[pct-l] re; host / hustle houses

[Donna Saufley]

Yes, we're all on well and septic systems out here, and most of us
(depending on where we live) have to have our wells augmented with trucked
in water during the summer months.  We get water delivered about every two
to three days with our new larger water tank (we used to get it delivered
EVERY day during hiker season with our smaller tank.  I have no idea on
these stats other than "lots and lots!"  As to the dogs, they are:

Shady
Fozzie
Sammy
Buddy
Bitsy
Nally
Milo
Mikey

The dogs love hiker season as much as we do, except for Shady, the grouchy
one.  The cats are Daisy, Mazy Motorhead, and Mister E.  Horses are Rick &
Emmy.  

L-Rod


-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Bill Burge
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:08 PM
To: pct-l list
Subject: Re: [pct-l] re; host / hustle houses


In reference to Kari's comment on the water being trucked in and after  
having seen the "operation" in full swing...

It is truly AMAZING!  Have you ever written up the simple logistics/ 
numbers and processes?

How many packages you get/send; each season, largest day, etc
Heaviest package?
Are you on well water?  (and is that why the remaining water is  
trucked?)
How much water is trucked in how often?
Are you on city waste water or septic system?  (so many of us take  
flushing the toilet so casually!  ;-)
	My understanding is that much (all?) of the area is septic tanks.
How many loads of laundry do you do a day/season?
In your loaner shoes and clothes, what are the largest and smallest  
sizes you have?
	There was a guy there recently that needed size 14 shoes!
How many "Saufley Electric" t-shirts do you go through?
I'm sure I'm missing other "stats" that would be cool to know...
Lastly, what are the names of all the dogs?  Mikey is the only one I  
know, and that's only because Helen likes him sooooooo much!

It really is astounding.

BillB



On May 21, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Donna Saufley wrote:

> They only poured a cup of water on a couple of hikers . . . no big  
> balloon
> fight.  But thanks, you're so right about the water.
>
> And, BTW -- KARI ROCKS!!!
>
> L-Rod
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net 
> ]
> On Behalf Of kary lepre
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:22 AM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] re; host / hustle houses
>
> ATTN: HIKERS IN AGUA DULCE, CA. RESPECT is of the utmost... as a  
> resident of
> Agua Dulce, and Friend to the Saufleys (L-Rod) Donna/Jeff. I have been
> helping out here and there. To the point I heard there was some fun  
> with the
> water... balloon fight and garden hose war, fun as It may be, HOT  
> "no doubt"
> Water in the desert is a precious commodity! The majority of water  
> used at
> this camp is primarily hauled in by truck and is "costly". Please be
> respectful/mindful and don't waste. Thanks Kary the REI shuttle ride
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>   1. Re: Backpack Upgrade (Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com)
>   2. Re: Guidebooks. Help a brotha (sister?) out!
>      (Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com)
>   3. Re: Guidebooks. Help a brotha (sister?) out! (Bob Bankhead)
>   4. Re: Backpack Upgrade (CC Wishon)
>   5. Re: Rather funny.. :) (jeff.singewald at comcast.net)
>   6. Re: Rather funny.. :) (Paul Magnanti)
>   7. Re: Rather funny.. :) (Marge)
>   8. Re: Rather funny.. :) (Scott Bryce)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:42:47 -0700
> From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
> 	<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Backpack Upgrade
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> 	<1A0165A2-04E8-40C4-B72A-0B60044D0BE8 at santabarbarahikes.com>
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> On May 21, 2009, at 5:11 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>>
>> I currently own an REI morning star backpack (
>> http://www.epinions.com/pr-Backpacks-REI_Morning_Star_Backpack_55)
>> and was
>> looking to upgrade to a larger, more lightweight style pack. Is there
>> anywhere I can trade it in to get a discount. It's fairly new but
>> I've had
>> it for a couple of years now. I just don't want it sitting in my
>> garage
>> while I pay for a brand new pack. Any suggestions?
>>
>> -- 
>> Sasha Leidman
>> sleidman at gmail.com
>
> You could try craigslist.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:58:00 -0700
> From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
> 	<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Guidebooks. Help a brotha (sister?) out!
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> 	<5DD1F65D-A24C-4545-AE36-FF3FBB95D33D at santabarbarahikes.com>
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>
> On May 19, 2009, at 3:37 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>
>> Guidebooks. Help a brotha (sister?) out!
> Now that I think of it, last month when we did a section of the trail
> southbound I found the Wilderness Press guide book to be very
> difficult to follow. Some people, such as myself, actually like a
> verbose description of the trail and prefer it to something more
> terse. But the guide book is nearly impossible to follow backwards.
> So you could re-write the book with a southbound perspective. This
> might actually help more people choose to go south and maybe spread
> out the herd a little bit.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:15:37 -0700
> From: "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Guidebooks. Help a brotha (sister?) out!
> To: "Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com"
> 	<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>,	<pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <854375B4B29345318FBD2B926E1224CE at BOB>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> A south-bound version of the PCT Guidebook would be a nice project,  
> but I
> suspect it would have a rather tiny target market.
>
> The two most popular guides to the John Muir Trail both have route
> descriptions and mileages going both north- and south-bound in the  
> same
> volume, but we're only talking about 212 miles vs. 2600.
>
> "Guide to the John Muir Trail", by Thomas Winnett and Kathy Morey,
> Wilderness Press, 2004.
>
> "John Muir Trail", by Elizabeth Wenk and Kathy Morey, Wilderness  
> Press,
> 2007.
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
>  To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>  Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:58 AM
>  Subject: Re: [pct-l] Guidebooks. Help a brotha (sister?) out!
>
>
>
>  On May 19, 2009, at 3:37 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>
>  Now that I think of it, last month when we did a section of the trail
>  southbound I found the Wilderness Press guide book to be very
>  difficult to follow. Some people, such as myself, actually like a
>  verbose description of the trail and prefer it to something more
>  terse. But the guide book is nearly impossible to follow backwards.
>  So you could re-write the book with a southbound perspective. This
>  might actually help more people choose to go south and maybe spread
>  out the herd a little bit.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:27:07 -0700
> From: CC Wishon <ccwishon at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Backpack Upgrade
> To: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> 	<51466b970905210827g79c7801ele1f698bca4ac9c69 at mail.gmail.com>
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> Hi,
>
> I'm a first-time poster and also an REI employee. I just wanted to  
> let you
> know that if you're not a member and don't have the receipt for the
> backpack, REI will only be able to give you credit for the backpack's
> current worth (which decreases periodically -- if your pack is a  
> couple
> years old, chances are you'll be getting a much smaller refund than  
> what
> what you originally paid). Also, REI's guarantee is only good for  
> the life
> of the product, so unless it's in good condition (which it sounds like
> yours is), you could have some problems taking it back. It's  
> definitely
> worth a try, especially if you're a member, but you may end up  
> getting a
> better price for it online. Good luck!
>
> CC
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot  
> com <
> diane at santabarbarahikes.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On May 21, 2009, at 5:11 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>>>
>>> I currently own an REI morning star backpack (
>>> http://www.epinions.com/pr-Backpacks-REI_Morning_Star_Backpack_55)
>>> and was
>>> looking to upgrade to a larger, more lightweight style pack. Is  
>>> there
>>> anywhere I can trade it in to get a discount. It's fairly new but
>>> I've had
>>> it for a couple of years now. I just don't want it sitting in my
>>> garage
>>> while I pay for a brand new pack. Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sasha Leidman
>>> sleidman at gmail.com
>>
>> You could try craigslist.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:39:50 +0000 (UTC)
> From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :)
> To: AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Paul Magnanti
> 	<pmags at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID:
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>
>
> Asabat,
>
>
>
> I am thankful for the volunteers that provide the forum and  
> moderate, but
> with that said, the topic of guns is WAY more pertinent to the PCT  
> than many
> of the sexist threads and jokes that certain old timers on this list
> frequently submit.? There have been many requests to put a stop to  
> these
> topics but they seem to persist.
>
>
>
> Frankly, the topic that Ned started was far my interesting in my  
> opinion
> than all that other crap that Switchback and Reinhold submit.
>
>
>
>
>
> Elevator
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> To: "Paul Magnanti" <pmags at yahoo.com>, "PCT MailingList"
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:12:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :)
>
> ?
>> Ryan said:
>>> Okay, both sides have weighed in on the gun issue. ?Let's drop it
>>> there. ?-Ryan
>> And Kerry replied:
>>
>>
>>>> if you don't like lively comments on important current events, just
>> delete
>>>> those emails. Don't tell others to stop thinking and debating
> because it
>>>> gives YOU a headache.
>>
>> Well, since Ryan is gracious enough to run the PCT-L, CDT-L and AT-L
>> mailing lists, provide the servers they run on and any bandwidth
>> we use for FREE..I think it it his right to tell us to STFU about the
>> issue. :-)
>
>
> And since Brick moderates this particular list, he can do the same.
>
> Thank you Ryan and Brick for providing this wonderful forum and for
> keeping us on topic.
>
> AsABat
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:48:35 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :)
> To: jeff.singewald at comcast.net, AsABat <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <870665.49422.qm at web35202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> We are guests in the home.
>
> In this case the home is virtual.
>
> Just as I would not drink in a hostel that said "No drugs or  
> alcohol", I'll
> abide but what our hosts
> (Ryan and Brick) have said.
>
> Hopefully most of you will, too.
>
>
> ************************************************************
> The true harvest of my life is intangible.... a little stardust
> caught, a portion of the rainbow I have clutched
> --Thoreau
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:01:09 -0600
> From: "Marge" <marge at prothman.org>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :)
> To: <jeff.singewald at comcast.net>,	"'AsABat'" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> Cc: 'PCT MailingList' <pct-l at backcountry.net>,	'Paul Magnanti'
> 	<pmags at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <1A380B47372E419DBB5393C054296757 at usere18c4114b9>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I agree with Elevator and you all.....
> Actually I learned something about guns in the Parks etc that I did  
> not know
> before.
> Cheers,
> Marge (the old gal)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net 
> ]
> On Behalf Of jeff.singewald at comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:40 AM
> To: AsABat
> Cc: PCT MailingList; Paul Magnanti
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :)
>
>
>
> Asabat,
>
>
>
> I am thankful for the volunteers that provide the forum and  
> moderate, but
> with that said, the topic of guns is WAY more pertinent to the PCT  
> than many
> of the sexist threads and jokes that certain old timers on this list
> frequently submit.? There have been many requests to put a stop to  
> these
> topics but they seem to persist.
>
>
>
> Frankly, the topic that Ned started was far my interesting in my  
> opinion
> than all that other crap that Switchback and Reinhold submit.
>
>
>
>
>
> Elevator
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> To: "Paul Magnanti" <pmags at yahoo.com>, "PCT MailingList"
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:12:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :)
>
> ?
>> Ryan said:
>>> Okay, both sides have weighed in on the gun issue. ?Let's drop it
>>> there. ?-Ryan
>> And Kerry replied:
>>
>>
>>>> if you don't like lively comments on important current events, just
>> delete
>>>> those emails. Don't tell others to stop thinking and debating
> because it
>>>> gives YOU a headache.
>>
>> Well, since Ryan is gracious enough to run the PCT-L, CDT-L and AT-L
>> mailing lists, provide the servers they run on and any bandwidth we
>> use for FREE..I think it it his right to tell us to STFU about the
>> issue. :-)
>
>
> And since Brick moderates this particular list, he can do the same.
>
> Thank you Ryan and Brick for providing this wonderful forum and for
> keeping us on topic.
>
> AsABat
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:07:35 -0600
> From: Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rather funny.. :)
> To: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Cc: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
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> Paul Magnanti wrote:
>> We are guests in the home.
>>
>> In this case the home is virtual.
>>
>> Just as I would not drink in a hostel that said "No drugs or
>> alcohol", I'll abide but what our hosts (Ryan and Brick) have said.
>>
>> Hopefully most of you will, too.
>
>
> So controversial subjects like Constitutional rights are off topic,  
> but
> degrading jokes about sexually exploiting women are fine?
>
>
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