[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 28, Issue 5

Sat Apr 3 07:01:01 CDT 2010

Good morning, Mad Hatter,

The maps and waypoints are at     http://www.pctmap.net/index.html

Welcome to the PCT and enjoy your hike,

Steel-Eye

Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT – 1965

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On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:46 AM, martin hatton <martin at carpow.com> wrote:

> Jukebox your brilliant re. thx for your list on teh map issue but where do
> I
> get teh Half mile free maps from?
>
> Im a Brit flying in from M.E.
>
> Let me know brother
>
> Mad Hatter.
>
> Virgin Thru hiker and damn proud of it too!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <pct-l-request at backcountry.net>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:19 PM
> Subject: Pct-l Digest, Vol 28, Issue 5
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >   1. Re: snakes and bears and lions and snow and god knows what
> >      else to fear (Don Billings)
> >   2. Re: Guide books (Bradley Issler)
> >   3. Re: new route north from Snoqualmie Pass.
> >      (jeff.singewald at comcast.net)
> >   4. Re: Pct-l Gear List (dsaufley)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:42:24 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Don Billings <dbillings803 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] snakes and bears and lions and snow and god knows
> > what else to fear
> > To: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
> > Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Message-ID: <388450.76868.qm at web55407.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > "A man has got to know his limitations."
> >
> > Clint Eastwood in "Dirty Harry."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
> > To: ruffwork <ruffwork at ruffwork.com>
> > Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 3:48:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] snakes and bears and lions and snow and god knows
> > what else to fear
> >
> > "It's what people know about themselves that makes them afraid."
> >
> > - Clint Eastwood in *High Plains Drifter*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:08:27 -0700
> > From: Bradley Issler <bradley.issler at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Guide books
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Message-ID:
> > <u2ub384e5e21004011108q93c98f7epe4e1ab9f00f4964a at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Porfirio,
> >
> > Oh you done opened up a can of worms now!!!!  You are gonna get a million
> > different responses on this one, but as I said before, I am right and
> > everyone else is wrong :)
> >
> > Anyhow, I used HalfMile's wonderful set of PCT maps that are free.  I
> > loved
> > them. Just keep them in a nice ziploc bag and pull em out when you need
> > em.
> > I also used the Yogi Guidebook.  I sectioned all this stuff out and
> mailed
> > them ahead, to myself.  Not the most convenient way, but it is cheap.
> >
> > The PCT Atlas by Erik The Black is convenient, lightweight, and "fairly"
> > accurate.  I say fairly because my hiking buddy used it and it seemed
> like
> > sometimes the elevation  and water info was sketchy (e.g. some "seasonal"
> > water points were plentiful while some listed as year round (full blue
> > drop)
> > were dry).  But, I think every guidebook out there is subject to some
> > errors
> > here and there.  And, they are really, really expensive.  I know Erik The
> > Black put a lot of time and effort into his books and has to recoup the
> > cost, plus, I suppose it is a limited market too....So, If you can afford
> > it
> > they might be worth it.
> >
> >
> > Peace,
> > Jukebox.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:16:42 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] new route north from Snoqualmie Pass.
> > To: Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
> > Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, Paul' 'Freiman <pfreiman at ucsd.edu>
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> 1655684913.9364191270145802590.JavaMail.root at sz0106a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net
> >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> >
> >
> > Eric,
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't have any first-hand current knowledge about this area, but I will
> > say that the section just north of Snowqulmie Pass along the PCT (from
> > Snowqualmie to the big waterfall just south of Escondido Ridge) was one
> of
> > the most spectacular parts of the entire trail.? Spectacle Lake may just
> > be the pertiest little lake on the entire PCT.? If the trail wasn't close
> > due to fire re-route, there is no way I would recommend missing this
> > section.
> >
> >
> >
> > Elevator
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Lee" <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
> > To: "Paul' 'Freiman" <pfreiman at ucsd.edu>, pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2010 10:28:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] new route north from Snoqualmie Pass.
> >
> > Capt Bivy wrote:
> >>
> > I don't know what the burned out area looked like, but this was a treat.
> > Several really good camp sites too.
> >>
> >
> > I haven't been up there since the fire in that area last summer, but my
> > understanding is that it wasn't a large or vigorous fire; it was just
> very
> > close to the trail so a section of it was closed while it burned. ?I
> don't
> > think there's any particular reason to use Gadget's route this year
> unless
> > you just want to. ?Anyone who has more first-hand knowledge - feel free
> to
> > correct me.
> >
> > Eric
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:18:25 -0700
> > From: "dsaufley" <dsaufley at sprynet.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Gear List
> > To: "'Porfirio Romero'" <pfromero8 at msn.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Message-ID: <002601cad1c7$c7da9ad0$578fd070$@com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hi, Porfirio!  I remember meeting you at Hiker Heaven last year. Hoping
> > all
> > is well.
> >
> > There are excellent resources for the things you are asking about at
> > various
> > locations.  The PCTA website has the Wilderness Press guidebooks at their
> > store, as well as FAQs about the trail and hiking it.  Also, Postholer
> has
> > compiled a list of useful information, as have others.  I have a short
> > list
> > of helpful sites at our website . . . which will link you to these other
> > sites which contain most of what you need to know!
> >
> > http://hikerheaven.com/index_files/Page536.htm
> >
> > L-Rod
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:
> pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> > On Behalf Of Porfirio Romero
> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:21 AM
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-l Gear List
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for the gear list, they were very helpful. One thing though,
> > what
> > about guide books? Did anyone take any or are the trails well marked. I
> > would like to know the best guide to the towns to stop at, the list and
> > ph#
> > of trail angels along the way and maps of the trail. Is there one guide
> > book
> > that can provide all three things? I?m not looking for a guide book that
> > has
> > alot of information about planning since I am out of country and could
> not
> > get it in time for the trail start. This has turned out to be a helpful
> > sight after all. Peace
> >> From: pct-l-request at backcountry.net
> >> Subject: Pct-l Digest, Vol 27, Issue 194
> >> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:06:27 -0500
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >> 1. Gear List (hetchhetchyman at aol.com)
> >> 2. Re: Hiking WA in July with regards to snow and other SOBO
> >> concerns (linsey)
> >> 3. Re: Gear List (hetchhetchyman at aol.com)
> >> 4. Re: Gear List (Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com)
> >> 5. Re: Ultimate List of essential gear (for me anyway!) (kcristler)
> >> 6. Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! (Susan Alcorn)
> >> 7. Re: Water filter question (Brian McLaughlin)
> >> 8. new route north from Snoqualmie Pass. (Freiman, Paul)
> >> 9. Re: Gear List (Kris De Wachter)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:33:56 -0400
> >> From: hetchhetchyman at aol.com
> >> Subject: [pct-l] Gear List
> >> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> Message-ID: <8CC9F41C42D49DF-211C-A152 at webmail-m003.sysops.aol.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> From: Porfirio Romero <pfromero8 at msn.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gear List
> >> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> >> Message-ID: <COL122-W153AB23605A92BE285D9C9E31E0 at phx.gbl>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Wow,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is great. I appreciate Jukebox for the Newbie concideration. Any
> one
> > else
> >> who could give a run down of total gear packed for the trail would be
> > greatly
> >> appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Pack- Mountain Laurel Designs Exodus
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Shelter- Gossamer Gear "The One" tent
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bag- Western Mountaineering Ultra Light Down
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Under Layer- Smartwool Midweight longsleeve Top & Max Ride Polyester
> >> light
> > weight bottoms.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mid layer- Marmot Windshirt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Outer Layer- Patagonia Light Down jacket (Yea, thats right.. I got this
> > jacket on sale, without sales tax cause it was in Oregon!)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Rain Gear- Marmot Precip Jacket(13 0z) and Red Ledge Rain Pants (8 oz)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gloves- Seirus Thin Neoprene/spandex Got 'em on sale at Outdoor World!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Pants Wind/Bug Columbia Pro Fishing Gear Zip off legs
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hat Cold/Sleeping Columbia Nylon covered Fleece with really dorky
> looking
> > ear warmer flaps. Bandana
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Garbage compactor Bag liner for backpack
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ground Sheet- Gossamer Gear Poly-Cro. I would never have believed a
> piece
> > of clear plastic could hold up to thousands of miles of use.. But it's
> > true.
> > I feel foolish for starting the PCT with a heavy sportsmans blanket.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tent Stakes/Bear hang cord.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kitchen- Stove- "Soup Can" Woodburning stove homemade. .9 liter cup Lite
> > My Fire Spork Bic lighter Lite My Fire Fire Steel (Like Flint and Steel)
> > Chunk of brillo Pad
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Camera- Canon Powershot A590 For now..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sleeping Pad- Modified Ridgerest. Brand spanking new.. and cut down to
> > body shape just like the last one! lol!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Knife- Victornox Classic Banana Yellow because I lost my wonderful
> > "Forest" Green one somewhere in the Washington Forest!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Compass and Toothbrush on lanyard. I kept losing my toothbrush in my
> pack
> > until I tied it to my Compass. It's really wierd but the system works.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Headlamp- Petzl Zipka with Red Lens filter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sunglasses- Whatever is on sale at Big 5 most likely.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Water Filter- Mountain Safety Research Pro Ceramic Element/pump action.
> > Cleaned by sanding with Brillo Pad and occasional boiling.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dental Floss container with sewing needle.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Socks 1 pair Kmart Mens Synthetic Dress socks over 1 pair Injinji Toe
> > socks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Water containers-Aqua Fina Bottles
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sub-Totals:
> >> 12.9lbs
> >> 0.00
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheer-Iceaxe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:50:18 -0700 (PDT)
> >> From: linsey <mowoggirl at yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiking WA in July with regards to snow and other
> >> SOBO concerns
> >> To: davidmargavage at gmail.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> Message-ID: <638199.9154.qm at web37107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >>
> >> David wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyone think that hiking the WA section in July a bad idea due to snow?
> >>
> >> Dear David,
> >>
> >> According to Scott W in Yogi's guide, typically the last snow clears
> from
> > Glacier Peak area around mid July. This year will probably be way earlier
> > than that. Last year July section hikers had snow in the Goat Rocks.
> >>
> >> You'll be wishing you were on snow if you hit the black fly season
> wrong.
> > The biting flies in Northern WA are super evil early on during their
> > breeding frenzy. There is no repellent they are repelled by. Tall ripstop
> > booties and mits (ala Ray Jardine) are a welcome addition: impossible to
> > otherwise take off your shoes when stopped with out getting eaten alive
> > and
> > for that matter, they bite right thru mesh shoes. I recommend
> impenetrable
> > shell clothing, a head-net, and Tenacious Tape to repair any holes or you
> > could go crazy. My super light ripstop hard shell pants will stop them IF
> > they don't find a tiny hole but when stopped, they will not give up
> trying
> > to get to you like mosquito's seem to if you ignore them. Luckily this
> > keeps
> > breaks short and the hiking pace fast.
> >>
> >> Sincerely, Lollygag
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:57:50 -0400
> >> From: hetchhetchyman at aol.com
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gear List
> >> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> Message-ID: <8CC9F451AB2CB5B-211C-A466 at webmail-m003.sysops.aol.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry Porfirio, I should have added that I wore a Polyester Blend white
> > shirt, carried twice that many socks and would definitely not carry rain
> > pants until maybe WA and even then.. I dunno.
> >> I also had a pair of cheap Army surplus shorts until.. well let us just
> > say Giardia "took" them. After that i used the shorts from the zipper leg
> > pants. I also used an alcohol stove for the PCT, first a beer can stove
> > and
> > then a heavier Mini Trangia.. Yes I am absolutely crazy, take my advice
> > with
> > a grain of salt or a huge glass of beer.
> >> Cheers-Iceaxe
> >> P.S. Sorry about the doubel spaces Peeps.. My Bad. I am so dumb with
> tech
> > stuff sometimes.. Heck, all the time!
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:57:41 -0700
> >> From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
> >> <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gear List
> >> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <EF76B9EE-2727-4C57-A2EB-6617BEF147E3 at santabarbarahikes.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 31, 2010, at 4:16 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> >>
> >> > Gear List
> >>
> >> Here's my gear list. Warning, it is a PDF.
> >> http://preview.tinyurl.com/yfvusjb
> >>
> >> I added a cotton tie-dye skirt eventually.
> >>
> >> A few other things got swapped now and then. Added a cheap plastic
> >> poncho, ditched the down sweater. Carried a silnylon poncho and a
> >> bivy instead of the tent for a while, traded my tent for a heavier
> >> one after the zipper broke. But basically, that was my gear.
> >>
> >> Diane
> >>
> >>
> >> Books I've written:
> >> ~ Piper's Flight
> >> ~ Adventure and Magic
> >> ~ Santa Barbara Hikes
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:52:10 -0700
> >> From: "kcristler" <kerouc at verizon.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Ultimate List of essential gear (for me anyway!)
> >> To: "JIM BRAVO" <jimbravo at wildblue.net>, <bradley.issler at gmail.com>,
> >> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> >> Message-ID: <15F10FA680BF44A78CD5E56DB37DB95F at YOUR6EA8154886>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> >> reply-type=original
> >>
> >> bummer. grumpy old men intruding on gear threads.
> >> kmc
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "JIM BRAVO" <jimbravo at wildblue.net>
> >> To: <bradley.issler at gmail.com>; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:52 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Ultimate List of essential gear (for me anyway!)
> >>
> >>
> >> > Jukebox:
> >> >
> >> > What in the wide, wide world of sports are you doing putting
> practical,
> >> > field-tested gear suggestions on the PCT-L?? COME ON, if you can't
> find
> >> > something to moan and bitch about, someone to back-bite and/or
> > back-stab,
> >> > or
> >> > bully through the use of convoluted, ego-driven slobber, then just
> >> > don't
> >> > contribute anymore!!!!!! I for one am offended! Come on, let's rumble!
> >> >
> >> > Jim
> >> > Straywolf
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Bradley Issler
> >> > <bradley.issler at gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> 1. Therm-a-rest Neo Air. Why? It's light, strong, comfortable and
> >> >> insulating. You ultra-lighters are a different breed, but for 5
> months
> >> >> on
> >> >> the trail I enjoyed having a "bed" to sleep on. I tried a regular pad
> >> >> for
> >> >> a
> >> >> minute in SoCal, but every night after hiking all day, I found my
> back
> >> >> and
> >> >> hips hurting from the ground. I never had a problem with punctures!!
> >> >> Which,
> >> >> brings me to #2
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. Tyvek groundsheet (with homemade corner tabs for staking down).
> > Tyvex
> >> >> is
> >> >> heavier than polycro, but if you are a bull in a china shop, like me,
> >> >> then
> >> >> you want Tyvek. You can pull it out anywhere you take a break and sit
> > on
> >> >> it
> >> >> without worrying about being gentle. I used my tyvek for so many
> > things,
> >> >> including glissading. And, though my corner tabs went mostly unused,
> I
> >> >> was
> >> >> able to pull it out one rainy day in Oregon and stake the back down
> >> >> and
> >
> >> >> put
> >> >> the front part up on my poles for an improvised shelter. Also, if you
> >> >> are
> >> >> getting Tyvek, I found that the sheets that Six Moons Designs sell
> > don't
> >> >> hold onto leaves and brush like the sheets that you would get at home
> >> >> depot
> >> >> do.
> >> >>
> >> >> 3. Petzl e-lite. This thing is amazingly light and works great. Not
> >> >> the
> >> >> brightest, but probably one of the lightest. I was able to read at
> > night
> >> >> with it.
> >> >>
> >> >> 4. Swiss Army Classic Knife. I did not believe it when everyone on
> >> >> here
> >> >> was
> >> >> touting this knife as being "all you need," but, it really is!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> 5. Sunday Afternoons Adventurer hat. I did not use much sunblock, if
> >> >> any
> >> >> at all, on my face during my hike because of the exceptional head,
> >> >> face
> >
> >> >> and
> >> >> neck coverage of this hat (I did wear sunblock on the ice and snow
> >> >> though).
> >> >> I wasn't too impressed with the look of it when I first got it. It
> >> >> reminded
> >> >> me of something my Grandma would wear to garden. But, it did not
> >> >> matter
> >> >> that much in the end, as it is sooooooooo functional.
> >> >>
> >> >> 6. 2 Gatorade liter bottles and 2-2+liter platypus bladders.
> >> >>
> >> >> 7. Baby wipes!!! Worth the weight...again, for me!
> >> >>
> >> >> 8. And, of course, my Ukulele. This is optional though.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am sure you can't wait to tear this apart. But, in the end, it does
> > not
> >> >> matter because I am right, and you are wrong :)~
> >> >>
> >> >> Hope this may help some newbies make decisions...though, it will
> > probably
> >> >> just make things worse. Oh well!
> >> >>
> >> >> See y'all soon,
> >> >> Jukebox.
> >> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:57:12 -0700 (PDT)
> >> From: Susan Alcorn <backpack45 at yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: [pct-l] Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
> >> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> Message-ID: <83787.32307.qm at web180202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >>
> >> As one who has worried about every conceivable danger of the trail --
> mt.
> > lions, bears, snakes, river crossings, and so forth, my advice is to live
> > more in the moment. 99% of the things that I have worried about have not
> > happened. The only injuries that I have suffered on the PCT were from
> > falling
> >> on my face (with only my pride wounded) after tripping on a root and
> >> that wouldn't have happened if I had been looking where I was going.
> >> Oh, yeah, blisters before I learned what works for me to prevent them!
> >> Go prepared (bear canister, DEET, etc.) and armed with some common sense
> > (how to avoid rattlesnakes) and save your energy for hiking this
> > incredible
> > trail. Yes, unfortunate things happen, but then many more people suffer
> > injuries falling in their bathtub than they do falling on trails.
> >> Cheers,
> >> Susan "Backpack45" Alcorn
> >>
> >> Shepherd Canyon Books, Oakland, CA
> >> www.backpack45.com and backpack45.blogspot.com
> >> http://www.examiner.com/x-11423-SF-Hiking-Examiner
> >> Publishers of two award-winning books: Camino Chronicle: Walking to
> > Santiago and We're in the Mountains Not
> >> over the Hill: Tales and Tips from Seasoned Women Backpackers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:46:38 -0700
> >> From: "Brian McLaughlin" <brianmclaugh at comcast.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water filter question
> >> To: "dave ferber" <daveferbz at hotmail.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> >> Message-ID: <989E2167720E4C63BFE624508381D498 at BriansComputer>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
> >> reply-type=original
> >>
> >> I've experienced this before with replacement filters
> >> for the PUR/Katadyn Hiker.
> >>
> >> The filter in question has an activated charcoal core, inside a
> >> fiberglass matrix. The grey discharge is powdered charcoal
> >> from the surface of the core. It should go away after running
> >> about 2 or 3 liters of waters through it.
> >>
> >> No worries.
> >>
> >> Aimless
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "dave ferber" <daveferbz at hotmail.com>
> >> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:51 PM
> >> Subject: [pct-l] Water filter question
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hey all,
> >> So I just bought a replacement filter for a now extinct PuR
> water-filter.
> > It
> >> is exactly like the Katadyne Hiker pro. I actually bought the hiker pro
> >> cartridge. My question being; Has anyone ever experienced a grey soapy
> >> discharge when going to a new filter?
> >>
> >> Just baffled me.
> >>
> >> F.Y.I. I read this thread many times a day. You guys are hilarious!
> >>
> >> Thanks a bunch,
> >> Dave (class of 2010)
> >>
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> >>
> >> Message: 8
> >> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:02:51 -0700
> >> From: "Freiman, Paul" <pfreiman at ucsd.edu>
> >> Subject: [pct-l] new route north from Snoqualmie Pass.
> >> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <00948D2EFDA6F04AA18545D82E3CD879050D2E0EAB at MBX4.AD.UCSD.EDU>
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> >>
> >> I went over Gadget's route in 2008. It starts 3.6 miles out of Sno Pass
> > and connects back 36 miles later. Excellent route that takes in, from
> what
> > I
> > understand, the old PCT and old Cascade trail. They must have taken down
> > the
> > "abandoned trail" sign by now. I took it by accident, but I'm glad I did.
> > I
> > don't know what the burned out area looked like, but this was a treat.
> > Several really good camp sites too.
> >> Capt Bivy
> >>
> >>
> >> There is also a new route north from Snoqualmie Pass. It's called
> >> "Gadget's Route. Goes by Goldmeyer Hot Springs. **Gets you away from the
> >> burned out area. *
> >> *
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 9
> >> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:06:28 -0700
> >> From: Kris De Wachter <kangasauruskris at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gear List
> >> To: hetchhetchyman at aol.com
> >> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <j2z1884eebd1003311906v71d57d73o29eeb44f910574a4 at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> backpack ats 3 series , msr waterfilter , msr wishtlerlicht gasburner ,
> >> pan,0,9liter, 1.2 liter cookpot, 2 sporks ,35 cc mug gsi, knife spanish
> > hand
> >> made , 2 liter waterbag , botel 1liter, lowe alpine sleeping
> >> polyester,rei
> >> hafdometent 4 pounds ,2sets long onderwaer,goretex vest en high vent
> > pants,3
> >> pair socks,3 t shirts technofastdrystuf ,sweater, ski vest secondhand 19
> >> dollars ,hi-tech altitude 4 shoe's ,kompas ,map 1&2 ,up to 12 days food
> >> vegetarian dehy homemade , grondstarp orangereflect
> >> ,toothbrush,paste,viteminpils,33cc oil, gloves,hat,wistle,5 liter sink
> > ,soap
> >> ,pancakeflipper, first aidkit 1 1/2 pound, sunglasses,harmonika ,5 clif
> >> bars,nailclipper, 2 pair pants polyester,getors , crampons
> >> ,swimpants,suncream, total with 5 liter water 45 pounds.
> >>
> >> 2010/3/31 <hetchhetchyman at aol.com>
> >>
> >> > From: Porfirio Romero <pfromero8 at msn.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gear List
> >> > To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> >> > Message-ID: <COL122-W153AB23605A92BE285D9C9E31E0 at phx.gbl>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Wow,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This is great. I appreciate Jukebox for the Newbie concideration. Any
> > one
> >> > else
> >> > who could give a run down of total gear packed for the trail would be
> >> > greatly
> >> > appreciated.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Pack- Mountain Laurel Designs Exodus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Shelter- Gossamer Gear "The One" tent
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Bag- Western Mountaineering Ultra Light Down
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Under Layer- Smartwool Midweight longsleeve Top & Max Ride Polyester
> > light
> >> > weight bottoms.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Mid layer- Marmot Windshirt
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Outer Layer- Patagonia Light Down jacket (Yea, thats right.. I got
> this
> >> > jacket on sale, without sales tax cause it was in Oregon!)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Rain Gear- Marmot Precip Jacket(13 0z) and Red Ledge Rain Pants (8 oz)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Gloves- Seirus Thin Neoprene/spandex Got 'em on sale at Outdoor World!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Pants Wind/Bug Columbia Pro Fishing Gear Zip off legs
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hat Cold/Sleeping Columbia Nylon covered Fleece with really dorky
> > looking
> >> > ear warmer flaps. Bandana
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Garbage compactor Bag liner for backpack
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ground Sheet- Gossamer Gear Poly-Cro. I would never have believed a
> > piece
> >> > of clear plastic could hold up to thousands of miles of use.. But it's
> > true.
> >> > I feel foolish for starting the PCT with a heavy sportsmans blanket.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tent Stakes/Bear hang cord.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Kitchen- Stove- "Soup Can" Woodburning stove homemade. .9 liter cup
> >> > Lite
> > My
> >> > Fire Spork Bic lighter Lite My Fire Fire Steel (Like Flint and Steel)
> > Chunk
> >> > of brillo Pad
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Camera- Canon Powershot A590 For now..
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sleeping Pad- Modified Ridgerest. Brand spanking new.. and cut down to
> > body
> >> > shape just like the last one! lol!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Knife- Victornox Classic Banana Yellow because I lost my wonderful
> > "Forest"
> >> > Green one somewhere in the Washington Forest!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Compass and Toothbrush on lanyard. I kept losing my toothbrush in my
> > pack
> >> > until I tied it to my Compass. It's really wierd but the system works.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Headlamp- Petzl Zipka with Red Lens filter
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sunglasses- Whatever is on sale at Big 5 most likely.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Water Filter- Mountain Safety Research Pro Ceramic Element/pump
> action.
> >> > Cleaned by sanding with Brillo Pad and occasional boiling.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dental Floss container with sewing needle.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Socks 1 pair Kmart Mens Synthetic Dress socks over 1 pair Injinji Toe
> > socks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Water containers-Aqua Fina Bottles
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sub-Totals:
> >> > 12.9lbs
> >> > 0.00
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cheer-Iceaxe
> >> >
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