[pct-l] SAR comments on Censored epic

Josh 559josh at gmail.com
Mon Jun 8 16:02:21 CDT 2009


> 1. My lighters were worthless.  Not sure if it was that they were frozen
or if it just hurt more than my fingers could take to light them but
"flicking a bic"  was not getting me fire.  I carry matches as a backup and
they worked great.  Low tech has it's advanted.

Butane & Iso Butane are pretty useless below 30*F.
Propane is good to about 0*F.

One trick that will usually get UR lighter working is to put it in your
armpit a few mins b4 U need it...that'll heat the butane to body temp & it
should work fine...as far as UR fingers go...I guess U could put them in UR
pits too.  Or do like Al Bundy.  Lol

Josh


-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Mark Liechty
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:41 PM
To: raymond may
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] SAR comments on Censored epic

raymond may wrote:
> Also, tying knots when your fingers are numb is next to impossible.  
> For our tarp, I pre-tied taut-line hitch loops for all the guy lines, 
> so all I had to do was lay out the stakes and adjust the tension if
needed.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taut-line_hitch
>   
##########

I had a couple of significant lessons that had not been issues before Ned's
training.

1. My lighters were worthless.  Not sure if it was that they were frozen or
if it just hurt more than my fingers could take to light them but "flicking
a bic"  was not getting me fire.  I carry matches as a backup and they
worked great.  Low tech has it's advanted.

2. My water purification pump froze over.  Worked great for day one but then
the water froze in the pump and there was no way to get it apart.  
had there been a crisis i could have boiled water, put the pump in and then
losened it up but it was way way more work than it will ever be again now
that I know this is a real risk.

3. Seeing the others bury their tent lines 18" or more and taking a long
long time to dig them out was interesting.  I used sticks an burried 4-6" or
so and was in great shape.

4. Came away from that weekend with worse sunburn that ever in hundreds of
nights of camping.  Far worse than anything I have had in the desert or the
beach or anywhere else...


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