miserable one night out of 130 nights?  sure.  but its worth it
> for
> the weight.
>
> the biggets downside is some condensation,   So i take a 5 inch square of
> ShamWOW with me and qipe off the tent walls come morning ... (roll this up
> and
> put it in the center of your pack for an ice cold 2PM spongebath in the
> heat of
> the day!)...
>
> as for staking... i do this on rocky surfaces...  open my trekking pole,
>  or run
> the trucking pole somewhow through the guy rope (or nylon loops; whichever
> you
> have) and then lay that down o nthe ground and put some big old rocks on
> it.
> this is stronger than just putting a stake in the ground;  though it is a
> lot
> more trouble it's worth it on a stormy night.
>
> ~Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
> To: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 12:10:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
>
> I have the women's long even though I am only 5'5". I like to be able to
> move
> around and slide down into the bag and I felt that the long was less
> constrictive. I rarely have problems w/my feet being cold even though I
> have the
>
> extra length. I typically don't sleep with socks and have only needed to
> twice,
> once in approx. 20* weather at 9800' and once during a cold March night
> with crazy wind.
>
> I was just gifted a FlyCreek UL1 tent but have yet to receive. I am excited
> to
> check it out, and at 2lbs it is not too bad for a freestanding tent. I have
> never used a tarp tent and had not ever seen one until the KO last year.
> They
> look very roomy and I like the ones with the bug netting but I have no
> experience on how easy they are to set up and how they perform in super
> winds,
> rain, hail, etc. Also, what are the options for set up if you are on a rock
> surface and can't stake? I can see the up side to ta tarptent for sure,
> especially at their weight and pack size, but what, if any are the down
> sides?
> I'll probably start with a tent since that is what I am comfortable with,
> but I
> am always open to change and will be interested to see so many of these on
> the
> trail as they seem popular!
>
> Happy Hiking!Lisa
>
>
> "Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and
> climb
>
> a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
> ~ John Muir
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 12:08:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
>
> I'm going to try to rip the stuff sack before I go then (not really try,
> but be
> hard on it) so I don't get stuck on the pct without one. I'm glad you love
> yours! That makes me excited :-) How's the size? It seems like a lot of
> people
> say it's too small or only for really skinny people. How skinny does one
> need to
>
> be in order to fit comfortably? What kind of shelter do you have? I'm
> thinking
> about getting either the Wild Oasis from Six Moons Designs or the the
> Sublite
> tarptent...
>
> Whitnee
>
> --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
> To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 12:52 AM
>
>
> I LOVE mine!!!
>
>
> The compress sack that came w/ripped at the straps after a couple of trips,
> but
> they let me take my pick off the shelf for a replacement one. I tore out
> the
> draw cord last year and ripped a section, (I was using as a blanket while
> lakeside and accidentally stepped on the bag while trying to pull the hood
> closed while walking back to the tent, not the best protection plan). I
> thought
> they were no longer available at REI so I easily sewed the rip and
> re-strung the
>
>
> cord rather than return and it seems to be holding up fine where I did the
> repair.
>
> My friend borrows my hubby's sub kilo whenever she goes with me and is
> buying
> one for herself this week. Great price right now!
>  Lisa
>
>
> "Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and
> climb
>
>
> a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
> ~ John Muir
>
>
> From: Whitnee Goode whitneegoode at yahoo.com
>
> Just bought one!! AHHH! I hope I made a good choice... can't beat REI's
> return
> policy though :-)
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 13:23:34 -0800
> From: Jared Slucter <jared.slucter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lone Pine vs Independance resupply:
> To: "Jim & Jane Moody" <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Since nobody has said anything about it yet, I must make a case for
> skipping
> both Trail Pass and Kearsarge Pass. I hiked from Kennedy Meadows to VVR
> (including the trip up Mt. Whitney) without resupply in the allegedly high
> snow year last summer. I am not a fast hiker, nor a light eater, and at
> first the food was really heavy. But I would do exactly the same thing
> again. The chance to be out, without crossing a road or anything, for 12
> days was wonderful. I will admit that the reason I did it was because I was
> meeting a friend in Mammoth who had flown in from the east coast and I had
> to hurry to meet him on time. So in addition to being logistically simpler,
> skipping the resupply is certainly faster, in case that is a concern. I
> even
> hiked with a couple who went straight from KM to Mammoth. When we got to
> the
> turnoff for VVR, they decided they had enough food to just push on. You
> will
> know what is right for you as you get closer to Kennedy Meadows, given your
> appetite, attitude and any scheduling concerns you may have.
>
> -Sneezes
>
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net
> >wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > Much of what has already been said I agree with and will not repeat.
> > However, here are a few different items.
> >
> >
> >
> > If 2011 is like 2010, or if you leave KM early, you might want to go out
> > both at Horseshoe Meadows and Kearsarge Pass.  We did both, because we
> were
> > very early and not in a rush, plus we could carry less weight from KM to
> > Horseshoe instead of KM to Kearsarge.  There was a lot of snow in 2010,
> so
> > the going was slow and exhausting.  Two different trips to Lone Pine were
> > great for rest and resupply.
> >
> >
> >
> > The prices at the Pizza Factory were reasonable, I thought.  The owner
> said
> > he was a former thru-hiker, Trail Name Buffalo.
> >
> >
> >
> > There is a public transit bus that runs between Independence and Lone
> > Pine.  Doug's hiker hostel and other places have the schedule.  Pretty
> cheap
> > and you don't have to hitch in the sun.
> >
> >
> >
> > Besides the outfitter and grocery mentioned, LP has a good boot repair
> > place.  It's a western boot store down from Joseph's grocery.
> >
> >
> >
> > We ran into a trail angel / occasional hiker who was running shuttles to
> /
> > from Horseshoe Meadows, Lone Pine, Independence, and Onion Valley Trail
> > head.  He was unemployed so he was charging for the trip, but considering
> > the distance and remoteness, it seemed a bargain.  I have lost his name
> and
> > number, but someone on the list might still have it.  Check with Doug at
> the
> > hostel in LP - he probably keeps a list of shuttlers.
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree strongly with the LP-instead-of-Indep. recommendation.  More
> > restaurant choices, more motels, a genuine hiker hostel, better grocery,
> > outfitter, pharmacy, cobbler, etc.  Plus Alabama Hills for breakfast is
> > worth the trip, even if you're not hiking.
> >
> >
> >
> > Have a great hike,
> >
> > Mango
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Robison" <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2010 10:01:29 AM
> > Subject: [pct-l] Lone Pine vs Independance resupply:
> >
> > from those who have been to these places,
> >
> > which is an easier hitch?  lone pine seems too close to KM to really
> bother
> > with, but with al lthe extra sierra's gear i might want more stops  (less
> > food
> > to save weight)
> >
> > any thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 15:57:36 -0800
> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Regarding stuff sacks and staked tents...
>
> I used a Gossamer Gear One tent. I never once was unable to find a
> place to stake it out and I set it up almost every single night over
> 3000 miles of hiking the PCT. If the ground was soft and/or wind was
> blowing I used large rocks over the stakes to keep it up. Had only a
> few problems with that, nothing serious.
>
> To deal with my sleeping bag, I would put it inside my pocket shower
> (which is like a stuff sack) only if I though it might rain or I
> might fall in a creek. I now don't bother with the pocket shower and
> instead just stuff it in the same trash compactor bag where I keep my
> extra socks, hat, gloves etc. The compactor bags are very durable,
> and I can attest that they are more than up to the job of keeping
> your gear dry. I had to swim across some swollen rivers with my pack
> on. Even though all I did was twist the top of the compactor bag and
> shove it in, and even though the compactor bag had a couple of holes,
> and even though my pack was fully under water as I swam, my sleeping
> bag was still dry.
>
> I also used a $.25 cent black garbage bag I bought at White Pass for
> a pack cover when it was raining. It did the job admirably. They make
> those things so you can toss broken glass bottles in them so they are
> more than up to the task of keeping your pack dry while hiking
> through the overgrown Washington trails.
>
>
> On Dec 5, 2010, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>
> > sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 16:17:14 -0800
> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Five finger shoes or other things you want to try
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Once in a while people ask if anyone has hiked the trail with Vibram
> five finger shoes. Actually, a woman named Crow did last summer, at
> least part of the way. You might try contacting here from her web
> site http://asthecrowflies.org and get her opinion. She may not
> respond for a few months, though. I do know from following her
> journal that she enjoyed them at first but after a while she was
> longing for more cushioning and she picked up her regular hiking
> shoes eventually.
>
> One of the benefits of carrying a light pack is you can carry more
> gear. That makes no sense, I'm sure, but what you can do is carry
> your regular hiking shoes AND your Vibrams and for a segment, try out
> the VFFs and see if they really are right for you. If after a day or
> three they aren't, you have your regular shoes with you. You can
> jetison the five fingers at the next trail town without having to
> endure five days of discomfort. Or if you are liking the VFFs,
> jetison the regular shoes. Send them up the trail a town or two or
> send them home.
>
> You can do this with lots of gear. It's not a hardship to carry extra
> gear if your pack is not maxed out with just the bare minimum. Carry
> two stoves. Carry a hammock and a tent. Whatever you want to test
> out, go ahead and test it on the trail. Since you have a backup you
> aren't going to die. The post office is your friend.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 17:53:42 -0800
> From: Palomino <palomino.pct at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Christmas Gear for 2011 hikers?
> To: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I have a new, never used, seam sealed Tarptent Moment for sale...$150 plus
> postage.
>
> Also, a new, never used, Gossamer Gear Mariposa Plus, size large with a
> medium hipbelt...$100 plus postage.
>
> Please contact me off list if interested.
>
> Jim Ostdick
> Palomino
> San Juan Bautista, CA
>
> palomino.pct at gmail dot com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 18:03:40 -0800
> From: Barbara Karagosian <barbara at mkpe.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] My feet are killing me.
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <F4076824-9A11-4A07-AD2C-B5C1C22C3519 at mkpe.com>
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> I had a Mortons neuroma in my left foot about 12 years ago. Did the wide
> shoes, inserts, but finally had surgery and wished I'd done it way sooner.
> About 3-4 weeks and then no pain at all. It was a miracle. Yes slight
> numbness in one toe; no impact on hiking or anything else.
> But they can recur.
> I have another one now, on the adjacent nerve. Due to an insurance change,
> and cost of surgery, I've tried the cortisone shots, which work great for
> 6-8 weeks, so I'd have one once a year before a big hike. Then I tried
>  alcohol shots (5) which are suppose to sclerose the nerve (kill it),
> therefore no pain. Painful shot, worked for a year or so. Now it's starting
> up again......
>
> Cheers, Barbara
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 18:37:10 -0800
> From: "Colin Stryker" <colin.stryker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011...
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <365439F3FD1F41FE9857F55A5CB29F57 at colindell>
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>
>
> You can count me (Colin, no trail name yet...) and girlfriend Topsy Turvy
> (trail name from AT '97) in for 2011 thru-hiking, beginning in mid- to late-
> April.  On the one hand, I'm a little scared at how little time there is
> left to prepare, on the other, I can't f'ing wait!
>
> Looking forward to meeting all our fellow thru-hikers at kickoff, and
> elsewhere on the trail!
>
> Colin
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 18:41:22 -0800
> From: Palomino <palomino.pct at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Christmas Gear for 2011 hikers?
> To: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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> The Tarptent Moment has been sold. You guys are like sharks!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 18:48:41 -0800
> From: Nikii Murtaugh <boundforadventure at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] bilgy tarp tent
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
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> I have a bilgy tarp tent that I made this summer for sale.  I used it for
> 10
> days in Oregon this summer and came to the realization that I'm a
> free-standing tent gal, not a tarp tent one.  Contact me off list if
> interested.
>
> Lost and Found
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 18:58:35 -0800
> From: John Abela <pacificcresttrail2011 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] MontBell hugger Guidance...
> To: PCT L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Hey All,
>
> Need some feedback...
>
> I am really stuck on whether I should go with:
>
> MontBell Super Spiral Down Hugger #1
>
> or
>
> MontBell Super Spiral Down Hugger #3
>
>
> I typically wear Ibex Woolies crew top and bottom while sleeping with a
> dedicated pair of Darn Tough socks.
>
> I do have a GoLite UltraLite 3-Season Quilt but have been unhappy with it's
> performance in the 25-30 range.
>
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 19:01:21 -0800
> From: Melanie Clarke <melaniekclarke at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] My feet are killing me.
> To: Barbara Karagosian <barbara at mkpe.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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> Dear Barbara,
>
> Seriously, learning how to stand and walk correctly will eliminate the need
> for surgery, drugs and enable you to enjoy the activities you like to
> pursue.  I don't have a lot of time this evening to elaborate like I did in
> an earlier post.  One hiker asked me to recommend a book and that is not
> such a bad idea as Americans are so sedentary now a days that we don't even
> know how to physically perform any more.  We lack role models and when we
> do
> try to do something physical we all get back, knee and foot problems.  The
> body has to position itself properly for optimal performance.  Back before
> 1900's everyone had to walk long distances on a daily basis, and work hard
> plowing fields without mechanized equipment yet they had far fewer problems
> than we have today.  Egyptians built pyramids and had very few back, knee
> foot problems.  They positioned their bodies correctly when they worked,
> walked, lifted and carried heavy loads.  Their center of gravity was
> centered over the larger bones and muscle groups in their bodies.  They did
> not use their Metatarsals (bones near the balls of your feet) to dissipate
> the impact forces of the weight of their bodies.
>
> Sorry, I digress, the book, *8 Steps to a Pain Free Back* by Esther Gokhale
> is a good tutorial on how to stand, walk, perform properly.  I have
> absolutely no connection with this lady but it is a good book.  She has a
> center up here in Palo Alto (near Stanford) but I have never been there.  I
> am a Kinesiology Major so I don't need anyone holding my hand.  That being
> said, because I grew up in America, influenced by a fashion industry that
> sends messages that it is cool to slouch, I suffered problems from standing
> incorrectly also.  I am also tall so I slouched to fit in.  There weren't
> any Kines classes on standing correctly back when I was a university
> student
> (Ergonomics was in its infancy in the early 80's) so I had to figure it out
> by looking at my injuries and incorporating it with the knowledge I already
> had.  Other people, whose expertise lies in other areas may benefit from
> the
> visual tutorial of her clinic.
>
> Melanie
>
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Barbara Karagosian <barbara at mkpe.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I had a Mortons neuroma in my left foot about 12 years ago. Did the wide
> > shoes, inserts, but finally had surgery and wished I'd done it way
> sooner.
> > About 3-4 weeks and then no pain at all. It was a miracle. Yes slight
> > numbness in one toe; no impact on hiking or anything else.
> > But they can recur.
> > I have another one now, on the adjacent nerve. Due to an insurance
> change,
> > and cost of surgery, I've tried the cortisone shots, which work great for
> > 6-8 weeks, so I'd have one once a year before a big hike. Then I tried
> >  alcohol shots (5) which are suppose to sclerose the nerve (kill it),
> > therefore no pain. Painful shot, worked for a year or so. Now it's
> starting
> > up again......
> >
> > Cheers, Barbara
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> Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 20:15:33 -0700
> From: Jeffrey Olson <jolson at olc.edu>
> Subject: [pct-l] One story of the decision to go hiking...
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> This is one story about the decision to do a long hike.  Any others out
> there???
> _______________________________________________________
>
> My girlfriend and I had moved in together in November 1991 and rented
> house in Duvall, WA that within a year was to be torn down for a
> subdivision "in the forest."  She had four kids that lived with their
> dad.  She had her first kid at 20 and the twins at 24.  She was the
> oldest of four kids.  Her mom was 16 when she was born, and 21 when the
> fourth was born.  Jane never had a childhood or adolescence.  She took
> care of kids - that was her job.  She was 32 and I was 39.  I'd found
> out the previous week I had been admitted to the MSW program at the
> University of Washington.
>
> We were sitting in a Mexican restaurant in town on March 1, 199, waiting
> for dinner to appear.  I'm a philosopher at heart so questions of
> meaning and purpose and the future were always "UP!"  Janey made the
> comment we didn't have a "couple project."
>
> This concept was new to me.  I thought being a couple was a project.
> Apparently there is more involved.  Not only do you work on the
> relationship - constantly, but you have something you do together as a
> couple that involves experiencing something that is the two of yours,
> and no one else's.
>
> I'd thought I was doing good in the "being-in-a couple" part and had the
> rat in a well-lit room feeling - I can't escape!  Scurry, scurry scurry...
>
> I'd done a long hike on the Tahoe Yosemite Trail back in the 70s, and
> that had stuck in my history like a beacon without enough amperage.  I
> had always wanted more.
>
> I asked if she had a pen - she has a purse so she has the world at her
> fingertips - and I began figuring out the spring and summer on a
> napkin.  She asked what I was doing and I asked her to wait a minute.  I
> had to start grad school on the first of October.  If we started hiking
> on June 1 we could hike from Lassen to Whitney - 750 miles - in 75 days,
> enough time to get back to reality and rent an apartment in time for me
> to start school and her to find a job.  (Her school time would come later.)
>
> Our food arrived and she asked me questions about backpacking.  She'd
> never done it before.  She'd not done much day hiking.  She looked at
> the napkin and asked about details - what to do with our meager
> possessions, her dad who was dying of colon cancer, etc.  By the end of
> the meal we were both heady and excited and that much more in love.  We
> had a "couple project" - a hike from Lassen to Whitney.
>
> We spent the next three months preparing for the trip - a story in and
> of itself.  On June 7 we left Hat Creek heading south, her pack weighing
> 56 pounds, mine 72...
>
> Jeffrey Olson
> Martin, SD
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 19
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 19:24:21 -0800
> From: Palomino <palomino.pct at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Christmas Gear for 2011 hikers?
> To: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Both the Moment and the Mariposa Plus have been sold. Thanks!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 19:41:41 -0800
> From: Robert Henry <rrh.henry at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011... (current list)
> To: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I'm planning on (attempting) a thru hike, departing Campo sometime
> after tax day.  I probably will skip the kick-off and go slow the
> first 2 weeks.  I'm in my mid 50's.  I think I've convinced my wife to
> do support out of Horseshoe Meadows; possibly Kearsarge and possibly
> other places in Central CA, and most of the road crossings in WA.
>
> Robert Henry
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Wow what a list we're getting !
> >
> >
> > Prizm and Goodness (mid may)
> > Neil P
> > Ramblin' Rose (aja) and Emily ?(mid april)
> > flip flop (scott)
> > Outpost and Echo (April 17)
> > jim and doNa
> > Kevin C
> > Scott G ?(mid to late april)
> > Mike Schaffer
> > Kevin ( start 4:20 )
> > Kylie skidmore??
> > Toby Maxwell (may 8-12)
> > Lisa Freathy
> > Ryan Hull (early ? mid april)
> > Gregory Wilson and his brother
> > Holly Eglleston ( April)
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 21
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 23:10:32 -0500
> From: "herbstroh at charter.net" <herbstroh at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Whitnee--
>
> I have used a Wild Oasis for a couple years, most recently on the
> Wonderland Trail this fall. Admittedly, it may take a few step-ups to get
> the hang of it but once you have the procedure down it works well. It goes
> up easy even in the rain.
>
> I use either a piece of tveck or light weight bivy (both about 6 ounces) to
> keep me off the ground. The bivy would give you some creepy-crawly
> protection but I have not had a problem just using a groundsheet.
>
> Herb
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Whitnee Goode whitneegoode at yahoo.com
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 12:34:58 -0800 (PST)
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
>
>
> The only reason I'm hesitating with the tarptent is that it seems?it would
> be a pain in the ass to set up. I'm going solo, so I want something simple.
> They're simple enough, I suppose, but there's so many options and I can't
> make up my mind, haha! What about a hammock? Those look really nice, but
> are there always places to set them up? The Wild Oasis is floorless, which
> is great in the snow, but I'm a bit weary about ticks and other
> bloodsuckers. I could get over that, I bet :-) The weight savings just
> might be worth it... But?I also don't know how I could do that in the rain,
> especially with a down sleeping bag like the sub kilo. I'm leaning toward
> the sublite tarptent. I'm not sure which one-- sil or original. I
> eventually need to make a desicion :-) eenie meenie minee mo...
> ?
> Whitnee
>
> --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
> To: "Lisa Freathy" <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>, "Whitnee Goode"
> <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 6:03 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> about tarptents...
> i've moved to one,? in 2010 i hiked using the marmot Aeolos 2P... rock
> solid ... and TWICE we had the only standing tent in the morning (out of 4
> and 5 tents)... but you're talking in the 6 lb range.
>
> the tarptent style takes a little more care in how you face the wind,? and
> maybe a few more rocks around you tent stakes to keep them in,? but the
> weight savings are so very worth it (to me)
> i've been useing the Nemo Meta 2P? used it 14 nights now... for the weight
> it is a big improvement over a 4 poled tent like a Marmot.?? it has bug
> netting etc. so as to provide some mosquito protection.? is it as strong??
> of course not...? might i be miserable one night out of 130 nights?? sure.?
> but its worth it for the weight.
>
> the biggets downside is some condensation,?? So i take a 5 inch square of
> ShamWOW with me and qipe off the tent walls come morning ... (roll this up
> and put it in the center of your pack for an ice cold 2PM spongebath in the
> heat of the day!)...
>
> as for staking... i do this on rocky surfaces...? open my trekking pole,?
> or run the trucking pole somewhow through the guy rope (or nylon loops;
> whichever you have) and then lay that down o nthe ground and put some big
> old rocks on it.? this is stronger than just putting a stake in the
> ground;? though it is a lot more trouble it's worth it on a stormy night.
>
> ~Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
> To: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 12:10:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
>
> I have the?women's long?even though?I am only?5'5". I like to be able to
> move
> around and slide down into the bag and I felt that the long was less
> constrictive.?I rarely have problems w/my feet being cold even though I
> have the
> extra length. I typically don't sleep with socks and have?only needed to
> twice,
> once in approx. 20* weather at 9800' and once during a cold?March night
> with?crazy wind.?
>
> I was just gifted a?FlyCreek UL1 tent but have yet to receive.?I am excited
> to
> check it out, and at 2lbs it is not too bad for a freestanding tent. I have
> never used a tarp?tent and had?not ever seen one until the KO last year.
> They
> look very roomy and?I?like the ones with the bug netting?but I have no
> experience on how easy they are to set up and how they perform in super
> winds,
> rain, hail, etc. Also, what are the options for set up if you are on a rock
> surface and can't stake??I can see the up side to ta tarptent?for sure,
> especially at their weight and pack size, but what, if any are the down
> sides?
> I'll probably start with a tent since that is what I am comfortable with,
> but I
> am always open to change and will be interested to see so many of these on
> the
> trail as they seem popular!
>
> Happy Hiking!Lisa
>
>
> "Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and
> climb
> a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
> ~ John Muir
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 12:08:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
>
> I'm going to try to rip the stuff sack before I go then (not really try,
> but be
> hard on it) so I don't get stuck on the pct without one. I'm glad you love
> yours!?That makes me excited :-) How's the size? It seems like a lot of
> people
> say it's too small or only for really skinny people. How skinny does one
> need to
> be in order to fit comfortably??What kind of shelter do you have? I'm
> thinking
> about getting either the Wild Oasis from Six Moons Designs or the the
> Sublite
> tarptent...
> ?
> Whitnee
>
> --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
> To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 12:52 AM
>
>
> I LOVE mine!!!??
>
>
> The compress sack that came w/ripped at the straps after a couple of trips,
> but
> they let me take my pick off the shelf for a replacement one. I tore out
> the
> draw cord last year and ripped a section, (I was using as a blanket while
> lakeside and accidentally stepped on the bag while trying to pull the hood
> closed while walking back to the tent, not the best protection?plan). I
> thought
> they were no longer available at REI so I easily sewed the rip and
> re-strung the
>
> cord rather than return and it seems to be holding up fine where I did the
> repair.
>
> My friend borrows my hubby's sub kilo whenever she goes with me and is
> buying
> one for herself this week. Great price right now!?
> ?Lisa
>
>
> "Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and
> climb
>
> a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
> ~ John Muir
>
>
> From: Whitnee Goode whitneegoode at yahoo.com
>
> Just bought one!! AHHH! I hope I made a good choice... can't beat REI's
> return
> policy though :-)
>
>
> ? ? ?
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> Message: 22
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 13:39:30 -0500
> From: Sarah Howard <sjhoward76 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Thru-hiked the PCT in 2004 & will be out there again in 2011, starting with
> the masses at the KO. (To answer Paul's question, I thru-hiked the AT in
> 2001 and 2005)
>
> Question for the list: I currently have a very abused Henry Shires Squall
> tarptent that I really love, but am thinking about saving myself 14 oz and
> switching to the Sublite. My only qualm is the caveat in the product specs
> -
> "Fine for all night moderate rains but not recommended for long-duration
> intense rainstorms."
>
> After 35 consecutive days of precipitation in the Cascades in 2004, I'm
> wondering if anyone has any actual experience with this tent in prolonged
> wet conditions. Do you think it would hold up to a wet year in Washington?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Quijote (Sarah Howard)
>
>
>
> From: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011...
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 11:21 AM
>
>
> So so far we have
>
> Me and my wife ( Outpost and Echo)
>
> Jim and Donna
>
> Kevin Cook
>
> Scott Garner
>
>
> ... 6 out of supposedly 300 ; )? not bad for december...
>
> echo and i will be starting on April 17'th;? in 2010 season we start on
> april
> 14'th and i really think that's a great time.? are any of your guys
> AT'ers??
> we
> never thru hiked the AT but we did Pennsylvania and north carolina.
>
> ~Paul
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 14:36:36 -0800
> From: Alexander Asai <alexanderasai at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011...
> To: Holly Eggleston <verde at negentropy.net>
> Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I plan on thru hiking 2011, starting end of April.  Can't wait to meet
> everyone!
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Holly Eggleston <verde at negentropy.net
> >wrote:
>
> > +1 to the 2011 thru-hikers.  I'm planning to start sometime in early(ish)
> > April, with a detour for the kickoff.
> >
> > And Kevin, I'll also be celebrating my 40th on the trail, albeit in late
> > July.  <cheers!>
> >
> > > Do you guys have most of your gear already?
> > For the most part, although there's going to be a bit of tweaking going
> on
> > in the next couple of months. I'm feeling pretty good about my tent,
> > sleeping pad, stove, pack, food strategy and clothes, but still working
> on
> > shoes and sleeping bag.
> >
> > > Anybody bringing anything especially unique?
> > Not yet, although I'm sure I'll come up with something weird.
> >
> > > anyone one of your guys AT vets?
> > Not me!
> >
> > Holly
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:31 AM, James F. Miller <
> jamesfmiller at hotmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I use Superfeet green in all my shoes
> > >
> > > > From: pacificcresttrail2011 at gmail.com
> > > > Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 09:28:53 -0800
> > > > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > > > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011...
> > > >
> > > > I have been putting the 'Brooks Cascadia 5' to the test here in the
> > > middle
> > > > of the Redwoods this past year.
> > > >
> > > > So far, beyond amazing.
> > > >
> > > > I did have to replace the inserts with something a bit stronger - but
> > > that
> > > > is a result of a 10 year old knee injury and not the shoe itself
> (right
> > > foot
> > > > tilts inward)
> > > >
> > > > We have 100+ inches of rain a year so it's pretty much always wet
> here.
> > > > While the shoes does not try as fast as I might like, it does try
> > faster
> > > > than anything else I have tried. (well, except for my 5.11 Sleet 8"
> > Boots
> > > > lol)
> > > >
> > > > I have been using Darn Tough Socks (I've tried all heights) and thus
> > far
> > > > zero issues with blisters or any other foot problems.
> > > >
> > > > I am on-trail every other day regardless of weather. My longest day
> in
> > > them
> > > > so far has only been 12 miles (our longest trail anywhere around here
> > is
> > > 22
> > > > miles, so limited on that) and I never once thought "Dang, my feet
> > hurt".
> > > >
> > > > I have been using simblissity levagaiter (which I just noticed are
> > > already
> > > > out of stock, just a week after they re-opened lol) and I've not had
> > any
> > > > issue with stuff getting into the shoes.
> > > >
> > > > My only complaint with them, seems to be something that the previous
> > > model
> > > > of the Cascadia also had a problem with, and that is the shoe laces.
> > They
> > > > bloody things just don't want to stay tied if you just do a simple
> > > overhand
> > > > knot. I am almost tempted to replace them with 1.25 mm Z-line LOL I
> > > figure
> > > > if I am going to use something that always slips, it might as well be
> > > > lighter lol
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:12 AM, James F. Miller <
> > > jamesfmiller at hotmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm probably going to use Brooks Addictions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Its five pair for me and five for Dona
> > > > >
> > > > > My problem is size 16 which you don't just pop into town and buy.
> > > > >
> > > > > My other shoe of concideration is Keen Targhees, but I hear reports
> > of
> > > the
> > > > > soles falling off in like 200 miles. But they do come in 16.
> > > > >
> > > > > An REI boot guy whom I talking to about Keens and the soles..I was
> > > wearing
> > > > > some New Balance 1012's at the time...pointed at my feet and said
> I'd
> > > better
> > > > > off with what I had on my feet!
> > > > >
> > > > > The New Balances are kind of still in the running.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim and Dona
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 08:59:10 -0800
> > > > > > From: paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com
> > > > > > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Being from Canada, i heard about the PCT and said "i can go do
> > > that... i
> > > > > have a
> > > > > > good white gas stove, a -30 sleeping bag... and even a true
> > > > > mountaineering
> > > > > > tent! ...all i have to do is buy some new pants and 5 months
> worth
> > of
> > > > > payday
> > > > > > bars" ...oh how wrong i was... seems everything i own has been
> > > replaced
> > > > > now
> > > > > > at least once, and some twice.
> > > > > > my previous hike had been in the selkirks (in march) and i really
> > > thought
> > > > > i knew
> > > > > > what i was getting into. 'course i knew nothing about PCT-l or
> even
> > > > > Whiteblaze.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You must love your shoes to but ten pairs of them ! that's
> > commitment
> > > !
> > > > > what
> > > > > > are you wearing? i'm loving my merell intercept shoes. not sure
> if
> > > i'd
> > > > > commit
> > > > > > to the whole hike in them though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~Paul with one L
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: James F. Miller <jamesfmiller at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > To: Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com>; pct-l <
> pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 6:48:17 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are pretty close with gear. Basically we have replaced our
> > 'heavy'
> > > > > > stuff..which was most everything
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Going to order shoes next. We're going to see about a discount at
> > our
> > > > > local
> > > > > > specialty running shoe store...like its ten pairs for the two of
> > > > > us..ought to be
> > > > > > wortht something
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jim and Dona with 1N
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> Message: 24
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 21:02:44 -0800 (PST)
> From: "James B." <jims_iphone17 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011... (current list)
> Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> Wow what a list we're getting !
>
>
> Prizm and Goodness (mid may)
> Neil P
> Ramblin' Rose (aja) and Emily  (mid april)
> flip flop (scott)
> Outpost and Echo (April 17)
> jim and doNa
> Kevin C
> Scott G  (mid to late april)
> Mike Schaffer
> Kevin ( start 4:20 )
> Kylie skidmore??
> Toby Maxwell (may 8-12)
> Lisa Freathy
> Ryan Hull (early ? mid april)
> Gregory Wilson and his brother
> Holly Eglleston ( April)
>
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> Message: 25
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 21:07:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: "James B." <jims_iphone17 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011... (current list)
> Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I am definatly planning on leaving late march.
> -Blu moon
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> Wow what a list we're getting !
>
>
> Prizm and Goodness (mid may)
> Neil P
> Ramblin' Rose (aja) and Emily  (mid april)
> flip flop (scott)
> Outpost and Echo (April 17)
> jim and doNa
> Kevin C
> Scott G  (mid to late april)
> Mike Schaffer
> Kevin ( start 4:20 )
> Kylie skidmore??
> Toby Maxwell (may 8-12)
> Lisa Freathy
> Ryan Hull (early ? mid april)
> Gregory Wilson and his brother
> Holly Eglleston ( April)
>
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> Message: 26
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 03:28:47 -0800 (PST)
> From: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l]  Thru hikers for 2011... (current list)
> Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Wow guys,  31 people now !~
> ~Paul
>
>
>
>
> Prizm and Goodness (mid may)
> Neil P
> Ramblin' Rose (aja) and Emily  (mid april)
> flip flop (scott)
> Outpost and Echo (April 17)
> jim and Dona
> Kevin C
> Scott G  (mid to late april)
> Mike Schaffer
> Kevin ( start 4:20 )
> Kylie skidmore??
> Toby Maxwell (may 8-12)
> Lisa Freathy
> Ryan Hull (early ? mid april)
> Gregory Wilson and his brother
> Holly Eglleston ( April)
> Karl Jorgenson, Jorgy
> Hansel and Gretel (Nick and Emily)
> Whitnee Goode
> Sarah howard (ko)
> Steven dvsteven (mid april)
> Alexander asai (late april)
> Colin and topsy Turvy (mid-late april)
> Robert Henry
> James B (blue moon ? march)
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 03:46:29 -0800
> From: "Jim Keener ( J J )" <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Conditions on San Antonio
> To: PCT-L MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Greetings,
>
> >From Bruce Watts, Nomad Ventures in the "Idyllwild Town Crier": " . . .
> the entire upper mountain region is coated in ice and snow. The Devil's
> Slide Trail is described as a toboggan run with packed ice and there is
> about a foot of snow on top of ice at Saddle Junction." Published:
> 12/2/2011.
>
> Jim Keener ( J J )
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 04:10:42 -0800
> From: "Jim Keener ( J J )" <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Correction: Conditions on SAN JACINTO
> To: PCT-L MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> >From Bruce Watts, Nomad Ventures in the "Idyllwild Town Crier": " . . .
> the entire upper mountain region is coated in ice and snow. The Devil's
> Slide Trail is described as a toboggan run with packed ice and there is
> about a foot of snow on top of ice at Saddle Junction." Published:
> 12/2/2011.
>
> Jim Keener ( J J )
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 14:42:36 +0000 (UTC)
> From: enyapjr at comcast.net
> Subject: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
>        (hammock comment)
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>        <
> 486323594.267244.1291646556316.JavaMail.root at sz0027a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net
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> >From Whitnee:
> > What about a hammock? Those look really nice, but are there always places
> to set them up?
>
> >From Paul:
> > there are a lot of places in the beginning where you simply can't set up
> a hammock.
> > impossible.
>
> Granted, that first sentence can be true 'many' times - but there is also
> many places in the
> 'beginning' where one CAN set up a hammock.  Therefore it is NOT
> impossible!!
>
> If one doesn't want to let hanging opportunities dictate daily mileage,
> then one would also
> include a pad for going to ground if needed or desired (the pad would also
> be used for hammock
> bottom insulation and, perhaps most importantly, daily as a rest break
> sit/siesta pad)...
> Others have hammocked the PCT previously, only going to ground a very few
> times...
>
> See <http://www.backcountry.net/arch/pct/0403/msg00694.html> and
> <http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showpost.php?p=331788&postcount=17>
> (or start from the
> beginning of the parent thread) for some 'experienced' answers...  Then
> HYOH!  ;-)
>
> Happy trails!!!
> Jim (PITA)
>
>
> Support the Pacific Crest Trail Association and its mission:
> Protect, preserve, and promote the Pacific Crest National Scenic Trail...
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>
> "You may never know what results come of your action, but if you do nothing
> there will be no result." - Mahatma Gandhi
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 30
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:13:58 +0000
> From: <gwschenk at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lone Pine vs Independance resupply:
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net, Ron Dye <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
> Message-ID: <20101206151358.8VA6F.112593.root at hrndva-web08-z01>
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>
> An excellent summary.  Here's my two cents.
>
> ---- Ron Dye <chiefcowboy at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > Now, when you exit from KP you will be in Independence where there is not
> > much of anything.  Reports I have heard on lodging are that it is
> adequate.
>
> Ray's Den Motel in Independence is the best motel on the 395. Not the
> cheapest though, the Dow Villa is indeed a good stop.
>
> > However, if you take a southbound hitch about 10-15 miles - and Highway
> 395
> > is a well-travelled road - you find yourself in Lone Pine.  In Lone Pine,
> > the best breakfast and lunch are at the Alabama Hills Caf? - they feed
> hiker
> > portions to everyone all year around.  There is a Pizza Factory although
> I
> > find his prices ridiculously high.  The Carousel Restaurant offers
> excellent
> > asian cuisine and Seasons Restaurant is always good if you're looking for
> an
> > upscale dining experience.
>
> The spaghetti with tomato and basil sauce is not only the cheapest item on
> Season's menu, it is also the best item. Avoid the Mt. Whitney Restaurant.
>
> > Elevations is an equipment store that has quality hiking gear, reasonable
> > prices and on occasion, the owner has been known to give a 5% discount to
> > PCT hikers!  This is an excellent place to replace anything that needs it
> > without having to take a serious side-trip to Bishop which is 60 miles
> > north.
>
> I like Elevations a lot, it's hard to believe she can pack as much gear as
> she does into the small store.
>
> > Most importantly, Joseph's Bi-Rite Market has been in business over 100
> > years...
>
> And some of the items on the shelf have been there almost as long. Always
> check the expiration dates, and don't buy the green meat!
>
> Gary
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 31
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:20:42 +0000
> From: <gwschenk at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net, Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <20101206152042.G47HB.112646.root at hrndva-web08-z01>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Before you decide, check out the Big Agnes Seedhouse. It handles weather
> very well, and is very light. My girlfriend and I are happy with ours, it's
> worth considering.
>
> Gary
>
> ---- Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The only reason I'm hesitating with the tarptent is that it seems?it
> would be a pain in the ass to set up. I'm going solo, so I want something
> simple. They're simple enough, I suppose, but there's so many options and I
> can't make up my mind, haha! What about a hammock? Those look really nice,
> but are there always places to set them up? The Wild Oasis is floorless,
> which is great in the snow, but I'm a bit weary about ticks and other
> bloodsuckers. I could get over that, I bet :-) The weight savings just might
> be worth it... But?I also don't know how I could do that in the rain,
> especially with a down sleeping bag like the sub kilo. I'm leaning toward
> the sublite tarptent. I'm not sure which one-- sil or original. I eventually
> need to make a desicion :-) eenie meenie minee mo...
> > ?
> > Whitnee
> >
> > --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (tarptent comment)
> > To: "Lisa Freathy" <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>, "Whitnee Goode" <
> whitneegoode at yahoo.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 6:03 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > about tarptents...
> > i've moved to one,? in 2010 i hiked using the marmot Aeolos 2P... rock
> solid ... and TWICE we had the only standing tent in the morning (out of 4
> and 5 tents)... but you're talking in the 6 lb range.
> >
> > the tarptent style takes a little more care in how you face the wind,?
> and maybe a few more rocks around you tent stakes to keep them in,? but the
> weight savings are so very worth it (to me)
> > i've been useing the Nemo Meta 2P? used it 14 nights now... for the
> weight it is a big improvement over a 4 poled tent like a Marmot.?? it has
> bug netting etc. so as to provide some mosquito protection.? is it as
> strong?? of course not...? might i be miserable one night out of 130
> nights?? sure.? but its worth it for the weight.
> >
> > the biggets downside is some condensation,?? So i take a 5 inch square of
> ShamWOW with me and qipe off the tent walls come morning ... (roll this up
> and put it in the center of your pack for an ice cold 2PM spongebath in the
> heat of the day!)...
> >
> > as for staking... i do this on rocky surfaces...? open my trekking pole,?
> or run the trucking pole somewhow through the guy rope (or nylon loops;
> whichever you have) and then lay that down o nthe ground and put some big
> old rocks on it.? this is stronger than just putting a stake in the ground;?
> though it is a lot more trouble it's worth it on a stormy night.
> >
> > ~Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
> > To: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>; pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 12:10:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
> >
> > I have the?women's long?even though?I am only?5'5". I like to be able to
> move
> > around and slide down into the bag and I felt that the long was less
> > constrictive.?I rarely have problems w/my feet being cold even though I
> have the
> > extra length. I typically don't sleep with socks and have?only needed to
> twice,
> > once in approx. 20* weather at 9800' and once during a cold?March night
> > with?crazy wind.?
> >
> > I was just gifted a?FlyCreek UL1 tent but have yet to receive.?I am
> excited to
> > check it out, and at 2lbs it is not too bad for a freestanding tent. I
> have
> > never used a tarp?tent and had?not ever seen one until the KO last year.
> They
> > look very roomy and?I?like the ones with the bug netting?but I have no
> > experience on how easy they are to set up and how they perform in super
> winds,
> > rain, hail, etc. Also, what are the options for set up if you are on a
> rock
> > surface and can't stake??I can see the up side to ta tarptent?for sure,
> > especially at their weight and pack size, but what, if any are the down
> sides?
> > I'll probably start with a tent since that is what I am comfortable with,
> but I
> > am always open to change and will be interested to see so many of these
> on the
> > trail as they seem popular!
> >
> > Happy Hiking!Lisa
> >
> >
> > "Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile,
> and climb
> > a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
> > ~ John Muir
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 12:08:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
> >
> > I'm going to try to rip the stuff sack before I go then (not really try,
> but be
> > hard on it) so I don't get stuck on the pct without one. I'm glad you
> love
> > yours!?That makes me excited :-) How's the size? It seems like a lot of
> people
> > say it's too small or only for really skinny people. How skinny does one
> need to
> > be in order to fit comfortably??What kind of shelter do you have? I'm
> thinking
> > about getting either the Wild Oasis from Six Moons Designs or the the
> Sublite
> > tarptent...
> > ?
> > Whitnee
> >
> > --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
> > To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 12:52 AM
> >
> >
> > I LOVE mine!!!??
> >
> >
> > The compress sack that came w/ripped at the straps after a couple of
> trips, but
> > they let me take my pick off the shelf for a replacement one. I tore out
> the
> > draw cord last year and ripped a section, (I was using as a blanket while
> > lakeside and accidentally stepped on the bag while trying to pull the
> hood
> > closed while walking back to the tent, not the best protection?plan). I
> thought
> > they were no longer available at REI so I easily sewed the rip and
> re-strung the
> >
> > cord rather than return and it seems to be holding up fine where I did
> the
> > repair.
> >
> > My friend borrows my hubby's sub kilo whenever she goes with me and is
> buying
> > one for herself this week. Great price right now!?
> > ?Lisa
> >
> >
> > "Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile,
> and climb
> >
> > a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
> > ~ John Muir
> >
> >
> > From: Whitnee Goode whitneegoode at yahoo.com
> >
> > Just bought one!! AHHH! I hope I made a good choice... can't beat REI's
> return
> > policy though :-)
> >
> >
> > ? ? ?
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> Message: 32
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:40:50 -0600
> From: "Ron Dye" <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Conditions on San Antonio
> To: "'Jim Keener \( J J \)'" <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>,     "'PCT-L
>        MailingList'" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I think that refers to San Jacinto?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Jim Keener ( J J )
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 5:46 AM
> To: PCT-L MailingList
> Subject: [pct-l] Conditions on San Antonio
>
> Greetings,
>
> >From Bruce Watts, Nomad Ventures in the "Idyllwild Town Crier": " . . .
> the
> entire upper mountain region is coated in ice and snow. The Devil's Slide
> Trail is described as a toboggan run with packed ice and there is about a
> foot of snow on top of ice at Saddle Junction." Published: 12/2/2011.
>
> Jim Keener ( J J )
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> Message: 33
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 23:14:14 +1300
> From: Jonathan Derecourt <just_jono at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011...
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>
> My Fiance (as long as she says yes at the altar, will be wife in January)
> and I are planning on a thru-hike - our current plan is to start at
> kick-off.  Just gotta get all our visa issues sorted (I'm from New Zealand,
> so trying to sort out that 6 month visa... ).  With some luck, we might even
> get a little of our gear as wedding presents. Fingers crossed!
>
> Jono
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 34
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 08:58:47 -0800
> From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Hammock Sleeping
> To: PCT listserve <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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> Good morning, all,
>
> Another consideration when deciding to hammock or not to hammock is social.
> Those who believe they may prefer to hike/camp with a group -- large or
> small -- may have difficulty finding a hang-up when the group plops down
> and
> says, ?This is it for the day.?
>
>
>
> Nominally lone hikers, who do pretty much their own thing, should have an
> easier time; being able to knock off early if a good hang-up presents
> itself, or conversely to trudging on for a mile or so to find just the
> right
> spot.
>
>
>
> Many hikers think of themselves as rugged individualists, but they can?t
> always know in advance the extent to which they may gravitate toward hiking
> in some sort of ?posse?.
>
>
>
> ?The leader shouted to the crowd, ?I'm a rugged individualist!? to which
> everyone replied, ?Yeah, me too ... me too ... me too ... me too ...??    -
> Norman D. Thompson
>
>
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT ? 1965
>
> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
>
> http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 35
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:12:35 -0500
> From: Ernie Castillo <erniec01 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011...
> To: <just_jono at hotmail.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <COL112-W55AAF7C18EEB94117CB843D82B0 at phx.gbl>
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>
> Congratulations.
> So, are the bride and groom registered at REI?
>
> Ernie Castillo
> Charter member of Revolving Ramen who doesn't claim to have input to the
> name, PCT Class of 1980
>
>
> > From: just_jono at hotmail.com
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 23:14:14 +1300
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru hikers for 2011...
> >
> >
> > My Fiance (as long as she says yes at the altar, will be wife in January)
> and I are planning on a thru-hike - our current plan is to start at
> kick-off. Just gotta get all our visa issues sorted (I'm from New Zealand,
> so trying to sort out that 6 month visa... ). With some luck, we might even
> get a little of our gear as wedding presents. Fingers crossed!
> >
> > Jono
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> Message: 36
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:15:22 -0800
> From: Meaghan McCamman <meaghan0231 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lone Pine vs Independance resupply:
> To: gwschenk at socal.rr.com
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I would not miss the chance to hike over Kearsarge Pass, whatever you do.
>  That was one of the most beautiful parts of the entire thru-hike.
> Spillz
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:13 AM, <gwschenk at socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > An excellent summary.  Here's my two cents.
> >
> > ---- Ron Dye <chiefcowboy at verizon.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Now, when you exit from KP you will be in Independence where there is
> not
> > > much of anything.  Reports I have heard on lodging are that it is
> > adequate.
> >
> > Ray's Den Motel in Independence is the best motel on the 395. Not the
> > cheapest though, the Dow Villa is indeed a good stop.
> >
> > > However, if you take a southbound hitch about 10-15 miles - and Highway
> > 395
> > > is a well-travelled road - you find yourself in Lone Pine.  In Lone
> Pine,
> > > the best breakfast and lunch are at the Alabama Hills Caf? - they feed
> > hiker
> > > portions to everyone all year around.  There is a Pizza Factory
> although
> > I
> > > find his prices ridiculously high.  The Carousel Restaurant offers
> > excellent
> > > asian cuisine and Seasons Restaurant is always good if you're looking
> for
> > an
> > > upscale dining experience.
> >
> > The spaghetti with tomato and basil sauce is not only the cheapest item
> on
> > Season's menu, it is also the best item. Avoid the Mt. Whitney
> Restaurant.
> >
> > > Elevations is an equipment store that has quality hiking gear,
> reasonable
> > > prices and on occasion, the owner has been known to give a 5% discount
> to
> > > PCT hikers!  This is an excellent place to replace anything that needs
> it
> > > without having to take a serious side-trip to Bishop which is 60 miles
> > > north.
> >
> > I like Elevations a lot, it's hard to believe she can pack as much gear
> as
> > she does into the small store.
> >
> > > Most importantly, Joseph's Bi-Rite Market has been in business over 100
> > > years...
> >
> > And some of the items on the shelf have been there almost as long. Always
> > check the expiration dates, and don't buy the green meat!
> >
> > Gary
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> Message: 37
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:29:06 -0800 (PST)
> From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Food Dehydrator Tips or Recipes?
> To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Hi!
>
> I received a food dehydrator as a gift last week and just?put in my first
> trays
> of apple, pineapple and bananas to see how this thing works. Are there any
> favorite dehydrator recipes that you love or tips that I?could play with as
> I
> get to know my new machine?
>
> I was planning on looking up online if it is possible for me to?dehydrate
> home
> made chili or soups. Has anybody had experience with this?
>
> The instruction book indicates dried foods may be stored for approx. a week
> on
> counter, a month in fridge and many months in a freezer. I had planned on
> dehydrating this winter to send over the summer months but am concerned by
> the
> storage time table I read. Did I misunderstand or are they perhaps being
> overly
> cautious? Should I be freezing my dried foods now and have my support
> person add
> to my boxes last minute? What have you all done as I know I have read of
> many
> accounts of dehydrators running all winter long to prepare for the summer
> months. I was thinking about getting a vacuum sealer for storage.
>
> Thanks!
> ?Lisa
>
>
> "Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and
> climb
> a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
> ~ John Muir
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 38
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:47:41 -0800
> From: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food Dehydrator Tips or Recipes?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
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> >
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>
> Good question!  Check out this links list:
> http://planyourhike.com/links/index.html
>
> Scroll down to the part that says: 'Trail Food Related"
>
> Hope it helps.  :)
>
> --
> Austin Williams
>
> www.PlanYourHike.com
> Info on PCT gear, resupply points, maps, movies, etc.
>
> "Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway."
> -John Wayne
>
>
>
>
> --
> Austin Williams
>
> www.PlanYourHike.com
> Info on PCT gear, resupply points, maps, movies, etc.
>
> "Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway."
> -John Wayne
>
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