[pct-l] Best iPhone app(chris "chance" dePolo)

Thu Apr 15 19:20:08 CDT 2010

Check out the peaks app.  You can use it to take pictures and using your location it tags all of the mountain peaks in the distance.  It also tells you their height and distance from you. It's pretty cool.  It then saves the photos to your iphone like a normal picture.

Sent from my iPhone

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  1. Re: Media mail? (Ken Powers)
  2. Postal "theft" (bjbjbj at email.com)
  3. Re: Multivitamin (JIM BRAVO)
  4.  Media mail? (Deems)
  5. Re: Postal "theft" (Timothy Nye)
  6. Re: Postal "theft" (JIM BRAVO)
  7.  RE: Typical SoBo start date (Daniel Cohen)
  8. Re: Why do they have Media mail? (AsABat)
  9. Best iPhone App (Justin Smith)
 10. Re: Best iPhone App (Jim Keener ( J J ) )
 11. Re: Best iPhone App (Laura Newman)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:29:47 -0700
From: Ken Powers <ken at gottawalk.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Media mail?
To: "AsABat" <asabat at 4jeffrey.net>,    <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <CC0B5D72C6894D88B56E84B9B1655486 at Desktop2008>
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but no fuel, because priority mail goes by air. Another idea is to print the 
postage from your computer and tape it onto your boxes. You'll save  +/- a 
dollar on each box.

What is in the 40 lb box? Even if you are exchanging all your equipment and 
adding food that seems quite high.
Remember you have to carry that 40 lbs plus water.

Ken
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "AsABat" <asabat at 4jeffrey.net>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Media mail?

Have you looked at Priority Mail flat rate boxes? No weight limit, but it's
got to fit in their box (and weigh less than 70 pounds).

Biggest box is 12 x 12 x 5.5 and costs $14.50 to ship anywhere in the
country.

AsABat

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Dan Africk <danstheman at gmail.com> wrote:

I just checked UPS ground, and they charge $54 for a 40lb package, while
parcel post is $43. But I'm just guessing at the weight at this point, so
I'll definitely look into it some more. Thanks.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Carl Siechert <carlito at gmail.com> wrote:

And in my experience (also sending actual media via media mail), Media
Mail
takes much longer than Priority Mail or even Parcel Post. Three weeks is
typical, versus 2-4 days for Priority Mail or about a week for parcel
post.
(Maybe it's the time they take to open and inspect some of them!)

If you're looking for cheap, use Parcel Post, which has the extra 
benefit
of being legitimate. (And, as covered in other threads, that's the one 
to
use if you're sending fuel.) Another alternative for the big packages
you're
talking about sending to your friend: UPS Ground. Five days or less from
anywhere in the US to California, and for packages more than about 5
pounds,
it's usually cheaper than Parcel Post.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:19 AM, James Burns <jfburns at gmail.com> wrote:

In my experience (sending actual media via media mail) they tend to 
open
some subset of the boxes to verify them.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 08:19, Dan Africk <danstheman at gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone tried mailing resupply items via media mail? I'm preparing
to
send all of my food out to California from the east coast, which is 
of
course very expensive, and media mail has the same size and weight
limits
but is less than half the price. I'm not talking about sending each
individual resupply package via media mail, just the big boxes that
will
go
to the person who will be sending those packages.

--
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:45:32 -0400
From: bjbjbj at email.com
Subject: [pct-l] Postal "theft"
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Write as many paragraphs as you want to try and justify what would be dishonesty, Victimless crime? Youre trying to short them money, end of story. Not going to argue, just had to point out reality.

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:27:28 -0700
From: JIM BRAVO <jimbravo at wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Multivitamin
To: Dan Zan <dan2001 at live.ca>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Hi Dan:

My wife and I use "Alive" food supplement. Natural ingredients (food, not
synthesized), including just about every micro-nutrient you can imagine. As
I don't always eat a very balanced diet, these take up a lot of the slack.
About 50% off retail at Amazon.com. One with each meal (3x day is ideal).
Shipping them with my maps every so often.

Jim
Straywolf

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Dan Zan <dan2001 at live.ca> wrote:

For those of you who use multivitamins, which do you use and why?

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:28:32 -0700
From: "Deems" <losthiker at sisqtel.net>
Subject: [pct-l]  Media mail?
To: "pct" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Yes, even magazines aren't considered media mail since they contain 
advertising. Funny since, cds are media mail, but vintage-or-modern paper 
magazines aren't media,,, I get confused easily these days..  I've had to 
pay at the PO for delivered media packages that contained magazines that 
were opened, or broke open during delivery. If  you truly count on getting 
your reload, don't send it via media mail.
~~
Does anyone know if the post office actually checks packages in any way to
see if there really are books in them? 

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:37:28 -0700
From: Timothy Nye <timpnye at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Postal "theft"
To: bjbjbj at email.com
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I couldn't agree more.  If I understand the rationalization correctly, he's
entitled because he is a good moral person who helps people and doesn't
cheat, lie or steal to people directly.  But where there is an intervening
entity between the offender and those who ultimately have to pay the freight
(literally), then this is a victimless crime. Apparently, all that is
required is that the "victim" is unaware of the transgression.  I'll ponder
this rationalization next time I mail something and the postage has gone up
yet again. What the heck, lets have the "rich" pay for it!

Yes, this does not involve a great deal of money, but concerns something of
much greater value.  Individual character.  No one is entitled to special
treatment, we are all the same

That there are limited funds available to you is, sorry about
this, irrelevant.  That you chose to help the needy is commendable.  It
loses it's luster, however, when it is treated as the coin of privilage and
superiority.   Just because no one hears the tree fall in the forest doesn't
mean that it hasn't fallen.  The same is true of hikers.  Here the falling
has been heard by a sizable portion of the trail community, many of whom go
to great lengthes to provide assistance to the hiking community, often at
significant financial expense to themselves not to mention time and effort.

By the way, the book (now media) rate for postage is statutory and has been
in effect for at least 50 years. The post office is a constitutional entity.

What's depressing about this to me is that this was posted right after the
lengthy discussion on Billy Goat's lost poles.  I WANT the trail community
to have a higher standard than what may be viewed as permissible behaviour
in society at large.  I WANT the trail to be transformative and to have all
who experience it be elevated.

Am I being unrealistic?

Gourmet

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:45 PM, <bjbjbj at email.com> wrote:

Write as many paragraphs as you want to try and justify what would be
dishonesty, Victimless crime? Youre trying to short them money, end of
story. Not going to argue, just had to point out reality.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:16:56 -0700
From: JIM BRAVO <jimbravo at wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Postal "theft"
To: Timothy Nye <timpnye at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I WANT the trail community to have a higher standard than what may be
viewed as permissible behaviour in society at large.  I WANT the trail to be
transformative and to have all who experience it be elevated.

Am I being unrealistic?

Gourmet

Unrealistic? Yes. But it is also a commendable and honorable intention.
Carry on.

I can't remember the name of the spiritual philosopher who called mankind
essentially "skin encapsulated egos". He nailed it. People tend towards
serving themselves first. We need a lot of training/behavior modification to
do otherwise. That, or a degree of enlightenment so we rise above being just
a "person". Okay, okay. I'll stop, it's just my favorite topic. God help you
if you're sharing a campsite with me at the kick-off...hahaha

Jim
Future PCT Jetsam (or is it Flotsam...)

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:35:53 -0700
From: "Daniel Cohen" <dofdear at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l]  RE: Typical SoBo start date
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>,    <ned at mountaineducation.org>
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Ned,

My research shows that there is no documented formula like a NOBO hike for
when it is appropriate to begin a SOBO.  My research also revealed that most
begin after 20 June.  I've looked back 10 years.  I'm beginning SOBO on 25
June unless there is a dramatic change in the weather.

dofdear aka Thumper

This may be a stupid question and certainly I ought to know this, but when
is the average time when the South-bounders start out from Manning? I seem
to recall it is around June 1st....

Ned Tibbits, Director
Mountain Education
P.O. Box 1477
South Lake Tahoe, Ca. 96156
   P: 888-996-8333
   F: 530-541-1456
   C: 530-721-1551
   http://www.mountaineducation.org

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:42:33 -0700
From: AsABat <asabat at 4jeffrey.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Why do they have Media mail?
To: pct <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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I was curious why they even have media mail. I learned media mail was
created in 1938 to provide lower postage for books to "encourage the flow of
educational materials through the mail" to promote "educational, cultural,
scientific, and informational values." Consider in 1938 there was no
internet and lots more remote homes. In 1984 they added some computer media
(CDs, etc.), but not video games and USB drives and such. (
http://pe.usps.com/text/CSR/PS-334.htm)

In the course of looking this up I also found reference to packages being
opened to verify it qualified and then closed and rubber stamped that it was
opened by the USPS. I then recalled having seen this on some packages I have
received. So yes, sometimes they do check. (
http://www.paperbackswap.com/forum/topic.php?t=173268)

IF the postal service is losing money as they say, and if the work (labor
and fuel) to move a pound of something is the same whether books or not, I
would suspect that media mail might even be a money loser for the post
office.

AsABat

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:46:33 -0700
From: Justin Smith <smilingjustin at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Best iPhone App
To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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We just got a new iPhone to thruhike NOBO.  Does anyone have any App  
suggestions i.e. gps, maps,etc?  Thank you and see you out there . 

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:59:24 -0700
From: "Jim Keener ( J J ) " <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Best iPhone App
To: Justin Smith <smilingjustin at gmail.com>
Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <47BBB6E3-368C-4A0F-B9F3-82F066C900E6 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
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Justin, I tried six GPS apps and settled on MotionX. I have a star/ 
constellation app called SkyGazer. One very useful app for PDF storage  
is Felaur. And Evernote can archive web pages, such as AsABat's water  
report.

Walk well,
Jim Keener ( J J )
http://postholer.com/jj

On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Justin Smith <smilingjustin at gmail.com>  
wrote:

We just got a new iPhone to thruhike NOBO.  Does anyone have any App
suggestions i.e. gps, maps,etc?  Thank you and see you out there .
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:35:15 -0700
From: Laura Newman <newmanonthepct at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Best iPhone App
To: "Jim Keener ( J J )" <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>,    Justin Smith
   <smilingjustin at gmail.com>
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How do you load the maps on motionx?

On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:59 PM, "Jim Keener ( J J ) " <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com 
wrote:

Justin, I tried six GPS apps and settled on MotionX. I have a star/
constellation app called SkyGazer. One very useful app for PDF storage
is Felaur. And Evernote can archive web pages, such as AsABat's water
report.

Walk well,
Jim Keener ( J J )
http://postholer.com/jj

On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Justin Smith <smilingjustin at gmail.com>
wrote:

We just got a new iPhone to thruhike NOBO.  Does anyone have any App
suggestions i.e. gps, maps,etc?  Thank you and see you out there .
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