My dog didn't kill anything. You guys have mixed up two different people. Neither is the picture on the listserv of me. Try to at least follow the thread closely enough to get that right. My dog hikes on a flexi ( of course there's people who hate those too) and I've never been to Forester Pass, not even close. "Sweet Goat Mama" Carolyn Eddy www.goattracksmagazine.com