[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 32, Issue 13

Barrett Braun bbraunlaw at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 10 12:00:29 CDT 2010


I apologize for this reply going to strange places, I have only posted a few times in the past but regarding Trash -- if you Hike it in, Hike it out.  Frankly I was surprised to see anyone here suggesting that they would leave their trash on the hopes that a trail angel would clean up after them.  Do the world a favor and stay in the grid until you are ready to nature without trashing it.  Better yet, - nah nevermind. 

Madfoot - forever Section Hiker

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>    1. Section O drying out (greg mushial)
>    2. Portland->PCT transportation
> options (slow at acedsl.com)
>    3. Looking for a companion 4 2011 (Lisa
> Freathy)
>    4. Re: iphone vs droid for thru-hike
>       (Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot
> com)
>    5. Walk the Amazon (Amanda L Silvestri)
>    6. Re: Walk the Amazon (Ken Powers)
>    7. Re: Thru Hiker Trash (Eugene Leafty)
>    8. Re: Degree bag for thru hike? (Eugene
> Leafty)
>    9. Redding, CA (Carey)
>   10. Re: Redding, CA (Halfmile)
>   11. Car Shuttle (carol bruno)
> 
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 12:07:49 -0700
> From: "greg mushial" <gmushial at gmdr.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Section O drying out
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> 
> Section O water sources, at least at the beginning, are
> drying up. I had 
> planned on doing section O over 6 days, taking my time -
> ended up coming 
> home the 2nd day. [If I had water carriers for more than 2
> qts, the drying 
> sources wouldn't have been a problem, ie, I'd probably
> still be walking - 
> though it would have been more of a trip of off trail
> excusions to find 
> water than a PCT walk I'm afraid.] My plan is to try
> section O again, next 
> June, just after the snow leaves and there is still plenty
> of water sources.
> 
> Water at Rock Creek is not a problem (mile 1429 [ref
> HalfMile's maps]) - the 
> creek is several feet wide and a foot deep (and turned out
> to be my only 
> good water source for what I did). Any of the other trail
> crossing streams 
> from there until Peavine creek are dry. On HalfMile's maps
> WA1425 is marked. 
> If this is suppose to be the upper reaches of Screwdriver
> Crk where the PCT 
> crosses it at 1434.6: it's dry. If this is a reference to
> the 0.1 mile trail 
> down (left and south of the PCT) - that's going quickly - I
> had to dig a 
> hole in the mud deep enough to get my water bottle into (1
> qt gatorade 
> bottle) in order to get the mouth below "water" (mud)
> level, and then had to 
> wait some time for the little flow to clean out the hole,
> before I could 
> (1/2) fill the bottle. Peavine Crk still has a flow (a
> gallon / min??) but 
> is starting to grow over with algea (this is on the
> downstream side of the 
> culvert where the PCT crosses it) - I didn't check the
> upstream side - maybe 
> there was a better, clean filling spot there. I ended up
> walking the half 
> mile or so, down to Rock Crk where there was plenty of
> flow.
> 
> Part of the reason I post this is: I essentially got caught
> "with my pants 
> down", ie, I had spoken to a section hiker on the 27th when
> they reached 
> Castle Crags (having just done O), where they said that
> there was plenty of 
> water (in O), more water sources than the maps showed. When
> I asked: how 
> many water bottles they were carrying, the reply was 2 qts,
> and that was 
> plenty, if not too much. I walked the same route on the 7th
> (of Aug), and 
> the water situation was entirely changed. [and yes, I
> believe I was given 
> honest information, which I'm still grateful for, ie, not
> sandbagged].
> 
> As an aside: given that I was planning on 12-15 mile days,
> and only had 2 
> qts, was looking forward to the next section being 20+
> miles known without 
> water, and given what I had just run into, with maybe even
> with less water 
> than expected forward - I bailed and walked back out on
> 37N30 (which follows 
> RockCrk, ie, pleeenty of water), back to Rock Crk Falls and
> 37N02 back ot 
> the lake. [I'll post more on this route - which is not a
> bad escape route... 
> but has a couple route finding gotchas.]
> 
> put one foot ahead of the other, repeat until done,
> TheDuck 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:51:11 -0400
> From: slow at acedsl.com
> Subject: [pct-l] Portland->PCT transportation options
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <20100808135111.193161o9zm3d4uww at www.aceinnovative.com>
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> Hello -- I'm heading to Portland next weekend to start a
> little  
> southbound jaunt along the PCT.  Hoping to take public
> transportation  
> to Cascade Locks (or, preferably, to the Eagle Creek
> trailhead) but  
> haven't discovered any.  Does anyone know of any good
> options for  
> getting to the trail from Portland?  Any other tips
> for a reasonably  
> experienced hiker who's never been on the PCT before? 
> Any must-see or  
> must-avoid trailside wonders in Oregon?  Thanks,
> slowace
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 13:32:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Looking for a companion 4 2011
> To: sherri20 at msn.com
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <578463.25681.qm at web113004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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> 
> Hi Sherri,
> 
> I too am planning a 2011 thru attempt solo.... congrats to
> you for following 
> your dream next year!?At first I was nervous about heading
> out there alone, but 
> this year I went to the ADZPCTKO event to help get rid of
> some butterflies and 
> within hours knew that there would be absolutely no problem
> finding?MANY 
> wonderful, friendly, helpful folks to journey with.?A few
> weeks ago I spent the 
> weekend with hikers at Sonora Pass (approx 1000 miles into
> the trail) and the 29 
> amazing hikers I spent time with during those two days?only
> further reassured me 
> that if I wanted to hike with others?next year I would?have
> tons of 
> opportunities?to meet?new friends to hike with. Some of
> these hikers were still 
> with groups they met on day 2 of the trail while others
> were leap frogging?each 
> other and spending time with different people along the
> way. I was amazed at how 
> many hikers were so close to one another past the 1000 mile
> point (I met 29 thru 
> hikers within a 1 1/2 day period and there were still many
> in town that I didn't 
> get the chance to meet).
> 
> For all of the?many reasons listed by others in previous
> posts I have decided 
> not to commit myself in advance to hiking with any one
> person, but I am 100% 
> confident I will have?the chance to hike with tons of fun
> people along the way. 
> I look forward to meeting you (and your pup) out there as
> well!!
> 
> Happy Hiking!
> Lisa 
> 
> 
> "Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once
> in awhile, and climb 
> a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit
> clean."
> ~ John Muir 
> 
> From: Sherri Worrell <sherri20 at msn.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 9:49:18 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] Looking for a companion 4 2011
> 
> 
> Hi, My name is Sherri and I am new to the forum. I am
> planning a thru hike for 
> 2011. It's something I've wanted to do for years. At this
> point I am going alone 
> with my dog. (I don't need criticism about the dog. I am
> very educated about 
> animals and promise to do right by my boy.) I don't know a
> sole with the will or 
> means to join me so I'm wondering if anyone else is looking
> for a trail mate.? I 
> have most of my gear and would be willing to share what I
> can. I also have 
> someone committed to sending resupply boxes and several
> resources in the so-cal 
> sections and a few by lake Tahoe. Any and all suggestions
> would be great. Sherri 
> 
> 
>       
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 13:54:59 -0700
> From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
>     <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] iphone vs droid for thru-hike
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>     <666C8384-8952-49A3-9D1A-55C6D15897C0 at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes;
> format=flowed
> 
> 
> On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all!
> >
> > a few thru hike questions:
> >
> > iPHONE VS DROID
> >
> > VERIZON VS AT&T
> >
> > I plan on taking one of these smartphones for my 2011
> thru hike for  
> > maps, journaling, communication, camera,
> entertainment, etc. ?thank  
> > you in advance for all thoughts, comments, and advice.
> ?happy trails
> >
> > Mikey Jurado
> 
> My advice is to leave them both home and bring a phone that
> is only a  
> phone and nothing more. Do yourself a favor and disconnect.
> Have a  
> completely unmitigated experience of the trail and trail
> culture and  
> trail magic and serendipity. Go with the flow. xperience
> all of it in  
> the raw without the safety net of a computer screen.
> 
> I know everyone will have a ton of reasons why that is a
> stupid  
> suggestion ranging from the ease of use of having one
> device that  
> does it all to any number of other conveniences and
> preferences.  
> Don't tell them to me. I'm offering up my own experience as
>> suggestion. Do what YOU think is right.
> 
> 
> 
> Books I've written:
> ~ Piper's Flight
> ~ Adventure and Magic
> ~ Santa Barbara Hikes
> http://stores.lulu.com/dianesoini
> 
> We're not here for a long time, but we are here for a good
> time
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:34:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Amanda L Silvestri <aslive at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Walk the Amazon
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <66362.79017.qm at web80805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> I just saw where a man from England walked the entire
> length of the Amazon River, some 4,000 miles!  Now that
> is a long distence hiker.
> 
> Shepherd
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:41:40 -0700
> From: Ken Powers <ken at gottawalk.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Walk the Amazon
> To: "Amanda L Silvestri" <aslive at sbcglobal.net>,
>     <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
> <1397BCB902C140C088F23D382109A5FB at Desktop2008>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   
> charset="Windows-1252"
> 
> Hmm. that's strange. Someone just emailed me this link:
> http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/08/09/brazil.amazon.hiker/?hpt=Mid
> 
> Ken
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Amanda L Silvestri" <aslive at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:34 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] Walk the Amazon
> 
> 
> I just saw where a man from England walked the entire
> length of the Amazon 
> River, some 4,000 miles!  Now that is a long distence
> hiker.
> 
> Shepherd
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 01:23:55 -0700
> From: "Eugene Leafty" <atetuna at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru Hiker Trash
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> 
> I think it's lame for hikers to leave behind trash of their
> own.  I figure
> if you bring trash to the trail, you should pack it
> out.  
> 
> I don't feel that this always applies to the trash created
> as part of the
> cache.  In this case I do what's practical for me to
> do that puts the least
> amount of burden on the trail angel(s) that had provided a
> valuable
> resource.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of arcpass at aol.com
> 
> Is it absoultely forbidden for a thru hiker to leave any of
> their trash at a
> water cache?  Or is this an accepted practice so that
> thru hikers don't have
> to carry any excess weight?
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 01:44:19 -0700
> From: "Eugene Leafty" <atetuna at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Degree bag for thru hike?
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <SNT102-DS42D981EC3DD7C15425AAFB1950 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I went with a zero degree quilt, but I hit the trail very
> early.  It was
> more than I needed, but my quilt was still very light.
> 
> The pro of sharing is less weight.  The con is having
> to smell each other in
> close proximity after many days without a proper bath.
> 
> I got my down quilt from Tim Marshall who owns and operates
> EnLIGHTened
> Equipment.  I highly recommend him if you can afford
> the time and money.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of juliak.marsh at gmail.com
> 
> What degree sleeping bag do folks usually take for a thru
> hike? Pros and
> cons of sharing a down quilt with a hiking partner (who's
> also my boyfriend)
> - for pros I'd appreciate any recs on where to get a down
> quilt.
> 
> Thanks, Julia
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:36:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Carey <meandyou2go at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Redding, CA
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
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> 
> Hi,
> Does anyone have recommendations on a place to stay in
> Redding? Hotel reviews are all over the place for the more
> affordable hotels. I'm meeting my thru-hiker boyfriend up
> there.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
>       
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:10:51 -0700
> From: Halfmile <list at lon.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Redding, CA
> To: Carey <meandyou2go at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Pct-L at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
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> 
> I stayed in the Redding Travelodge a few weeks ago and it
> was OK. A
> bit inconveniently located if you happen to arrive on the 2
> AM train
> and have no transportation and the complementary breakfast
> required a
> drive down the freeway to a restaurant, which didn't work
> for us
> without a car. They did have free computer and printer
> access and
> Redding has bus service during the day. I think it was 105
> degrees the
> day I was there.
> Have you considered meeting in a town closer to the trail
> like
> Chester, Dunsmuir, Mt Shasta, Etna, Ashland?
> -Halfmile
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Carey <meandyou2go at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Does anyone have recommendations on a place to stay in
> Redding? Hotel reviews are all over the place for the more
> affordable hotels. I'm meeting my thru-hiker boyfriend up
> there.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:50:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: carol bruno <carolwbruno at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Car Shuttle
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> 
> Will anyone be available Wed afternoon, 8/11 to give me a
> ride from Onion Valley 
> trailhead to Horseshoe Meadows?? I would be happy to
> compensate with gas money, 
> dinner, and undying appreciation.? So, if anyone is in the
> area and this works 
> out, great!? Otherwise, I will be hitchhiking on one or the
> other end of my 
> hike.? Then again, maybe Switchback will recue me on his
> trike!? 
> 
> Can't Quit
> Female Terminator Extraordinaire
> 
> 
> 
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> ? 1. Re: First PCT Thru-Triker (Ground Pounder)
> ? 2. iphone vs droid for thru-hike (Michael Jurado)
> ? 3. Re: iphone vs droid for thru-hike (Jim & Jane
> Moody)
> ? 4. Re: First PCT Thru-Triker (hiker97 at aol.com)
> ? 5.? iphone vs droid for thru-hike (Sean 'Miner' Nordeen)
> ? 6. Re: iphone vs droid for thru-hike (Bill Burge)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 11:14:30 -0700
> From: "Ground Pounder" <groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] First PCT Thru-Triker
> To: <hiker97 at aol.com>,???
> <asabat at 4jeffrey.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> 
> "How's Your Trail?" I don't feel sorry for but? what you
> said? I know is
> true? To all My Veteran Buddies? "Thanks"? and Remember "Be
> Prepared"
> Ground Pounder Bill "Semper Fi"
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of hiker97 at aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:57 PM
> To: asabat at 4jeffrey.net
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] First PCT Thru-Triker
> 
> 
> AsABat writes: Don't forget your guidebook, the "Pacific
> Crest Bicycle
> Trail" by Bil Paul (yes, only that's spelled correct).
> Amazon has them from
> $99, so even though out of print for 20 years it must still
> be popular. Yes
> I have a copy, no Switchback you can't have it.? Unlike the
> hikes of my good
> friend Switchback, who at his advanced age hikes only in
> his dreams, I did
> just return from a real, live, fully supported hike of
> Section P from Castle
> Crags to Etna. I was met each night by a beautiful woman in
> a camper van who
> gave me a hot meal and cold drinks, offered me a hot
> shower, and shared a
> soft bed with me. What a way to hike. And yes, AsABat does
> have the most
> wonderful wife in the world.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Switchback replies: Well, congratulations on your hike.?
> Well done by both
> you and your better half.? Yes, there are many who make fun
> of us senior
> combat veterans and our now limited trail abilities. Age
> and war injuries
> have finally taken their toll.? But in spite of the hazing
> and harassment,
> we labor on in good cheer.? We remember that there would be
> no trail or
> country without our sacrifices.
> 
> Say, I wonder if anyone is buying this and feels sorry for
> me.? Heh, heh,
> heh.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 12:54:03 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Michael Jurado <kungfutbol at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] iphone vs droid for thru-hike
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <127985.54527.qm at web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
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> 
> Hi all!
> 
> a few thru hike questions:
> 
> iPHONE VS DROID
> 
> VERIZON VS AT&T
> 
> I plan on taking one of these smartphones for my 2011 thru
> hike for maps, 
> journaling, communication, camera, entertainment, etc.?
> thank you in advance for 
> all thoughts, comments, and advice.? happy trails
> 
> Mikey Jurado
> 
> 
> ? ? ? 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 20:45:18 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] iphone vs droid for thru-hike
> To: Michael Jurado <kungfutbol at yahoo.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> ??? 
> <889852837.1224126.1281300318925.JavaMail.root at sz0094a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
> 
> ??? 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> 
> 
> My experience is based only on the first 1,000 miles - from
> Campo to Sonora 
> Pass.? I had a Blackberry with AT&T service.? Several
> places I had service when 
> Verizon carriers didn't, e.g., VVR only has AT&T
> service.? I can't remember a 
> place where Verizon had service but AT&T didn't.? Most
> of the time, we either 
> both had it or both didn't. 
> 
> 
> Mango 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Jurado" <kungfutbol at yahoo.com>
> 
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2010 3:54:03 PM 
> Subject: [pct-l] iphone vs droid for thru-hike 
> 
> Hi all! 
> 
> a few thru hike questions: 
> 
> iPHONE VS DROID 
> 
> VERIZON VS AT&T 
> 
> I plan on taking one of these smartphones for my 2011 thru
> hike for maps, 
> journaling, communication, camera, entertainment, etc.
> ?thank you in advance for 
> all thoughts, comments, and advice. ?happy trails 
> 
> 
> Mikey Jurado 
> 
> 
> ?? ? ? 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 17:13:09 -0400
> From: hiker97 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] First PCT Thru-Triker
> To: groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net,
> asabat at 4jeffrey.net
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <8CD0555A2A8477C-251C-17F6D at webmail-d024.sysops.aol.com>
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> 
> Ground Pounder writes: "How's Your Trail?" I don't feel
> sorry for but? what you 
> said? I know is
> true? To all My Veteran Buddies? "Thanks"? and Remember "Be
> Prepared"? Ground 
> Pounder Bill "Semper Fi"
> --------------------------------------
> Switchback replies: Yes, Ground Pounder is correct.? Also,
> the PCT is populated 
> by many good people.? It is my job to take advantage of
> them.? I will become a 
> icon of the trail as I motor up and down the PCT on my
> trike.? Hikers will want 
> to get rides into down and put their packs into my trike
> trailer.? This will be 
> like a taxi service.? I will have to get some maps out of
> the PCT, CDT, and AT 
> to see what routes I will be using to harass, I mean
> service, the hikers.? This 
> is too cool.? Copious amounts of fun.
> 
> Say, I will be on the PCT on Sunday, August 22.? I will be
> at Tuolumne Meadows 
> Tent Camp. I will do some hiking up Lyle Canyon and across
> Tuolumne Meadows.? I 
> will check things out and see if there are any hikers to
> harass.? Should be a 
> blast.? I wonder if any SoBo hikers will be around?
> 
> I thank you.
> 
> Switchback the Triker Trash
> Undocumented PCT Thru-Triker
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 14:33:00 -0700
> From: "Sean 'Miner' Nordeen" <sean at lifesadventures.net>
> Subject: [pct-l]? iphone vs droid for thru-hike
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I used Verizon in 2009 and hiked with others who had ATT
> (Sprint and Tmobile 
> have poor coverage in comparison).? It seemed like ATT and
> Verizon had similar 
> coverage or it slightly favored ATT in the first half of
> California.? After that 
> it seemed like the service slightly favored Verizon as I
> had coverage in a few 
> places that ATT didn't.? Halfmile's website (of Halfmile's
> PCT Map fame) has 
> been collecting cell and WiFi coverage on the PCT from
> hikers so you might want 
> to check it out.? It's not complete since most hikers don't
> submit info during 
> their hike, but it at least its something.
> 
> I either service will work fine for you.? Pick the phone
> you like best and use 
> that as your criteria.? Though I hear from some iPhone
> owners that ATT's 3G data 
> coverage (not their voice coverage) isn't as widespread as
> Verizons; but thats 
> 2nd hand info so take it with a grain of salt.
> 
> -Miner
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Check my 2009 PCT Journal out at 
> http://www.pct2009.lifesadventures.net/Journal.php
> 
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> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 14:41:32 -0700
> From: Bill Burge <bill at burge.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] iphone vs droid for thru-hike
> To: Michael Jurado <kungfutbol at yahoo.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <8650E6EF-D7C6-46D6-AD04-0E7A25C29B4E at burge.com>
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> 
> 
> The iPhone is a relatively static entity.? The GPS
> capabilities are documented 
> and the apps are reasonably well known.
> 
> I'm kinda an iPhone guy.? I know a bit about Android
> phones, but not a lot about 
> the map/GPS apps available for them.
> 
> The GPS capabilities will vary depending on the handset you
> buy and the carrier 
> it is on - it can/will vary with different combinations of
> these two factors as 
> well as version of Android (a little). 
> 
> 
> BillB
> 
> 
> On Aug 8, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Michael Jurado wrote:
> 
> > Hi all!
> > 
> > a few thru hike questions:
> > 
> > iPHONE VS DROID
> > 
> > VERIZON VS AT&T
> > 
> > I plan on taking one of these smartphones for my 2011
> thru hike for maps, 
> >journaling, communication, camera, entertainment, etc.?
> thank you in advance for 
> >all thoughts, comments, and advice.? happy trails
> > 
> > Mikey Jurado
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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